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I am writing this to see if there is anyone out there that is sharing a similar dissatisfaction with the enjoyment that is received from gaming as of late. First, let me just give you a brief background regarding my gaming experience. I started at a rather young age, (12 or so?) playing my first true PC game. The name of this game was "Total Annihilation". (Yes I played Duke Nukem, etc. prior to that, but I am not counting those) After playing this for awhile, I quickly moved on to Q2 (specifically CTF) and played this avidly for about 2 years. Over the course of this time I had an absolute blast playing this game.

Next, I moved on to a game we all know as Everquest. It was highly addictive. To date, out of any game I've played, this game probably gave me the most satisfaction out of any game I've played. I had also discovered Half-Life and played that quite a bit. After playing this for quite a long time, I eventually joined the military at the age of 18. After that, my days of playing Everquest were rather sparse. After 2 years or so in the service, I did get to play again for a bit. Everything was great. It was just like "old times" when I used to play. This lasted for a little bit, then due to deployments I was forced to move on again, this time for good.

Fast forward a bit, I've been out of the military going on 3 years. I live a pretty average life.( As in no obsessive gaming) Through out this time, I've played several games. I had a very long stint in CS:S, did the whole league ordeal, etc. Played WoW of course. I was quite addicted for a few months. Leveled my character all the way to 60, did the whole guild thing. As of late, I also became pretty interested in TF2, but that only lasted for about 2 months. I've purchased BF2142,UT3, LOTRO, EQ2, and just a few days ago CoD4. UT3, and EQ2 did not last more then a day or two on my comp. The other games are seemingly decent. They held my attention for quite some time, but it still seems like they are missing something.

What I am getting at folks - all of the games that I played when I was much younger, (EQ, HL1, TFC, Q2CTF, CS Beta, Tribes- I almost forgot Tribes, how could I?) I have very very vivid nostalgic memories about these great times. The times I had playing these games were great. It almost seems like there was nothing greater then these times, sitting at home interacting with people online, having a blast trying to win at whatever game it was. Now, it seems like there are good games out, some that I fancy very much, but they do not have that "nostalgia factor" As in a year or two from now, I won't be sitting in the position I am in now, thinking about how great of a time I had playing this game or that game.

I always hear people say "they were the good old days". I wonder if I am a victim of this, or perhaps I am just growing out of a favorite childhood pastime? Or maybe, the games out right now aren't groundbreaking enough to make me feel as so. I really am at a lost as to what it is. So, I was wondering if any of you feel the same? Or, if at one time, have felt the same and have found something to remedy that sense of void. I have a feeling there are quite a few of us. I always see people anticipating new games. Maybe they are looking for that new game that is good enough to be nostalgia worthy?

keefer
 
I think you're going through what I am, getting sick of gaming. The only PC game that holds my interest is WoW. Despite the new games that come out on my Xbox360 or PC, I can't find enjoyment in any of them.

After the PS1, I stopped gaming for the most part. I grew out of it to be honest. I'm really surprised I like WoW so much and the reason for it is that I have developed a friendship with a lot of the guys I've played with for the past three years.
 
WoW is about the only game worth playing right now, sure other good games come and go but they give you about 20 hours of gameplay each on average, WoW has given me thousands of hours of enjoyment.

When the newest fad game is over and has zero replayability, I always go back to WoW.
 
I feel you man. I used to play EQ and Tribes. Those two games I have the EXACT same thoughts on. Nothing gaming wise compares. I still get some enjoyment out of StarCraft and Diablo 2. Everything else, I play for a few days and uninstall.

I did the same thing with WoW as well. Played for the first 3 months of the game's release, powered my way to 60, and got bored.

I think it has to do with becoming busy with other things in life. Work, relationships, other hobbies. I can't stand to sit in my room and play games for more than an hour at a time now, it just feels too unproductive/antisocial. Definitely not knocking people who play for more than that, however.
 
MrFace said:
I think you're going through what I am, getting sick of gaming. The only PC game that holds my interest is WoW. Despite the new games that come out on my Xbox360 or PC, I can't find enjoyment in any of them.

After the PS1, I stopped gaming for the most part. I grew out of it to be honest. I'm really surprised I like WoW so much and the reason for it is that I have developed a friendship with a lot of the guys I've played with for the past three years.
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I'm pretty much in the same boat. I've played WoW for over two years now . My 360 has become a DVD player. the last game i got for it was COD3...or Gears of War, i forget which came out first. Gaming just doesn't do it for me anymore.
 
I just thought i'd mention how cool it is that Total Annihilation was your first PC game. That game is AWSOME, and I have very fond memories of it too.

If you want something similar, just updated with today's technology, I suggest you check out the Supreme Commander games. The expansion came out recently and it's alot of fun (especially the multiplayer).
 
It seems to me that "new" ideas are few and far between. Most innovations are superficial. I played WoW for a year or so before I quit. Honestly I think WoW is popular because the nostalgia. The game art had a great feel. However eventually the fact that its an mmorpg just like all the rest with grinding and raids etc sets in. I find myself drawn to games that remind me of the way it used to be. I rarely reinstall OLD games due to incompatibility issues or I just don't want to mar the memory. Sometimes games do not age well. However I still have Ghost Recon 1 and Morrowind installed on my old machine. My new machine has Crysis and Oblivion installed. I love Oblivion.
 
I too know just what your talkin about. I believe the reason is simply.....It was NEW. Back in the day (im talkin about 10+ years ago), these MMO's and FPS's were relatively new. Doom, Duke Nukem etc. They were brand new genre's basically.

We went from playing simple single player games, such as Kings Quest that had written text along the bottom of the screen telling you what to do and then JUMPED into 16bit games such as Doom and Duke Nukem. They were NEW, not done before and were a fresh NEW way of playing your game. And then, slowly, the ability to talk with friends over stuff such as Battlecom etc, was also relatively new. Not having to stop what your doing so you can type a message was badass.

Graphics was still in its infancy back then. I dont even think AA existed (I may be wrong) but for the most part, everything was blocky and grainy, BUT, WE DIDNT CARE!!!! The game play, back then, was of utmost importance and graphics took a back seat. The only reason why people overclocked back then, was simply to reduce LAG, not to get better graphics.

I used to play Mech4 back when it first came out. People in the clan I was in, were constantly trying to improve the FPS because LAG literally would get you killed or, at very least, would allow you to get shot and never know where it came from, which in turn, would eventually lead to a death.

As technology got more advanced, LAG ended up taking the backseat and Graphics became the important principle people looked at before buying a game.

I remember picking up a game at the store, turning it over and reading the back of the box. If the game sounded cool, I usually bought it, rarely looking at the actual graphics. And then, it flipped and I started turning boxes around and if the graphics looked like shit, the box went back on the shelf, never having even read the box.

So, what Im getting at is.....back in the day, we played a game because the game itself was neat and cool.....then one day, I dunno when, that changed and our perception of gaming changed along with it.

The gaming industry saw this too and MANY games were pushed out the door with little thought given to gameplay and more time and effort went into making it look pretty.

Only recently (id say the past year or so) have developers gone back to gameplay aspects of creating a game. Which means all the game inbetween these times, we as the consumer of these games werent impressed with the gameplay at all.

We were all looking for that FEELING in a game that Doom and Duke gave us, but it just wasnt there....literally.

Another example of this is Asherons Call.

It was my FIRST MMO and I went to it from playing Mech4. 99% of all my best memories of playing an MMO, come from this game. Graphics were shitty, for the most part....I mean, compared to todays games, but the gameplay was BADASS. It was the first game I ever saw that had actual day and night in the game.

Then came Asherons Call 2. This game BLEW CHUNKS!!!! Sure, it was prettier, but the gameplay itself was totally dumbed down and was the precursor to ALL the garbage that came out after it (lookin at you WoW). In a sense, these 2 games, although sharing the same name, were completely different.

These days, what do you have?
Youve got a game where you get a gun (or many guns) and you run around and shoot things. Yawnnnn. And then another game comes out. Different graphically, same gameplay. And to this day, it has not changed. You play CS:S, you play COD...whats different other than the graphics? Nothing. And THAT is why you feel the way you do.

I currently play TF2. Its another shoot'em up game. I love this game and play it a LOT since it came out. I have about 55 hours clocked in using the Heavy alone. What makes this game, for me, stand out from other games? I honestly have no idea but I can say, for a shoot'em up game, its damn fun....cant put my finger on the reason why exactly, maybe its because its basic and simple and you dont have to burn the midnight oil in order to learn how to play it??? I dunno.....BUT, even though I like playing this game, its still the same ol same ol "shoot the other dude" type game and nothing is new about it really.

If I had the time, I would definately go back to Asherons Call. Last I saw, it was still available and people are still playing it.....LOTS of people are still playing it.

Heh, you never forget your FIRST time....hehe.
 
I think part of the problem now is that we have too many games to play. Back in the day, I'd only get 1 or 2 games a year, and I'd really try to savor them as much as possible. Now, I buy at least 2 games a month, so I really don't get to experience each one much before I want to move on to the next game.
 
I tend to check the graphics now too. I guess my reasoning is if the developers didn't put in the time to make the game look decent, they probably didn't take the time to make the game anything special either. Which is flawed logic.
 
I almost forgot. The whole reason I named the topic of this thread with "WoW" in it was because I was contemplating playing WoW once more, because it was the only somewhat recent game that gave me that nostalgia feeling. So last night I installed it, and activated a trial account. I am going to try to give it a go again. I am sure much has changed since I last played. Lets hope the actual experience lives up to my thoughts of what it will be like. I doubt it, but it is worth a shot. I was thinking, wouldn't it be a great idea if a game company was created, with the sole purpose to buy licenses of old games, and re-release them with an updated engine and graphics, and also fix some minor kinks in the game? When I say fix, I don't mean change, just maybe small issues. I think it would be one hell of an idea, and personally, I think they would make a pretty good deal of money doing so. I could see it now... Tribes: Reborn!
 
I'm in the same boat as you are now as well. I remember playing games like Duke Nukem, Total Anihillation (which was sweet), Original CS, etc. Once I got in college, and especially now that I'm out of college. It just doesn't have the same feel for me anymore. I have a 360 with a bunch of new games just sitting there (Mass Effect anyone?) my PC is the same, I'll play CS:S for a bit, I bought UT3 for a LAN that we'll be doing, but for the most part I'm just not that into it anymore.

I think part of it for me was when I was younger keeping up with the hardware and being super nerdy and tweaking and O/Cing, etc which I did constantly. Now that I've got a job, loans, etc and I work in IT I find that my lack of money combined with me constantly fixing and tweaking things at work lessens my enjoyment of doing it personally. I just want my stuff to work, who cares if it isn't the latest and fastest? Like people have said before, perhaps this is just the cost of growing up a bit?

As far as WoW goes, I wouldn't do it, you'll end up playing for a few months, then realize why you quit in the first place (for me: it was so damn repetitive) and then you're just out that time and money.

I must say, this has been an interesting thread to read, one of the more interesting ones I've come across in quite some time actually.
 
funny thing.

i actually stopped playing the new games. and actually went back to playing some old games.

ive played WoW sinec its release for about a year and a half or so. then stop. after like 6 months, played 2 months , stopped.
last month, my friend gave me a resurrect invite ( free 10 day for existing accts ) , i played 1 day. then stopped

in the sleu of things, i reinstalled diablo2... wow. its like seriously good mojo even tho its a couple year old game. shitty GFX, ninja looters. but still. it was more fun the WoW

now i play on and off, with those free MMO games from like china or korea.
doesnt hurt my pocket. and even tho most free MMO are pure grind games.

itll fill my need to game for like a hour. and ill be set for a couple of days.


so basically. i have a quad core. 88gtx sli. raptor raid. 4gb ram. dual loop watercooled rig. for web browsing.. nice..
and music. hooked up via ESI Juli@ to PPA2 amp on sennheiser 650s.. thats it. lol


if you want to play the current MMO im playing. dream of mirror online. i think i can send invites, xD maybe i get some freebies in game. PM me
 
I'm in the same boat as you fellows. My first nostalgia inspiring games were Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft, and Half Life 1 with counter-strike. Since then I have moved on and bought 75% of every big name title that has been released, but nothing has me hooked anymore. Hellgate London was the nail in the coffin to confirm my suspicions that I am starting to outgrow video games. Team Fortress 2 was fun and okay, but I really just don't have the time to play it for hours on end like I used to when I was younger. I go to class from 9am til 2pm and then I go to work at 4pm at UPS where I am a supervisor and I leave work around 10pm.

One thing I have noticed is that my addiction to video games has started to transfer into investing. For whatever reason, I have really been enjoying learning about different investing methods and so on yada yada.

As for going back to WoW....I don't think it is worth it. You have to remember that at the end of the day you are devoting hours of your life into something that is not real. When you leave your house/apartment and go to your local pub or what-have-you, does anything you did in WoW matter? That is just the way I look at it now. The games were, and still are, fun, but I think it is just time to start moving on.
 
I've been feeling the same way as well. After finally getting out of WoW's two year hold on me I've been enjoying TF2 and CoD4 as well as a Assasins Creed and DiRT on the PS3. However, I don't play near as long as I used to. Even when my wife gives me the time to play I'll sometimes find myself just going back out in the living room and watching TV or playing with my daughter.

It's strange because I feel somewhat guilty playing games too long but I feel like I'm missing something if I don't play.
 
Tzzird said:
So this is what my not-too-distant future will look like huh?
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She's actually pretty good about letting me have time to play. It's not like I have to ask but she will start giving me dirty looks if I've been playing for more than a couple hours.

When I played WoW I would practically run to the computer if she left the house for any length of time because that was my time to play uninterupted. I don't do that now since I don't feel like I have to devote every free minute to playing my current games.
 
Raven01 said:
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She's actually pretty good about letting me have time to play. It's not like I have to ask but she will start giving me dirty looks if I've been playing for more than a couple hours.

When I played WoW I would practically run to the computer if she left the house for any length of time because that was my time to play uninterupted. I don't do that now since I don't feel like I have to devote every free minute to playing my current games.
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I don't get dirty looks from my fiancee when I game unless I'm supposed to be doing something I'm not. She'll even play some guitar hero with me from time to time. She bought me a 360 for me last xmas and a ps3 this xmas and the system in my sig last summer for my birthday. I'm lucky that she's not only understsanding about my hobbies, but that she's willing to support them to a certain extent. :)

Running to your computer as soon as she leaves the house... that sounds like some addiction right there, lol.
 
Raven01 said:
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She's actually pretty good about letting me have time to play. It's not like I have to ask but she will start giving me dirty looks if I've been playing for more than a couple hours.

When I played WoW I would practically run to the computer if she left the house for any length of time because that was my time to play uninterupted. I don't do that now since I don't feel like I have to devote every free minute to playing my current games.
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Tough to get into a raid on such a limited schedule. My wife is usually pretty good about letting me game for an hour so in the evening. But for WoW you used to need like 4+ if you wanted the end game gear.
 
Chombo said:
Tough to get into a raid on such a limited schedule. My wife is usually pretty good about letting me game for an hour so in the evening. But for WoW you used to need like 4+ if you wanted the end game gear.
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Thats part of the reason I quit. Even when my wife told me I could have time to play she would bug me for something stupid like getting her some water. It got to the point I quit doing anything besides PvP which eventually led to me quitting.
 
Tzzird said:
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Running to your computer as soon as she leaves the house... that sounds like some addiction right there, lol.
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Yes it was very much an addiction. I always thought how stupid those peope were that I read about that had addictions to gaming until I realized I was one of them, not so funny then. It can really affect your relationships with other people and it indirectly effected my work performance. I spent more time looking at WoW websites then doing my job which is helpdesk support.
 
Raven01 said:
Thats part of the reason I quit. Even when my wife told me I could have time to play she would bug me for something stupid like getting her some water. It got to the point I quit doing anything besides PvP which eventually led to me quitting.
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Amen. Basically I got a full set of Tier 0, which was the best I could do without going to Molten Core (if that gives you a hint about how long ago I quit.) I found all I was doing was grinding for cash and leveling alts. Which in turn would eventually find me in the same place with alts. PvP started to suck when I was constantly outgeared.
 
I think SAW pretty much hit it right on the nose, it was NEW then and now it just seems like a rehashed version of last months game.

I also think that the other part of it was that we did not necessarily have money to do the "other" things that we wanted to do, as we have that ability now. So gaming was the major thing we did, sounds like most of those games were before you had a car/were able to drive and so it was your way of you and your buddies getting together to play around.

Now, everyone else has different agendas. We work all day in front of a computer (well a lot of us do here atleast) so the last thing we want to do with our spare time is spend it in front of something that we associate with "work" (that dreaded 4 letter word). We now have the ability to pay to go see our favorite band, pick up that extra lense for our photography addiction or take the significant other out to a nice dinner and a movie. The once fun times of chatting with your buddies over the internet while playing Starcraft on dial-up have been surpassed by going to the bar with those same buddies to "shoot the shit" and watch the game.

All-in-all I dont believe it is that the games have necessarily gotten worse, try asking this generation about thier gaming memories and they will say the same thing about games that were just "meh" to us, but that our priorities and attention have moved along to other things.

So cherish those memories and try to relive them when you can by remembering and discussing with the friends envolved over a beer. Hell, my buddies that I play SC with, we still talk about when we played SC for every waking hour we could for an entire week. The culmination being when I was walking across campus to another class and saw a leaf skitter in front of me, stopping me dead in my tracks with a bit of fright as the first thing through my mind was "OH SHIT UH LURKER!"

Ah the good ole' days.
 
I think a lot of it has to to do with how easily available games have become. When I was younger, the most exciting part of the month would be when I got my hands on a new game. Whether my parents rented a nes game, or if I was over at a friends house, or that time my brother came home with a pirated game spanned across multiple floppy disks. Those were the days. Any game was exciting, because you rarely had a chance to try something new. Anytime a pcgamer magazine showed up with demos that turned into an all day event. I had to try every demo on that disc and play it inside out.

Things have changed though. Everyone has access to the internet. You want a game? There are a million free games on the net, and demos for all the latest and greatest. I don't have anything to get excited about. If an interesting game is coming along, I've read about it for months/years, seen trailers of gameplay, and know every detail of that game before it's ever released. Back in the day I'd be carrying on my life, and out of the blue I'm at a friends house and they have the coolest game in the world. I never knew what to expect, so every game was a fun surprise.

Seriously, imagine you visited a friend today and he was playing this game called 'Crysis' which you've never heard of in your life. I'd be addicted to the game in seconds, amazed with all the little details etc. But wait, back to reality. A game like this doesn't get released without being hyped all year. Instead, I loaded up the Crysis demo, and everything was already old news. I already knew I could shoot down trees before shooting them. I didn't have to drive my jeep into a building because I already knew how the destructible environments acted. I knew if I shot a flammable barrel it would distract the enemies. I knew there was a turtle somewhere on the beach. I knew everything before I sat down. Meh, I got bored in an hour and forgot about the game.
 
Well just as I suspected, there seems to be a good deal of us that share the same dissatisfaction. To tell you the truth, at this point in my life, the thought and build up to something always usually ends up being larger then the actual activity itself. Whether it be a game, or something else. For instance, for some odd reason I am greatly looking forward to summer vacation this year. It is still roughly 7 months until this happens, but, until that point I will be pretty much fantasizing about how much of a great time I am going to have. When its all said and done, it probably will not be as great as I had thought. (Not to say it won't be a good time)

With that being said, I think the games with a "nostalgia factor" will be those new games that are quite spontaneous, that seem to come out of no where, and have a new unique way of achieving whatever goal is the target of the game. If you think about it, every game that we all seem to have great memories of - I can't really say I recall discovering it by a PR release prior to discovering the game, or advertising, etc. Tribes, I sort of just stumbled onto one day. Counter-Strike, I downloaded it @ Beta 3 as a mod to CS. Q2 I discovered by word of mouth, after playing Total Annihilation with someone I had met over the net. I believe Everquest was the same. Even Total Annihilation, I purchased that after reading an article in the tech section of the newspaper. Now a days, it seems there is so much build up to games, it sort of leaves no room for negative expectations. So if you are the slightest bit let down, it is somewhat magnified.

As for those of you whom say life is too consuming, I must ask you this: If you could find a new game that was exhilarating as some past titles like Tribes, etc, would you want to find yourself immersed in the game for the sake of enjoyment? I know I wouldn't mind discovering a great game, and becoming "somewhat" addicted, at least for a few months. To tell you the truth, that is sort of what I am looking for. Funny, and sad to say I guess, but true nonetheless.
 
Totally.....to all who replied about the "if the wife lets me" comment....I am SOO on board with that group its not funny.

Non-gamers (my wife) just do NOT understand those of us who GAME. I get bitched at constantly for wanting to play a game after a hard, LONG days work. For some reason, she wants undivided attention...I keep telling her, "hey, stop being bitchy all the time about every damn thing and maybe I will WANT to spend more time with you than a game".

Before anyone flames me for wanting to play a game instead of spend time with my wife, come on over and spend a day in my shoes before you tell me what I should or shouldnt do with my time :)......You wont only want to play more games, but you will start smoking and drinking too......And they wonder why we die first......mehh
 
SAW said:
Totally.....to all who replied about the "if the wife lets me" comment....I am SOO on board with that group its not funny.

Non-gamers (my wife) just do NOT understand those of us who GAME. I get bitched at constantly for wanting to play a game after a hard, LONG days work. For some reason, she wants undivided attention...I keep telling her, "hey, stop being bitchy all the time about every damn thing and maybe I will WANT to spend more time with you than a game".

Before anyone flames me for wanting to play a game instead of spend time with my wife, come on over and spend a day in my shoes before you tell me what I should or shouldnt do with my time :)......You wont only want to play more games, but you will start smoking and drinking too......And they wonder why we die first......mehh
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That's EXACTLY how I feel man...

You know the funny thing about it though? Before we were married my wife was one of those asian gamers (she's Korean) you hear about spending hours and hours in an internet cafe playing lineage 2 and only eatting ramen. I thought "hell ya this is the girl for me" then she does a 180 on me after marriage. Yay......
 
Thought I would throw in my two cents to this thread, as I found it an interesting read.

I think the problem is that you are growing out of your childhood hobbies. I myself have noticed the exact same problem. My first fond memories were of Wolfenstein 3D and Doom. From there I moved onto Quake, and that was my obsession for about 8 years of my life. I played the original Quake deathmatch, then when 3Wave CTF came out I was all over that, as well as the original Team Fortress, which became my favorite past time for the majority of my gaming time. I started playing TF in about 8th or 9th grade, and I played that game all the way until about 2 years ago. Joined many clans, pubbed until the wee hours of the morning and enjoyed every minute of it.

Now, on the other hand, I find myself having a very difficult time playing PC games. They do not hold my interest as they used to, and the closest thing was WoW. Gameplay is all the same in most games, there is very little that is new and refreshing that lasts for a good amount of time. I often times asked myself the same question: "Why am I not enjoying PC games as much?" and every time it comes down to one answer: I am getting older and growing up. Since the TF days, I have moved out with my wife, been married for 4 years now, worked full time jobs while attending college full time, and still tried to play the occasional PC game. It just wasn't enjoyable anymore.

I also spend the majority of my professional life in front of a PC now, doing support for an E-Mail software management company. Spending 8 or 9 hours in front of a monitor at work, then going to school and staring at another monitor for 4 or 5 hours, it makes it VERY hard to get the motivation to want to actually sit in front of another monitor and use a keyboard and mouse. I just got a 360, so I am starting to play that a little more, but I still lose interest in it as well. I am starting to look at other hobbies now as well... something that can retain my interest for more than a few hours. I know that people say you don't have to sit at a desk to enjoy PC gaming, but I don't feel like moving my PC over to my big screen HDTV to hook it up every day, having to hook up the keyboard / mouse, etc. What a pain.

Speaking of pain, I've noticed that since I've gotten older, sitting at a desk for extended periods of time can be excruciating. I'll sit on my PC and play an FPS, like FEAR, which I played the other night. After about 2 hours, my neck and shoulders ache, my back is sore and my wrist is flinchy. My eyes are dried out and red, and my head aches half the times that I play. The 360 isn't quite as bad, but it is a much more comfortable, natural environment.

Also, I'm totally on board the wife train as well. My wife is a very casual gamer and enjoys console and flash based PC games alike, but whenever I play a serious game she just rolls her eyes. My priorities are straight though, as I would much rather spend time with her than any game. I realize that we like to escape from our daily lives into the world of gaming, but give me a break. It is meant to be a hobby, and nothing more. Forget the MLG professional gaming garbage that you see. Even after 4 years I will still turn off any video game to play with my wife. The only one I had problems with was WoW, so I quit. People call me a wuss for it, but I couldn't care less what they think. I respect my wife, and she respects me.
 
Chombo said:
Amen. Basically I got a full set of Tier 0, which was the best I could do without going to Molten Core (if that gives you a hint about how long ago I quit.) I found all I was doing was grinding for cash and leveling alts. Which in turn would eventually find me in the same place with alts. PvP started to suck when I was constantly outgeared.
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Back then, raiding was comparatively easy to what it is now. You showed up 2-3 days per week, for 2-3 hours per day, and you progressed. There wasn't the need to farm, do dailies, PVP to PVE, and all the mess we have in WoW today.
 
I think that the industry is partly to blame. Most adults that I know aren't interested in the things that they used to do for fun as kids. How many of us take a toy car and make 'vroom vroom' noises while driving it off the couch these days? Gamers, as a whole, are growing up but games are stuck in this awkward middle ground where they're not supposed to be excessively violent, mature, or complex. I think that games like Bioshock (specifically the plot, even if it felt truncated) and The Witcher (complex, long-term moral choices) hint at what is possible in games, but we're not there yet.

Unfortunately, there are few developers looking to push the boundaries of anything besides graphics. Sure, Crysis and CoD4 sure look pretty, but have they done anything else to advance the medium? The same goes for WoW- it may be incredibly addictive, but there's nothing revolutionary about it. In fact, I would argue that it's slowed down the industry, since developers and publishers are focusing on making the next cash cow/MMO at the expense of other genres.
 
OP this is a great read thanks for the topic. My 2 cents. I am almost thirty and have alot of memories like the ones mentioned here. I still love to game but I cannot find something to stick with for more then a few hours at most. I think part of it is getting older, living your life, friends hobbies change as well. COD4 was the last single player game I have completed in years on my computer even though I hate MP single player was worth the money. I like TF2 because it is EASY to get into and alot of class options like a MMO. The only other game I can stand to play for extended time periods is Mythos. I think after spending hours at work on a computer talking to bitchy customers when I come home I want something simple to play now. Unlike CS, BF2, WoW, etc..... All are great games, but still take loads of time to master. I like Mythos because I can play for 30mins and actually enjoy the simplistic gameplay, same for TF2 (if some of the maps didnt last forever) I would feel the samething.

Everyones preferences change when getting older and more priorities come into play. Hell I like watching the Food Network unlike years ago I used to make fun of my Mother watching it lol
 
I think it might be partially that there was always a game that had something new and exciting after you got bored of the previous one. I played Runescape (in it's original form, back when there were 5 servers. Terrible game now), then D2 for a long time, then I played Counter Strike, then WarCraft III, then WoW. After WoW, there was nothing until Oblivion. There hasn't been anything for me since.

I now find myself looking for a game like those but there's too much focus on graphics rather than gameplay. These games are the epitome of repetition with only some changes in setting. And then there's the sequels. The only games that keep me playing to the end are ones with great story lines, but you can really only experience those games once for the 10 or so hours that they are. They never stay in any disc tray for long. There's so many games now, yet there's so few with any substance.
 
MemoryInAGarden said:
Back then, raiding was comparatively easy to what it is now. You showed up 2-3 days per week, for 2-3 hours per day, and you progressed. There wasn't the need to farm, do dailies, PVP to PVE, and all the mess we have in WoW today.
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What? When I used to raid BWL/AQ40/Naxx(five day raid schedule), I had to spend every single minute of "free time" in WoW to farm! If anything TBC is the exact opposite. The game has been made much easier.
 
calebb said:
You can't buy nostalgia.

But Tabula Rasa is pretty awesome. (my review)
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if you played GW for 800 hours you will see how shitty Tabula Rasa really is. Either way, try LOTRO. I have been in the same boat as you, then I tried LOTRO and simply LOVE IT.
 
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