How To Survive A Plane Crash: The App!

Probleminfected said:
Run and grab all the mini bottles and drink them all before impact?
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Surprisingly good advice. Anesthetizing everyone will reduce injuries.


I know I'm old but theres this piece of paper in the seat pocket in front of you. Or are we trying to save plane weight and the steward/esses just going to hook you up with a web page now?
 
Quickly attempt to become a member of the mile high club. Errrr.. 1/2 mile high club. No, wait, 1/4 mile high club. .... 1/8 mile..... Are you done yet?!?!
 
so the airplane catches on fire... your screwed... the air plane gets hit by lighting all the avionics are dead and the gas does not explode... your still screwed most modern airframes are not aerodynamic they simply are good enough with enough thrust behind them. plane gets hit by something and takes out the cockpit you really in trouble it points down when the stick in not floating. that will not make any sense to most people when the stick is not the neutral position the tip of the plane starts to air toward the ground, until it hits the ground. clearly if it is being held steady or pulled back toward the pilot it does not point down but if their is no stick anymore or it breaks the connection, a dead stick used to mean neutral but most airlines don't want pilots to try and take off vertically... so they slow the gain pulling back. think of joy stick like a xbox controller where it only counts part of the movement. the auto aim points down unless dead center. likely also because with the stick horizontal it would with weight point down, with a fighter jet they point vertical by default.
 
DPI said:
No, how to survive a plane crash = be on the ground when it happens.
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Wouldn't work, most passengers would be on the ground with the plane when it crashes (which is kind of the point of plane crashes).
drakken said:
so the airplane catches on fire... your screwed... the air plane gets hit by lighting all the avionics are dead and the gas does not explode... your still screwed most modern airframes are not aerodynamic they simply are good enough with enough thrust behind them. plane gets hit by something and takes out the cockpit you really in trouble it points down when the stick in not floating. that will not make any sense to most people when the stick is not the neutral position the tip of the plane starts to air toward the ground, until it hits the ground. clearly if it is being held steady or pulled back toward the pilot it does not point down but if their is no stick anymore or it breaks the connection, a dead stick used to mean neutral but most airlines don't want pilots to try and take off vertically... so they slow the gain pulling back. think of joy stick like a xbox controller where it only counts part of the movement. the auto aim points down unless dead center. likely also because with the stick horizontal it would with weight point down, with a fighter jet they point vertical by default.
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Planes are designed to with stand lightning, in fact lightning strike happens on aircrafts much more often than you'd think. Ironically the most likely time where a lightning strike would probably do the most damage to an airplane is when it's on the ground.

If something hits a plane and takes out its cockpit, the position of the flightstick would be the least of your concern, because several things much more catastrophic would contribute:

1. No cockpit = no Pilots to land the plane
2. Being hit by something which takes out the cockpit tends to sheer the entire cockpit off, along with the flight controls. The lack of flight control, as well as complete destruction of the aerodynamic of the plane, would ensure the crash, no matter how the plane was designed. I have never heard of a cockpit where it gets sheared in a way that all pilots die but the flight instruments remain intact.
3. If cockpit gets hit by an object and is breached, an explosive decompression would occur, which will again, further disrupts the aerodynamics of the plane, which would result in crash.

Jet fighters are no different in this regard, jet fighters will crash without its pilot and flight controls.
 
drakken said:
so the airplane catches on fire... your screwed... the air plane gets hit by lighting all the avionics are dead and the gas does not explode... your still screwed most modern airframes are not aerodynamic they simply are good enough with enough thrust behind them. plane gets hit by something and takes out the cockpit you really in trouble it points down when the stick in not floating. that will not make any sense to most people when the stick is not the neutral position the tip of the plane starts to air toward the ground, until it hits the ground. clearly if it is being held steady or pulled back toward the pilot it does not point down but if their is no stick anymore or it breaks the connection, a dead stick used to mean neutral but most airlines don't want pilots to try and take off vertically... so they slow the gain pulling back. think of joy stick like a xbox controller where it only counts part of the movement. the auto aim points down unless dead center. likely also because with the stick horizontal it would with weight point down, with a fighter jet they point vertical by default.
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Modern airframes are aerodynamic. They're just designed to be able to generate enough lift at high speeds, not low speeds. There is a huge difference between not aerodynamic and optimized for different cruising speeds. A 747 that has lost all engines will still be able to glide, it'll just lose altitude fairly quickly to maintain gliding, and will probably be incapable of landing safely without damage. An aircraft with large straight wings can glide for long distances without losing much altitude, but cannot travel at high speeds.

chenw said:
Wouldn't work, most passengers would be on the ground with the plane when it crashes (which is kind of the point of plane crashes).


Planes are designed to with stand lightning, in fact lightning strike happens on aircrafts much more often than you'd think. Ironically the most likely time where a lightning strike would probably do the most damage to an airplane is when it's on the ground.

If something hits a plane and takes out its cockpit, the position of the flightstick would be the least of your concern, because several things much more catastrophic would contribute:

1. No cockpit = no Pilots to land the plane
2. Being hit by something which takes out the cockpit tends to sheer the entire cockpit off, along with the flight controls. The lack of flight control, as well as complete destruction of the aerodynamic of the plane, would ensure the crash, no matter how the plane was designed. I have never heard of a cockpit where it gets sheared in a way that all pilots die but the flight instruments remain intact.
3. If cockpit gets hit by an object and is breached, an explosive decompression would occur, which will again, further disrupts the aerodynamics of the plane, which would result in crash.

Jet fighters are no different in this regard, jet fighters will crash without its pilot and flight controls.
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I saw this one video where a poorly maintained aircraft had the front cockpit window blow out. They were able to safely land the plane. Then again, they were only ascending through I think it was 10-15,000 feet when that occurred. Point being, just because there was a breach in the fuselage doesn't immediately render the plane incapable of flying. It depends on the type of breach, the extent of the damage, and where the damage occurred.

Although yes, any event that takes out the flight controls will make the plane crash.
 
Tsumi said:
I saw this one video where a poorly maintained aircraft had the front cockpit window blow out. They were able to safely land the plane. Then again, they were only ascending through I think it was 10-15,000 feet when that occurred. Point being, just because there was a breach in the fuselage doesn't immediately render the plane incapable of flying. It depends on the type of breach, the extent of the damage, and where the damage occurred.
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Yes, I am aware of that particular accident, IIRC the pilot that was blown out miraculously survived the ordeal.

The point I was making was made under the assumption that 'taking out the cockpit' meaning that a catastrophic event that renders the pilots unable to control their aircraft (EG extensive cockpit damage, death of pilots or, more drastically, the loss of the entire cockpit), in which case the airplane is doomed for a variety of reasons besides its 'natural mode of motion'.
 
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