Huawei is in Trouble

[kju1]

Now if that isnt state run media . Handcuffs and ankle chains sounds like friday night to me!

 

[Laowai]

She's been released on bail and will have to appear again Feb. 2nd.
Bail was about $7.4 million and she'll be under constant surveillance and be wearing a fashionable anklet provided by Canada.

Trump is already starting to waffle/waiver.

US President Donald Trump told Reuters on Tuesday evening that he might “intervene” in Meng’s case if it serves national interests, though he didn’t specify in what way. “If I think it’s good for what will be certainly the largest trade deal ever made — which is a very important thing — what’s good for national security — I would certainly intervene if I thought it was necessary,”

 

[Aireoth]

China has already arrested two Canadians in retaliation over this. I do hope that one day soon the rest of the world and its businesses decide this behavior is unacceptable and stops supporting their regime.

Rule of law is the best system humans have developed to date to avoid conflict, if China continues down their current path the only option at some point down the road is going to be war.

 

[Todd Walter]

None of those outlets you mentioned are state sponsored/controlled. Show some proof of their sponsorship. Oh and nice job contradicting yourself "RT isnt state controlled or owned but they do pay for it!". Priceless.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? The CBC is a crown corporation for fuck's sake; that's exactly state-sponsored.

 

[Uvaman2]

China has already arrested two Canadians in retaliation over this. I do hope that one day soon the rest of the world and its businesses decide this behavior is unacceptable and stops supporting their regime.

Rule of law is the best system humans have developed to date to avoid conflict, if China continues down their current path the only option at some point down the road is going to be war.

Yes, yes rule of law*
*( US rule of law includes selective enforcement, results may vary)

 

[Todd Walter]

Yes, yes rule of law*
*( US rule of law includes selective enforcement, results may vary)

It's actually going to be a bit of a shit-show since the laws the US are trying to apply don't exist in the same form in Canada, which is a requirement of the extradition process.

 

[Pieter3dnow]

China has already arrested two Canadians in retaliation over this. I do hope that one day soon the rest of the world and its businesses decide this behavior is unacceptable and stops supporting their regime.

Rule of law is the best system humans have developed to date to avoid conflict, if China continues down their current path the only option at some point down the road is going to be war.

War about what exactly ? You think that the worst China does is arresting people?

 

[Aireoth]

War about what exactly ? You think that the worst China does is arresting people?

Read the second paragraph again.

Yes, yes rule of law*
*( US rule of law includes selective enforcement, results may vary)

This is just dumb, yes we have some problems, but they aren't that bad. *Also I'm Canadian, our courts are a lot less political.

It is rule of law, the US applied for extradition, we as a partner have a duty to arrest and review the request, extradite if it is a legal request. I trust our judges to remain impartial in this matter, and if they are not, I have no doubt the media will be all over it like a fat kid on a donut.

 

[IdiotInCharge]

*Also I'm Canadian, our courts are a lot less political.

It's hard to think of US courts as less impartial; while I know that to be the case, blatant impartialities are rare. Much of the 'politicization' occuring recently comes from higher courts, with many of our assumed positions being based on case law more than direct legislation.

Of course, law isn't really law until it has been challenged in a court in the US, which seems to be a direct route to politicization.

 

[Aireoth]

It's hard to think of US courts as less impartial; while I know that to be the case, blatant impartialities are rare. Much of the 'politicization' occuring recently comes from higher courts, with many of our assumed positions being based on case law more than direct legislation.

Of course, law isn't really law until it has been challenged in a court in the US, which seems to be a direct route to politicization.

US Judges are elected (at least in part), Canadian Judges are not, that is where the impartiality comes in. Our judges are not beholden to the mood of the electorate, rather they are encouraged and focused on upholding our common law and constitution.

I know that the same generally applies in the US, but being elected changes thing.

 

[motomonkey]

I don't want to stop your groove here but a chinese executive get's arrested for selling chinese products to Iran which goes against US sanctions.

Also, the US really doesn't have much leverage on China unless they want to start WW III.

I agree that China is into some shady stuff but I'm pretty sure they're way too big to put back in the box again.

Why do you think Iran is shitting itself now? Why do you think we suddenly have an agreement to stop further trade sanctions with China? because China is much more fragile than they would like you to think, and The US still has massive influence over the International banking system. In an all out trade war, we would be hurt, perhaps badly, but China's economy would utterly collapse, most likely taking the communist party with it. They know it, we know it, and for all of President Trumps faults, he knows it and is willing to use the United States economic power as a weapon against China.

 

[Etherton]

 

[kju1]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? The CBC is a crown corporation for fuck's sake; that's exactly state-sponsored.

Nope I assumed it was a typo for CBS. But hey just ignore the rest of the statement about CNN etc.

 

[Laowai]

I think Chris (news guy) would be pleasantly surprised on the number of posts he's appeared in on the [H] recently.

 

[IdiotInCharge]

It's a good trump card for Trump- he can release her (one way or another) for further cooperation. Or not, and direct the DOJ to prosecute to the fullest.


In the end, I'd hope that China comes out of this understanding that they're better off being our partners in raising the standard of living on both sides of the Pacific than as adversaries, economic or otherwise.