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How tough are external hdds?

zalazin

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Has anyone done any studies on external usb hdds as to their abilities to survive a fall off a desk or being bumped. I recently knocked one off a desk. Seagate 4tb usb backup plus. I got read errors on chkdsk and then not enough space to fix mbr when I ran chkdsk /r. A reply from a forum member said drive was probably toast. I then ran seatools for windows in fix all long mode 10 hours later done and drive passed. I then ran chkdsk r again and no errors. Made me seriously doubt chkdsk. Drive so far has been working fine. I no longer trust Microsoft utilities let alone the company.....
 
Nope.

There's way too much variation between brands and models of hard drives, and brands and models of enclosures. The best best is to treat them as gently as possible and if they do get dropped or bumped hard, hope for the best.

I do find it odd that you lost all trust in MS utilities and the entire company based on chkdsk reporting read errors. Inconsistency in hardware diagnostics has been pretty common across all vendors and all hardware since PCs were created. That's why people usually recommend running a few different scanning/repair tools. Some will find problems that the other program doesn't see, some can correct issues other programs can't.
 
My faith in MS faded w windows 10 I have 4 windows 8.1 and 10 win 7 machines.,, When you say diagnostic tools vary. Well may different brands but hdd rules about sectors, smart etc are pretty standard and Windows chkdsk should not care about drive brand... It now looks as if only the drive's company utilities are any good.....
 
My faith in MS faded w windows 10 I have 4 windows 8.1 and 10 win 7 machines.,, When you say diagnostic tools vary. Well may different brands but hdd rules about sectors, smart etc are pretty standard and Windows chkdsk should not care about drive brand... It now looks as if only the drive's company utilities are any good.....

If you pick 5 different HDD diag tools, regardless of drive brand, controller brand, or software vendor, you'll get 5 different results on most drives. Especially when you're talking about possible impact damage. There's a dozen ways to skin the cat, and each company does their own method. Some methods are good for certain error types and bad for other error types. That's why the general rule is to try a few different tools.

And remember, "chkdsk" was originally designed for file system errors, not physical disk errors. That feature is available, but it's not the primary function of the tool.
 
When a drive manufacturers software can remap and repair a hdd when chkdsk cannot then of what use is it? Ms has really been flaky since 10 came out too bad they lost their focus.....
 
How well HDDs fare in physical durability varies depending on brand and type. But there are very few that are really designed to be "rugged". Dropping an HDD is almost always bad for it. That is one of the many reasons people have been switching to SSDs.

When a drive manufacturers software can remap and repair a hdd when chkdsk cannot then of what use is it? Ms has really been flaky since 10 came out too bad they lost their focus.....

He literally just told you what use it is:

And remember, "chkdsk" was originally designed for file system errors, not physical disk errors. That feature is available, but it's not the primary function of the tool.

You keep assuming things that are not true. Why do you come here asking for information and then completely disregarding information given to you. Chkdsk is not the be all and end all of fixing hard drives, that wasn't really what it was designed for. It was designed as a quick tool to help diagnose issues with the file system or detect bad sectors and reconfigure the system around the bad sectors correcting errors in the file system. Vendor tools generally try to fix underlying problems in the drive that are causing the bad sectors, that is why it is highly recommended to use the vendor tool once Windows detects an error. There are also other software programs and other tools out there that can be used to correct errors that are more effective than the quick and dirty chkdsk.

So really it is ridiculous to lose faith in Microsoft because a diagnostic tool they provided a long time ago, is not sufficient for all tasks you want.
 
Thank you for telling info I basically already knew have a nice day......
 
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