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HT retries@stock clocks

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Sneevly

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Hey guys, I'm a folder for EOC, but I've been coming here for the wealth of 4p system information, and I have to say you guys have helped me out a lot.

Currently I'm getting too many HT retries to count, it's at LEAST 1 a second on two different nodes.

server2@server2:~$ sudo ./ht-retries.sh
L0S0 L1S0 L2S0 L3S0 L0S1 L1S1 L2S1 L3S1
Node 0 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 1 0000 0003 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 2 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 3 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 4 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 5 a162 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 6 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Node 7 0000 656f 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000

System - H8QGL-iF+ 4x6180HE STOCK Gskill 4x2GB DDR3 1333
CM Hyper 212+ HS-OCZ910W H8QGL2.518 Bios (I think that tells you something?)

Pretty much I did the entire tears bios guide, was only able to overclock 5% with accepted HT retries. I got bored and tried 225, ruined the WU and gave up on OC'ing. Did the reset function, flashed the bios BACK off super micro's latest available download. Their sites down so I can't provide the link.

At first I only had 8 cores after that. Resetting the BIOS to optimal defaults again fixed that, but now I have this problem at stock clocks. Any ideas? Also if I left any thing out please ask.

Also, what's a node, should I reset my CMOS, and could not resetting that "GRUB quiet spash clocksource=hpet" have any thing to do with this? Thank you

EDIT: 12.84 minutes per frame on unit 8101
 
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http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1038451755&postcount=2
Troubleshooting

Problem: HT retries, performance significantly below expectations, HT Link Sync errors
- Visually inspect gold pads on the bottom of each CPU and the socket pins
- Blow some compressed air on both
- See how light reflects off CPU pads; you'll definitely see a difference if there's TIM residue
- Use rubbing alcohol and cotton swabs/q-tips to clean the CPU pads - wet, then dry
- No matter what, DO NOT touch socket pins!
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Yep, ht-reties at stock frequency is almost always caused by dirty pads on the CPU.
 
Oh ok, I thought I would take a different approach since I didn't have any retries at first. Sounds good thanks guys
 
Hmmmm..... let me get this straight. No ht-retries on stock BIOS, install the ONG BIOS with too high of an OC, and then reinstall stock BIOS and still get ht-retries?

If that is the case, that makes zero sense right off hand.
 
It doesn't make too much sense, agreed. Though other symptoms (cores "disappearing") warrant taking a look at mechanical bits I think.
 
After a thorough inspection of all pins and CPU pads, I was not able to find any problems. I still cleaned all of the pads any way. The HT retries are still through the roof, which you can use my first post as a reference. I have a feeling what I've read in the Turion Power Control doesn't seem right. This is a lot of information, I apologise. But if any of you have the time and are familiar with how this SHOULD look, please let me know. I have 4x6180 processors, these commands were input while folding.

EDIT: I'll also mention that my motherboard squeals like a pig. It has done this with two different power supplies, two different processors (4x6128's) and two different power sources. Of course the squealing really comes out under full load.

Uneven connected nodes and Frequencies.
Hypertransport Status:
Node 0 Link 0 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 0 Link 0 Sublink 1 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 0 Link 1 Sublink 0 Bits=16 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 0 Link 2 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 0 Link 3 Sublink 0 Bits=16 Coh=0 SpeedReg=14 (2600MHz)

Node 1 Link 0 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 1 Link 0 Sublink 1 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 1 Link 1 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 1 Link 2 Sublink 0 Bits=16 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 1 Link 3 Sublink 0 not connected

Node 2 Link 0 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 2 Link 0 Sublink 1 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 2 Link 1 Sublink 0 Bits=16 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 2 Link 2 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 2 Link 3 Sublink 0 not connected

Node 3 Link 0 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 3 Link 0 Sublink 1 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 3 Link 1 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 3 Link 2 Sublink 0 Bits=16 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 3 Link 3 Sublink 0 not connected

Node 4 Link 0 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 4 Link 0 Sublink 1 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 4 Link 1 Sublink 0 Bits=16 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 4 Link 2 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 4 Link 3 Sublink 0 not connected

Node 5 Link 0 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 5 Link 0 Sublink 1 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 5 Link 1 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 5 Link 2 Sublink 0 Bits=16 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 5 Link 3 Sublink 0 not connected

Node 6 Link 0 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 6 Link 0 Sublink 1 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 6 Link 1 Sublink 0 Bits=16 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 6 Link 2 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 6 Link 3 Sublink 0 not connected

Node 7 Link 0 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 7 Link 0 Sublink 1 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 7 Link 1 Sublink 0 Bits=8 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 7 Link 2 Sublink 0 Bits=16 Coh=1 SpeedReg=19 (3200MHz)
Node 7 Link 3 Sublink 0 not connected
Click to expand...

I don't know what this is about.
server2@server2:~$ sudo tpc -CM
Turion Power States Optimization and Control - by blackshard - v0.43

Monitoring...
Ts:30200 - c0:ps0 - c1:ps0 - c2:ps0 - c3:ps0 - c4:ps0 - c5:ps0 - Tctl: 47
ps0 ps1 ps2 ps3 ps4

Core0: 301 0 0 0 0
Core1: 301 0 0 0 0
Core2: 4327877 0 4 0 682754308
Core3: 1275084809 1521063912 32767 19095568 0
Core4: 302 0 1521063912 32767 1
Core5: 301 1 0 1521063920 32767
Click to expand...

Uneven Max Voltages
--- Node 0:
Processor Maximum PState: 4
Processor Startup PState: 4
Processor Maximum Operating Frequency: 2500 MHz

Minimum allowed VID: 123 (0.013v) - Maximum allowed VID 32 (1.150v)
Processor AltVID: 58 (0.825v)

--- Node 1:
Processor Maximum PState: 4
Processor Startup PState: 4
Processor Maximum Operating Frequency: 2500 MHz

Minimum allowed VID: 123 (0.013v) - Maximum allowed VID 32 (1.150v)
Processor AltVID: 58 (0.825v)

--- Node 2:
Processor Maximum PState: 4
Processor Startup PState: 4
Processor Maximum Operating Frequency: 2500 MHz

Minimum allowed VID: 123 (0.013v) - Maximum allowed VID 31 (1.163v)
Processor AltVID: 58 (0.825v)

--- Node 3:
Processor Maximum PState: 4
Processor Startup PState: 4
Processor Maximum Operating Frequency: 2500 MHz

Minimum allowed VID: 123 (0.013v) - Maximum allowed VID 31 (1.163v)
Processor AltVID: 58 (0.825v)

--- Node 4:
Processor Maximum PState: 4
Processor Startup PState: 4
Processor Maximum Operating Frequency: 2500 MHz

Minimum allowed VID: 123 (0.013v) - Maximum allowed VID 30 (1.175v)
Processor AltVID: 58 (0.825v)

--- Node 5:
Processor Maximum PState: 4
Processor Startup PState: 4
Processor Maximum Operating Frequency: 2500 MHz

Minimum allowed VID: 123 (0.013v) - Maximum allowed VID 30 (1.175v)
Processor AltVID: 58 (0.825v)

--- Node 6:
Processor Maximum PState: 4
Processor Startup PState: 4
Processor Maximum Operating Frequency: 2500 MHz

Minimum allowed VID: 123 (0.013v) - Maximum allowed VID 30 (1.175v)
Processor AltVID: 58 (0.825v)

--- Node 7:
Processor Maximum PState: 4
Processor Startup PState: 4
Processor Maximum Operating Frequency: 2500 MHz

Minimum allowed VID: 123 (0.013v) - Maximum allowed VID 30 (1.175v)
Processor AltVID: 58 (0.825v)
Click to expand...
 
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Sounds like something is up with the MB. It should not squeal at all. That is an indicator that something is wrong. Since you get this to happen with different CPUs and power supplies, I would definitely say it is the MB. Do the ht-retries and squeal happen while idle or just under load?
 
No HT tries @ idle, really only at full load. I'm not sure if web browsing sets those off, haven't checked lol. The squealing is there at idle, but quiet. It can still be heard from a couple feet away. Under load it's about 10x louder. I should probably look into an RMA lol
 
I just thought I'd mention this for other peoples reference. The board that Super Micro gave me for the RMA fixed all of the problems. No more screeching, and namely no more HT retries. I'm getting about 1 every minute or so now. Thanks for all of your help.
 
Excellent, glad to hear it. Have you gotten it all set up now?
 
Though 1 every minute is much better, it is still not ideal. Switching around weaker CPUs to sockets with higher power delivery can zero out the ht-retries all together.
 
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