huge problem with x1950 pro agp.

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Alright, ive had this card for a while now (so no returning) and its had the problem ever since i got it. It runs games slower than my old 6800GS no matter what driver i use.

defective card?

maybe.

if it is, i cant really do anything about it cause who wants to buy a bad card? no one. thats who.

i cant just earn a couple hundred bucks so i kinda need to know if there is something wrong with this card. thanks for the help
 
My first thought is power. AGP systems tend to be older. There is a big difference in power draw between a 6800GS and an x1950pro. (AMD says you should have 30A on the 12V rail for the x1950 series, including the pro.)

Make sure your bios is properly setup for AGP. (AGP in 8x, fast writes off, etc.) If you want help, you need to give us the info that you have, such as FPS at X res.
 
Before I upgraded to my new system I was running an athlon64 3000+ and an agp radeon x1950gt (but overclocked to pro speeds). It ran circles around my roommates aging 6800 ultra with his 3Ghz P4. I ran it with catalyst 7.8s or 7.6's cant remember which. Also I had a decent antec 400W PSU....it had 17A per rail (2x rails) and ran 2 HDDs, dvd-rw drive, 3x80mm case fans and the 80mm cpu fan, along with CPU/motherboard/etc. You can also try the Omega drivers, as those are patched for better agp compatibility in most cases.

What PSU are you running? How many hard drives, case fans, etc? Seems like the card is not getting enough juice. Also check the cooling on it with rivatuner or ATI Tool (I used this for my x1950). Make sure it is not overheating and throttling....which to be honest I do not know if the x1950 had such a safety feature but always worth a check.
 
well i have an Antec 500W PSU and 1 sata drive, 1 DVD writer, 1 case fan. it had the same problem before i upgraded from my 420W PSU so i thought it was the PSU. we got the 500W and it still doesnt work. This power supply should work cause the rails or whatever have enough juice. i did the math. it was like, 17 and 17 or something so it shouldnt be the power. i thought it was Vista slowing it down so i installed XP and its the same thing.

i get about 4-5 and sometimes 10-15 fps on Call of duty 2 at 1280x1024, low graphics settings. Actually, it doesnt matter if i run it at maximum, or minimum, i get the same FPS.
 
Well you can try to re-install the drivers as a clean install. Uninstall then boot into safe mode and run driver cleaner. Is it possible to install this in a different computer and try it?
 
I'd run driver cleaner and also un-install any pre existing OC software. Install the latest Catalyst 8.46 AGP Hotfix driver ( without the CCC ) and install ATITool to check and make sure your core/mem clocks are correct.
 
Napalm=) said:
well i have an Antec 500W PSU and 1 sata drive, 1 DVD writer, 1 case fan. it had the same problem before i upgraded from my 420W PSU so i thought it was the PSU. we got the 500W and it still doesnt work. This power supply should work cause the rails or whatever have enough juice. i did the math. it was like, 17 and 17 or something so it shouldnt be the power. i thought it was Vista slowing it down so i installed XP and its the same thing.

i get about 4-5 and sometimes 10-15 fps on Call of duty 2 at 1280x1024, low graphics settings. Actually, it doesnt matter if i run it at maximum, or minimum, i get the same FPS.
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What motherboard are you using? You might be having a problem with the motherboard chip set (nForce2/3 maybe??) and the ATI card. Not only are you moving up in power requirements, but also moving between makes of cards. I've heard that nforce2/3 with ATI cards have issues.

I still have a system with a Sapphire X1950pro 512MB. I did have a problem initially with this card. First, I put it into a Tyan Tiger MPX board (dual 2600MP) with a 500 watt Antec. The system could take up to 5 or 10mins. to POST. I swapped out for a 650 watt Trio Antec and it ran much better and posted quicker. I was replacing a Geforce 6800. I definitely noticed better performance and could run benchmarks confirm it.

I now run the x1950pro in a Asus A8V Deluxe (939 board) with a 4400+ X2 and the same Antec Trio 650w ps. I have plain Catalyst 8.3 drivers on Windows XP. My system has zero stability issues and is slightly faster than my 4800+ system with a PCIe 8600gts.

A couple suggestions:
Get the ATI Tool (or similar) and watch the clocks on the GPU. The may still not be getting the power it wants, and is down clocking the card.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=725
http://downloads.guru3d.com/ATI-Tray-Tools-1.3.6.1042-download-733.html

Try the Omega drivers:
http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php
I've used these before and they are good.
 
Make sure you have the latest AGP miniport driver installed for your motherboard chipset.

Also what does the SmartGART tab in Catalyst Control Center show you? Post a screenshot of it perhaps?
 
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