HP ZR30w Announced

If the quality to price ratio is anywhere near the ZR24w.. woohoo. No mention of price.
 
I keep seeing everywhere this is supposed to have a 30-bit panel. Am I missing something, or did high-end displays actually did just recently start going with 10-bit panels?

Snake oil?
 
setekh said:
I keep seeing everywhere this is supposed to have a 30-bit panel. Am I missing something, or did high-end displays actually did just recently start going with 10-bit panels?

Snake oil?
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Well it would appear LG has 30-bit IPS panels out now. NEC says their new PA series is 30-bit and presumably they aren't lying. So, if this uses the same panel then there you go.
 
Sycraft said:
Well it would appear LG has 30-bit IPS panels out now. NEC says their new PA series is 30-bit and presumably they aren't lying. So, if this uses the same panel then there you go.
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That I was unaware of. For some reason, I was sure it was 10-bit.

In this case, though, the 30-bits seem plausible.
 
Anandtech did a review, but waiting for someone like say behardware or prad.de to do a comprehensive review, including testing it with a quadro class video card and checking if it really delivers 30-bit color
 
Lag is the same as a Dell 3007. Win!

Does it have the polarizer filter? And why'd they choose S-IPS instead of H-IPS?
 
Polarizers are basically dead, not even NEC is putting them into their professional/medical grade displays. I'm not sure why.
 
setekh said:
That I was unaware of. For some reason, I was sure it was 10-bit.

In this case, though, the 30-bits seem plausible.
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10 bit is 30 bit ;)
10 bits per color and three colors equals 30 bits.

(with only 10 bits for everything you would only have 1024 colors,
and with 8 bits only 256 colors)

Compared to 8 bit per color and a total of 24 bit for regular non-TN panels.
And 6 bit per color and a total of 18 bits for TN-panels (though they accept 24 bits for dithering).
 
brumwald said:
10 bit is 30 bit ;)
10 bits per color and three colors equals 30 bits.

(with only 10 bits for everything you would only have 1024 colors,
and with 8 bits only 256 colors)

Compared to 8 bit per color and a total of 24 bit for regular non-TN panels.
And 6 bit per color and a total of 18 bits for TN-panels (though they accept 24 bits for dithering).
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Oh, I'll get my coat....

That's what you get for reading stuff diagonally. I was sure it said 30-bit per channel.
 
Just to clarify: does the display sport a Wide Color Gamut 8bit CCFL panel or a Wide Color Gamut 10bit one like the NEC PA series?
 
How has the number of bits anything to do with the backlight? Or what do you mean?
 
... a WCG CCFL 8 bit panel does not support true 30bit imaging
 
Just to clarify: does the display sport a Wide Color Gamut 8bit CCFL panel or a Wide Color Gamut 10bit one like the NEC PA series?
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The NEC implements a 8bit panel, at least this is my current information. Unless you test it in a real 10bit workflow you have no chance to verify/ falsify this (10bit input and 10bit panel is the only combination that would bypass FRC). Or someone has to open the screen to see what panel is really used.

Best regards

Denis
 
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The problem is that manufacturers often speak of 10bit capability if this bit depth is supported via DisplayPort or HDMI - especially if a panel with internal FRC (instead of implementaion in the scaler) is used. An advertising message should be taken with a grain of salt. But as I said: If someone is willing to open his display we would be one step ahead. My information came from a user who had spoken with NEC Germany (link). But I will also try to find out what panel is really used.

Best regards

Denis
 
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10 bit input/panel are pretty much irrelevant unless you are running Quadro Class card and custom software.

For people running windows on consumer cards it 8 bit gradiations is all you will see. And since there is no OSD and thus no imaging controls on the monitor at all there is nothing internally to take advantage of 10 bit panel.

In the end this really has nothing over the old Dell 3007-HC. No scaler, no controls, no sRGB emulation, no game console supporting inputs. All the same limitations of the 3007-hc and no tangible advantage.
 
People say that the antiglare on the 3007-HC is bad, I can't say that this one is better but it seems like LG learned that an overly aggressive ag-coating isn't that great.

And the big advantage of this one over the 3007-HC is that you will actually be able to buy the ZR30W (the 3007 models are not on sale everywhere)... And it has at least two inputs, where one of them is displayport which is nice for those that want to use 20+30+20 (or any other setup with at least three monitors) with the eyefinity-cards.

So while current owners of the 3007, LP3065, W3000H and similar might not get overly excited it still seems like a decent deal for those in the market for a 30" monitor - with the usual scaler vs. no-scaler trade-offs.
 
Well I haven't had a lot of issues with the AG on the 3007-HC or my LP3065c, It's kind of annoying at first but as soon as you get used to it, it's not nearly as bad or even noticeable.
 
For anyone that has seen the new ZR30W, please comment on the AG coating. Is it similar to the U2410?
 
Yes, anyone bought it yet? How is the AG coating?

I can confirm 3007wfp AG coating is bad. 3008wfp got some but can tolerate.
 
Yes please want to know whether this has bad AG coating - bought Samsung 305T as it has no sparkles, but now that model is discontinued and I need 2 x new 30" displays for video editing systems.
 
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Hi all - I need to buy two monitors this week - anyone seen one of these yet please!?
Really want to know if they are = or < or > sparkle problem of LP3065 and of Dell U2410??

Thankyou
 
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