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erf

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well i could be building my new computer right now but newegg shipped my case to friggin portland, oregon (im in texas). so right now lovely little bundles of technology are sitting in a big cardboard box collecting dust. how pissed would you be? :mad:
 
you can still build your rig......use the static wrap the mobo came in, put mobo on top of it, and put mobo box under all that.......load everything up and boot up, when case gets there move it all into case

soulsaver
 
soulsaver_8229 said:
you can still build your rig......use the static wrap the mobo came in, put mobo on top of it, and put mobo box under all that.......load everything up and boot up, when case gets there move it all into case

soulsaver
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are you for real?
 
erf said:
are you for real?
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yea. It's a good idea to test the barebones setup b4 you put in in the case anyway. Just CPU, GPU, and RAM on the mobo and plugged up to the PSU. To make sure everything works.
 
I've done it lots of times...at work...with stuff that isn't mine...and I will probably get fired if I break. Really, the only "risky" part is when you have to short out the On/Off jumper to boot up. Just keep it to a wooden table and your safe.
 
Well, I get miffed when I see people use the word "pissed" in thread titles. ;)
 
Lethal said:
Well, I get miffed when I see people use the word "pissed" in thread titles. ;)
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oh shizzle... my bad dude. i guess i cant post that pic with my mexican maid posing with all my parts either? ok i do have some comments to make about my parts. first of all this zalman7700 cu 120mm heatsink weighs ALOT! wtf? this thing is gonna be hanging from my mobo? also i kept hearing about newegg shipping their hd's in bubble wrap....it's true....wtf?
 
better get to naked boxen son.......so you know it all works before you run out of neweggs 30 day warnetee.......

soulsaver :p
 
soulsaver_8229 said:
better get to naked boxen son.......so you know it all works before you run out of neweggs 30 day warnetee.......

soulsaver :p
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i dont have a power supply yet. hehe. im thinking of going with the antec truepower II 430 watt but i'm not sure if it will power my sys and allow a lil room for oc'ing. will cuz i can go to best buy now and get it.
 
You guys know some of those static bags are conductive, right?

There was a thread here in the past (years ago), where some knucklehead couldn't figure out what was wrong while doing a "benchtop" test....turned out the bag was shorting out his mobo.

Be careful! :D
 
soulsaver_8229 said:
.....use the static wrap the mobo came in, put mobo on top of it,
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Don't do that! That's as good as putting your mobo on top of a metal sheet! Those things are conductive, that's why they are called static bags.
 
they are called anti static bags actually :p


and please post threads where this happened? and the bag was the actual cause of it, not saying your wrong or right just saying id like to see :p

soulsaver
 
Yea, anti-static bags :)

I don't know where the original thread is, but I remember it happened at least once on here. The triangle pattern in the bag is conductive (as well as those that are completely metallic), thats why your devices don't get killed by external static. Now I'm not exactly sure if the outside of the bag is conductive, I guess I was exaggerating a -little- but better safe then sorry yea?
 
erf said:
well i could be building my new computer right now but newegg shipped my case to friggin portland, oregon (im in texas). so right now lovely little bundles of technology are sitting in a big cardboard box collecting dust. how pissed would you be? :mad:
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God, I love this guy --- erf! Check out my sig from about a month ago.. :D
 
Talonz said:
Yea, anti-static bags :)

I don't know where the original thread is, but I remember it happened at least once on here. The triangle pattern in the bag is conductive (as well as those that are completely metallic), thats why your devices don't get killed by external static. Now I'm not exactly sure if the outside of the bag is conductive, I guess I was exaggerating a -little- but better safe then sorry yea?
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turn the bag inside out then? :confused: :p ;)

soulsaver
 
May I direct your attention to the electronics section, and read the sticky?

Anti-static bags are SEMICONDUCTORS, not conductors, and not insulators. Powering up a motherboard while sitting on top of a static bag and/or anti-static foam will cause damage to your board. It is the same thing as putting resistors between each and every solder point on the board. What happens when you put a resistor inline with an LED? The LED gets dimmer. Now put a voltage regulator in the equation, and the voltage regulator attempts to regulate the voltage at the set value, and it can't because they static bag and/or foam is "sucking out" all the power.

In other words, don't do it. Plug in the power supply first, then connect it to the motherboard. Sit the entire assembly on a wooden table. Leave the PSU switch (the one on the back by the power cord) off. This will ground your motherboard to the power supply, which is grounded to your wall outlet. Keep in mind you can still "zap" your components, but it is much less likely, since any extra voltage will travel the ground paths safely to the ground.

Keep the switch in the off position, so you don't accientally power up the board with no fan(s) installed.

So why do I know so much about ESD? Well, I work here: http://www.msanet.com/ and we are trained anually about ESD prevention since we manufacture life-saving equipment. I build everything on this page. http://www.msanorthamerica.com/catalog/catalog534.html
 
Talonz said:
The triangle pattern in the bag is conductive (as well as those that are completely metallic
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Incorrect.

The pink anti-static bags are static resistant.
The silver bags are static-proof. The silver bags actually have tiny wires inside them that, when sealed, create a "cage" around the item being protected. This is called a Faraday Cage. Without the item being totally enclosed in the bag, there is no protection. Simply laying a component on TOP of a bag, or inside an unsealed bag, has absolutely no static protection, not even .000001% more than laying out in the open.

The trianlge pattern is simply to let you know the bag has SOME anti-static capability.
 
SarverSystems said:
Incorrect.

The pink anti-static bags are static resistant.
The silver bags are static-proof. The silver bags actually have tiny wires inside them that, when sealed, create a "cage" around the item being protected. This is called a Faraday Cage. Without the item being totally enclosed in the bag, there is no protection. Simply laying a component on TOP of a bag, or inside an unsealed bag, has absolutely no static protection, not even .000001% more than laying out in the open.

The trianlge pattern is simply to let you know the bag has SOME anti-static capability.
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I understand the concept of a faraday cage. I always thought that the triangle pattern was conductive, forming the faraday cage for the pink bags. I also am under the impression that the 'silver' material in the solid AS bags is conductive, forming a sort of faraday cage. But, I'm not 100% sure if the material is conductive on the outside, and having heard of past problems, I was telling him to be safe and not to lay it on the AS bag. Of course, I didn't know that the pink bags are static resistant and the silver ones are static proof...
 
Ha ha ha. Scaring you? Wait until you get into tribo-electric fields!

Yeah yeah, I know, shut the hell up already.

I just try to help out whenever I see some dangerous (to yourself or your hardware) things being done.
 
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