How much do you pay for power?

[Roman79]

There is a lot of talk about power bills around here, so I was just curious what everyone pays. If you're not sure check your power bill, it should be in $/KWh.

My power is included in my rent, but the rate where I live is $0.105/KWh CDN (or about $0.09/KWh USD).
I use enough power that my landlord raised my rent $100/month a couple years ago, and it was still a good deal for me

 

[OSUguy98]

$0.0669/KWh (Fairmont, WV..... Allegheny Power)


Keep on Folding!! For the [H]orde!!

 

[FLECOM]

.10861 i think here for FP&L... f'ing people & loving it!

 

[Seanmounce]

There are a few reasons power is increasing in price in Canada. The lack of generation stations being the key thing here. Nanticoke is a coal generation plant in ontario. The government has been imposing new laws and emissions rules on them forcing many repairs and upgrades, driving up they're costs and lowering efficiencies do to restrictions put on they're emissions output. Though good for the environment, it drives up electricity costs. Our aging nuclear solution is in need of a major refit. Pickering A/B is our oldest operating nuclear plant right now and is in terrible need of rebuild or a full shutdown. There are tremendous costs involved in keeping this plant running due to its age. Darlington being the promise with rumors of a possible expansion on or offsite somewhere east of the GTA if this happens, our costs for electricity will go down. Bruce Power, the only independant nuclear facility not part of OPG (where I work ) is undergoing a refit under the supervision of AECL (Ontario Energy Canada limited). This is driving up costs with the hopes of lowered costs once the two reactors are refit and oppertational. As much as alot of the tree huggers hate nuclear power it is the only viable and realistic energy source for the future. As much as the Canadian government says they will shutdown coal plants, it won't happen in our lifetimes. I figured i'd share with you why you pay what you do and what we're looking at in the near future.

 

[FLECOM]

with all that we have learned after 3 mile island and chernoble i dont see why we dont go crazy building nuke plants... the plants we have now are mostly over 40 years old and none have had major accidents except for one, thats pretty decent...

 

[ND40oz]

Hmm...I've never really kept track of the price per hour, guess I'll have to check tonight.

 

[Seanmounce]

with all that we have learned after 3 mile island and chernoble i dont see why we dont go crazy building nuke plants... the plants we have now are mostly over 40 years old and none have had major accidents except for one, thats pretty decent...

We didn't learn much from Chernobyl, they're plant used a very bad design that has never been used anywhere else in the world. That and the construction was done without any of the laws that we have to ensure quality. The crew wasn't trained very well and at the end that was the result. Really if we learn anything from it, don't take such a force lightly, and don't cut corners when it comes to nuclear. Really, all things we already knew.

 

[nobody_here]

my bill just says my meter number and here's what you owe us.....$101 for the month

 

[FighterAce124]

0.12016/KWh peak. During the summer the bill will get to around $250~ on average.

 

[Mohonri]

Last I checked, we were getting billed $.1485. I think that qualifies me for the highest posted price so far. And to think I live in Houston, the energy capital of the US...

What is interesting about nuclear power is that all the Treehuggers who were so actively campaigning against nuclear power 30 years ago are all now campaigning for it. Why? Well, someone clued them in to the fact that coal-fired power plants release enormous amounts of CO2 and radioactive waste into the atmosphere, where it spreads who-knows-where. Nuclear power, by comparison, has zero atmospheric emissions (well, some water vapor, but who cares about that?), and its radioactive waste is easily contained and we can choose exactly where it goes (and stays). Oh, and did I mention that 95% of spent nuclear fuel is unburned uranium that can be easily reprocessed into new fuel, that the components of spent fuel responsible for long-term radiation can also be reprocessed into new fuel, and that the rest is only substantially radioactive for 300 years?

I gotta stop posting when someone mentions nuclear power. We need to get our government to pull it's head out of that warm, dark place and encourage the building of new nuclear plants...

 

[YoNeX]

FREE!

 

[movax]

I gotta stop posting when someone mentions nuclear power. We need to get our government to pull it's head out of that warm, dark place and encourage the building of new nuclear plants...

OMFG. Same here. France was smart as hell (you don't see that everyday! </france bash>), and IIRC, about 75% of their power is now from nuclear plants.

Why don't we have more? That thing called the 1st Amendment allowed every paranoid, tree-hugging hippie to scream and whine about nuclear power and its "dangers". (Dangers that have been well contained/planned against I may add.)

Man, sometimes I just can't stand environmentalists. Sure, I like trees and such, but realism comes first...

 

[Seanmounce]

Last I checked, we were getting billed $.1485. I think that qualifies me for the highest posted price so far. And to think I live in Houston, the energy capital of the US...

What is interesting about nuclear power is that all the Treehuggers who were so actively campaigning against nuclear power 30 years ago are all now campaigning for it. Why? Well, someone clued them in to the fact that coal-fired power plants release enormous amounts of CO2 and radioactive waste into the atmosphere, where it spreads who-knows-where. Nuclear power, by comparison, has zero atmospheric emissions (well, some water vapor, but who cares about that?), and its radioactive waste is easily contained and we can choose exactly where it goes (and stays). Oh, and did I mention that 95% of spent nuclear fuel is unburned uranium that can be easily reprocessed into new fuel, that the components of spent fuel responsible for long-term radiation can also be reprocessed into new fuel, and that the rest is only substantially radioactive for 300 years?

I gotta stop posting when someone mentions nuclear power. We need to get our government to pull it's head out of that warm, dark place and encourage the building of new nuclear plants...

You are exactly right, I was trying to make the same point in my post above. There are some emissions made by sub-systems in the plants but not near the amount that the coal plants emit. On the same note, we still can't get rid of our coal plants due to the abundency of coal, and that we don't create enough electricity otherwise, I remember the Liberals making some outrageous claim that coal would be gone by 2010, YEA RIGHT.

 

[sandmanx]

Last I checked, we were getting billed $.1485. I think that qualifies me for the highest posted price so far. And to think I live in Houston, the energy capital of the US...

What is interesting about nuclear power is that all the Treehuggers who were so actively campaigning against nuclear power 30 years ago are all now campaigning for it. Why? Well, someone clued them in to the fact that coal-fired power plants release enormous amounts of CO2 and radioactive waste into the atmosphere, where it spreads who-knows-where. Nuclear power, by comparison, has zero atmospheric emissions (well, some water vapor, but who cares about that?), and its radioactive waste is easily contained and we can choose exactly where it goes (and stays). Oh, and did I mention that 95% of spent nuclear fuel is unburned uranium that can be easily reprocessed into new fuel, that the components of spent fuel responsible for long-term radiation can also be reprocessed into new fuel, and that the rest is only substantially radioactive for 300 years?

I gotta stop posting when someone mentions nuclear power. We need to get our government to pull it's head out of that warm, dark place and encourage the building of new nuclear plants...

Yeah, I'm in Houston as well, and mine is constantly over $0.15 except for this past month, which was $.1480 because I only used 466kWh. I'm using TXU as my energy provider as well, if I still used reliant, it would be higher.

Here is the breakdown:

Monthly Base Charge 	$5.31 	
250 kWh at $0.027549 per kWh 	$6.89 	
216 kWh at $0.072893 per kWh 	$15.74 	
Fuel Cost Adjustment at $0.088082 for 466 	$41.05 	
Residential Rate Subtotal 	$68.99 	
Sales Tax 	$.69 	
Residential Rate Total 	$69.68

As you can see, we really get nailed on fuel costs here.

 

[Roman79]

Last I checked, we were getting billed $.1485. I think that qualifies me for the highest posted price so far. And to think I live in Houston, the energy capital of the US...

What is interesting about nuclear power is that all the Treehuggers who were so actively campaigning against nuclear power 30 years ago are all now campaigning for it. Why? Well, someone clued them in to the fact that coal-fired power plants release enormous amounts of CO2 and radioactive waste into the atmosphere, where it spreads who-knows-where. Nuclear power, by comparison, has zero atmospheric emissions (well, some water vapor, but who cares about that?), and its radioactive waste is easily contained and we can choose exactly where it goes (and stays). Oh, and did I mention that 95% of spent nuclear fuel is unburned uranium that can be easily reprocessed into new fuel, that the components of spent fuel responsible for long-term radiation can also be reprocessed into new fuel, and that the rest is only substantially radioactive for 300 years?

I gotta stop posting when someone mentions nuclear power. We need to get our government to pull it's head out of that warm, dark place and encourage the building of new nuclear plants...

Heh heh silly Treehuggers. Don't get me wrong I think protecting the environment is VERY important, but I enjoy laughing at the "sheep" that follow the latest trend.

So I'm curious, without getting too much off topic how does a coal fired plant produce radioactive waste?

 

[Roman79]

Bruce Power, the only independant nuclear facility not part of OPG (where I work ) is undergoing a refit under the supervision of AECL (Ontario Energy Canada limited).

Also how come you didn't choose the "I make my own power" option?

 

[filthysanchez]

Last I checked, we were getting billed $.1485. I think that qualifies me for the highest posted price so far. And to think I live in Houston, the energy capital of the US...

i live close to houston, and i think we pay around 8 cents per hour, but i'm not too sure.

 

[Tigerbiten]

My approx cost breakdown per month is...........

875 KwH @ 0.1031 = £90.21. Peak power.
360 KwH @ 0.0413 = £14.87. Offpeak Power.
30 Days @ 0.1024 = £3.07. Standing charge.
Grand total of 1,235 KwH @ 0.0875 = £108.15

My bill drops by ~80% when I switch the computers off ........

Luck ...........

 

[Wraith28k]

I think we pay $0.073.. it's not actually listed on the bill, so I divided it out...

Memphis Light, Gas, and Water.

 

[FLECOM]

So I'm curious, without getting too much off topic how does a coal fired plant produce radioactive waste?

its in the coal

http://www.repp.org/repp_pubs/articles/envImp/05radiation.htm

http://www.epa.gov/radtown/coal-plant.htm

 

[Pocatello]

Last I checked, we were getting billed $.1485. I think that qualifies me for the highest posted price so far. And to think I live in Houston, the energy capital of the US...

What is interesting about nuclear power is that all the Treehuggers who were so actively campaigning against nuclear power 30 years ago are all now campaigning for it. Why? Well, someone clued them in to the fact that coal-fired power plants release enormous amounts of CO2 and radioactive waste into the atmosphere, where it spreads who-knows-where. Nuclear power, by comparison, has zero atmospheric emissions (well, some water vapor, but who cares about that?), and its radioactive waste is easily contained and we can choose exactly where it goes (and stays). Oh, and did I mention that 95% of spent nuclear fuel is unburned uranium that can be easily reprocessed into new fuel, that the components of spent fuel responsible for long-term radiation can also be reprocessed into new fuel, and that the rest is only substantially radioactive for 300 years?

I gotta stop posting when someone mentions nuclear power. We need to get our government to pull it's head out of that warm, dark place and encourage the building of new nuclear plants...

I agree. QFT!

 

[Seanmounce]

Also how come you didn't choose the "I make my own power" option?

Very true.

 

[codegrinder]

i paid 70$ @ 790KWh last month without folding, this house can't handle all the boxes 100% at one time

 

[LOCO LAPTOP]

i got FPL but i dont get the bill

 

[gnewbury]

Last I checked mine was less than $0.10.
Several things -
My folding season has been from late Sept to April or so. Used to be fire up another Celly, now its "throw another AMD on the fire". I cannot accurately track any decrease in cost for my natural gas usage (primary heat source) with 24/7 folding, but I'm sure if those KW's are cooking they do reduce my other heat bills. The rest of the year I only try and run about 6 or 8 CPU's.

Has anyone [H]ere at the [H] studied points per KW per therm recently?

Newclear vs other forms - Most peeps can deal with smog/dirt - it's the mutations from accidents like Chernobyl that haunt us. A properly regulated/inspected nuclear facility is excellent, a few cost cutting measures, it blows and all the children downwind have mutations. Google chernobyl and mutations.
That's part of the reason I'm [H]ERE see my sig since I started - it's for the children.

It's like the concept of communism - all for the greater good, which works until there are two people and one wants more.

So I vote for nuclear if there is some assurance it won't suffer cost cutting measures and all go to the lowest bidder irregardless of safety. Remember we are all downwind of somebody.

 

[ND40oz]

Finally figured it out, .1103, damn bastards, we use 1800-2500 a month the bill is so confusing, total it was $356 last month

On that note, does anyone else have a stabilization referal rate charge? Last month it was 92 bucks...

 

[Dew]

Free baby! One definite advantage to living in the barracks. Completely unmetered power and water.

 

[MN Scout]

"Free"

Studio apartment. Sometimes the studio is good sometimes bad. It's so small I really can't get that many computers going without it overheating the room. Then I can't leave the window open because death fumes from the smokers get sucked in to my studio . I could rig something up that sucks the hot air out, but that would require a board in the window and tubing; I'm not that [h]ard.

 

[Roman79]

Then I can't leave the window open because death fumes from the smokers get sucked in to my studio .

I have the same problem at times in my apartment, only they are above me and the smoke somehow moves down?!?

 

[BillR]

OMFG. Same here. France was smart as hell (you don't see that everyday! </france bash>), and IIRC, about 75% of their power is now from nuclear plants.

Why don't we have more? That thing called the 1st Amendment allowed every paranoid, tree-hugging hippie to scream and whine about nuclear power and its "dangers". (Dangers that have been well contained/planned against I may add.)

Man, sometimes I just can't stand environmentalists. Sure, I like trees and such, but realism comes first...

As much as I hate to support France they have indeed moved to nuclear power in a big way, so have numerous other countries.

What I find ironic is almost all the nuke plants built in France were and are being built by the same company that built Three Mile Island and quite a few others here in the USA,

I live very near TMI and to date any problems including the “big” one have been caused by human error.

For those of you who rely on coal fired generators you will be receiving if you have not already received a letter from your power company (Mine is PPL) explaining why they are going to Congress to raise the power rates to $0.80 (or more) Per KHW so they can modify the plants to stop mercury output. Strangely enough, that’s one complaint we don’t hear very much from the tree huggers even though they got the deadly mercury thermometers banned and all hospitals that used sphygmomanometers (Blood pressure device) based on the Mercury tube principal as well as making a huge attempt to change the material your dentist uses to fill your teeth.

I live just over one mile from TMI but my electricity comes from a different state, go figure.

 

[Roman79]

For those of you who rely on coal fired generators you will be receiving if you have not already received a letter from your power company (Mine is PPL) explaining why they are going to Congress to raise the power rates to $0.80 (or more) Per KHW so they can modify the plants to stop mercury output.

Are you sure that's right? That's an 8 fold increase in a lot of cases. So people paying ~$100/month for power suddenly pay $800/month?!? That can't be right.....there'd be riots

 

[Mohonri]

<snip>
Newclear vs other forms - Most peeps can deal with smog/dirt - it's the mutations from accidents like Chernobyl that haunt us. A properly regulated/inspected nuclear facility is excellent, a few cost cutting measures, it blows and all the children downwind have mutations. Google chernobyl and mutations.
<snip>

I agree, but you have to remember the Chernobyl disaster was caused by a poor design and bad work practices, not from on-going operations. Many modern reactors are designed so that they can't melt down or release radioactive material, no matter what happens. Control systems have also come a very long way (I'm a control systems engineer in the energy industry, BTW), as have work practices.

I'd be the first to volunteer my back yard for a nuclear plant. The whole NIMBY idea is just stupid.

 

[Seanmounce]

As much as I hate to support France they have indeed moved to nuclear power in a big way, so have numerous other countries.

Why would you hate to support a country that is doing well, and has done nothing to you? Sounds like racism to me.

 

[Scorpionjwp]

My father is paying $108 for power down in Northern Georgia. He has allowed me to keep folding, where as I still work on trying to find a job, still no luck.

 

[[Spectre]]

Why would you hate to support a country that is doing well, and has done nothing to you? Sounds like racism to me.

Don't worry the French look down their noses at the "french" canadians.

 

[Seanmounce]

Don't worry the French look down their noses at the "french" canadians.

As true as that might be, why should we also be that way, why not show that we can take the high road and not endorse it?

 

[[BRO]Alaskan]

Why would you hate to support a country that is doing well, and has done nothing to you? Sounds like racism to me.

The French are a different Race? Well that explains it. I have spent a bit of time in France traveling and vacationing and I like the French. They keep Americans from being the rudest people in the world. This may not be true of all French just the ones I have met.

 

[Xilikon]

.0634$/KWH CDN here in Quebec...

Hydroelectricity FTW !!!

 

[Seanmounce]

The French are a different Race? Well that explains it. I have spent a bit of time in France traveling and vacationing and I like the French. They keep Americans from being the rudest people in the world. This may not be true of all French just the ones I have met.

I am from France, I just think discrimination of any type shouldn't be tolerated.

 

[unhappy_mage]

At home, 12.885 cents per kWh, non-summer rate.

But my electricity is included in dorm fees here at school.