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Hows my timings look?
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if it runs faster than it looks good, but if it runs faster but not as stable then it looks bad
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you are not running at the rated speeds of your ram so i wouldn't say that the ram is unstable it maybe your cpu
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arent your rated timings 2-2-2-7?
and by rated speed i meant frequency. you aren't running at 213mhz fsb so i don't think that your memory would be topped out yet because your memory is rated to run at 433mhz
and by rated speed i meant frequency. you aren't running at 213mhz fsb so i don't think that your memory would be topped out yet because your memory is rated to run at 433mhz
I'm confused now I suppose. This is off of Kingstons website. So if I go back to 2,3,3,7 I will be able to run my fsb higher? And by this I would be getting around 206fsb? I'm confused now. I am running my ram at 2,2,2,7 2.8v so wouldn't I be better off running at 2222 for performance or how high you think I could get my fsb this way vs. 2,3,3,7? You think I should lower it's voltage too?
Kingstons website.
Specifications:
434MHz 184-pin Unbuffered DIMM
(SDRAM-DDR, 2.6V, CL2, Gold)
Timing for this part: 2-3-3-7-1.
Kingstons website.
Specifications:
434MHz 184-pin Unbuffered DIMM
(SDRAM-DDR, 2.6V, CL2, Gold)
Timing for this part: 2-3-3-7-1.
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i thought you had BH-5 chips on your kingston, but if you checked the kingston website and they said that your rated timings are 2-3-3-7 then i wouldn't go under that it'll make your ram unstable. and try lowering the voltage too, only overvolt if you are overclocking.
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but are you clocking the ram over what it's rated for?
i think you are only overclocking your cpu.
because your fsb is at only 183 raw, and your ram can handle 217 raw fsb.
and changing the timings tigher will reduce latency which will increase your performance, but i only recommend this if you are underclocking your ram alot, which i think you are doing, but if you want to get the fsb higher relax the timings back to 2-3-3-7, and you'll be able to get more fsb out of it
Overclocking my cpu yes, I'm at 184 but since my ram is at 184 to isn't that 1:1? So how would do this exaclty you said 217 so should I do 11-12X 217 for my cpu too? I'm confused here but obviously I would do this at 2,3,3,7. I always thought running at 2,2,2,7 ment more performance?
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im sorry if im making this confusing but yes 2-2-2-7 would mean faster performance, but that is only for chips that are designed for such tight timings, i think yours is unstable so don't run it at that anymore, and unless you're running 217 fsb you're not overclocking your ram yet
So I'm hearing 2,2,2,7 is unstable but it means it's unstable wouldn't that say the same for an OCed processor? Feels faster at this speed I don't notice any problems. I'm having a hard time figuring out what I should max my fsb at? Or should I keep it where it is since it's stable then OC my ram? keep it at 12x184 and then instead of 184mhz on my ram go to what? I don't know whats the normal max I should go to?
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oced procs can be stable up to a certain point. same goes for the ram it can only handle such tight timings, but from what i read earlier i thought you said that your ram was unstable at 2-2-2-7 so i recommended you to back off to 2-3-3-7, but now you said that you aren't seeing any probs then keep it at that. but if you clock your fsb any further im pretty sure your ram would be come unstable, unless you use a fsb/ram divider.
you can try to push your ram further see where it'll go until it's unstable and then use a divider like 5/4 to push the fsb and clock your cpu until you get to the point where you got to the highest clock your ram will handle with those timings, or the cpu won't handle anymore fsb then decrease the multiplier, then i think you'll be set
i hope this clears any confusion
you can try to push your ram further see where it'll go until it's unstable and then use a divider like 5/4 to push the fsb and clock your cpu until you get to the point where you got to the highest clock your ram will handle with those timings, or the cpu won't handle anymore fsb then decrease the multiplier, then i think you'll be set
i hope this clears any confusion
I don't agree. If the RAM can take it and be stable, then use tighter timings.
The timings, 2 2 2 7, are how often the RAM 'refreshes', in a sence. By lowering the first three numbers, you make it refresh faster. The last number is slightly differnt. Lower is generally better for it, but for some reason, NForce2 mainboards like 11 better. There is apparently a bug in the chipset design.
I have some RAM that is being overclocked quite a bit. I have the voltage up, as well. This RAM is crap. I have it running 2.5 3 3 11 at 200 fsb, which is under it's rated timings (3 4 4 9) and way over it's rated speed. It does just fine. In fact, it gets some outstanding benchmarks, and I'm quite pleased with it. I had this RAM running 2 2 2 11 at it's rated speed, as well.
They are mis-matched, brand wise, and running in dual channell.mewannafastpc
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he just said it was unstable, thats why i told him to back it off a bit
and i did say that if he underclocked his ram he can use tigher timings
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sure, i don't think it'll hurt anything, i've heard that ram can take voltages pretty easily, but i think you should only overvolt the ram if you overclock the ram. but that's me
take my ram for instance is rated at 333mhz but it's running at 400mhz right now at 2.65 rather than the recommended 2.55volts.
take my ram for instance is rated at 333mhz but it's running at 400mhz right now at 2.65 rather than the recommended 2.55volts.
2.5 3 3 (7)<<if i change that to 11 will it make it run betterOriginally posted by m³ñ
I don't agree. If the RAM can take it and be stable, then use tighter timings.
The timings, 2 2 2 7, are how often the RAM 'refreshes', in a sence. By lowering the first three numbers, you make it refresh faster. The last number is slightly differnt. Lower is generally better for it, but for some reason, NForce2 mainboards like 11 better. There is apparently a bug in the chipset design.
I have some RAM that is being overclocked quite a bit. I have the voltage up, as well. This RAM is crap. I have it running 2.5 3 3 11 at 200 fsb, which is under it's rated timings (3 4 4 9) and way over it's rated speed. It does just fine. In fact, it gets some outstanding benchmarks, and I'm quite pleased with it. I had this RAM running 2 2 2 11 at it's rated speed, as well.