How long will Z170/LGA-1151 last? or go Skylake-X in 2H 2017?

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I was curious how long socket Z170/LGA-1151 socket will last?
For example, say I upgraded now to z170 for sh*ts and gigs, how long would it support new processors before requiring another upgrade? Kaby lake -> Cannon Lake? so a couple years?

or should I wait for an upgrade on the new Skylake-x in 2H 2017 on LGA 2066 (replacing current 2011-v3 / x99)? I think Kaby-x will only be 4 cores

I primarily use my PC for gaming / internet browsing. I know the new thing will be DX12 which I believe games would start using >4 cores right? So wouldn't it make sense to start moving to >4 cores especially with the die shrinks coming which will increase clocks?

What do you think?
 
It'll last through Kaby Lake, but expect Coffee Lake to require a new socket.

Frankly, if you want more cores, might as well go Broadwell-E now (though that platform is a dead end), Skylake-X isn't coming until late q3/early q4. For pure gaming, a high clocked 6700K (and soon, 7700K) will be the way to go.
 
I would not go broadwell e at this point. I might as well wait for Skylake e but if the clocks aren't going to be near my 4790k at 4.8ghz then it wouldn't be an upgrade I don't think. I mostly game so I need the clock speed but want more cores for the future since it should eventually be useful for games.
 
Nirad9er said:
I was curious how long socket Z170/LGA-1151 socket will last?
For example, say I upgraded now to z170 for sh*ts and gigs, how long would it support new processors before requiring another upgrade? Kaby lake -> Cannon Lake? so a couple years?

or should I wait for an upgrade on the new Skylake-x in 2H 2017 on LGA 2066 (replacing current 2011-v3 / x99)? I think Kaby-x will only be 4 cores

I primarily use my PC for gaming / internet browsing. I know the new thing will be DX12 which I believe games would start using >4 cores right? So wouldn't it make sense to start moving to >4 cores especially with the die shrinks coming which will increase clocks?

What do you think?
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mainstream Coffee lake won't be more than 4 cores. Don't trust anyone who says otherwise.
 
Well, I am just saying the word is there will be 6 core Coffee lakes. I have seen other things too in other articles stating same but I am lazy.
 
The other option is Zen with 8 cores 16 threads. Pricing/performance and if will it do what you want with gaming is the question. I have an I7 6700K and it does not blow me away on multi-tasking stuff such as rendering. In a nutshell it is not really that more powerful in rendering then my rather old FX 9590. Still a good processor but not a leap above on some of the stuff I do or want to do. I am also interested in Skylake X and would be looking at a 8 core plus solution there.
 
DrLobotomy said:
Well, I am just saying the word is there will be 6 core Coffee lakes. I have seen other things too in other articles stating same but I am lazy.
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I would be rather happy with a 6 core Coffee lake with no GPU (wasted space). Still will be more enticed with an 8 core or above solution.
 
noko said:
I would be rather happy with a 6 core Coffee lake with no GPU (wasted space). Still will be more enticed with an 8 core or above solution.
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Coffee Lake contains GT2. Even if you dont use the IGP. See it as dark silicon that helps cool your chip.
 
KazeoHin said:
Everyone and their dogs have said this about every launch of a new intel arch. Intel isn't going to give us more cores if they don't have to. and there are plenty of people buying their quads.
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No, they haven't. More to the point, there has never been a leaked roadmap from Intel suggesting a hex core pre-Coffee Lake mainstream processor.
 
If coffee lake "may" be 6 core then likely it'll be a new socket. Skylake has been out a year and Kaby lake will run until sometime in 2018 when coffee lake is released therefore if I upgraded to Kaby lake then that socket would likely be end of life in 1 F'ing year! This pisses me off with all these socket and chipset changes requiring new motherboards every GD time.

At least Zen will be AM4 and would allow a Zen+ upgrade at some point and likely whatever comes after that.
 
Maybe f*ck it and build 2 rigs.

Rig #1 : Latest and greatest 4c/8t (6700K, 7700K, etc.)
Rig #2 : Dual socket based on the fastest E5 Xeon you can get with the most cores at the lowest price

That's what I ended up doing. Stuff that's compute intensive generally scales well in parallel, so that gets run on rig #2.
Rig #1 focuses exclusively on highest ST performance with a decent amount of cores/threads.
 
I'll just wait and see what Zen is like. If it's not much of an upgrade from my 4790k when I'll wait 6 more months for Skylake X.
 
Nirad9er said:
If coffee lake "may" be 6 core then likely it'll be a new socket. Skylake has been out a year and Kaby lake will run until sometime in 2018 when coffee lake is released therefore if I upgraded to Kaby lake then that socket would likely be end of life in 1 F'ing year! This pisses me off with all these socket and chipset changes requiring new motherboards every GD time.

At least Zen will be AM4 and would allow a Zen+ upgrade at some point and likely whatever comes after that.
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Wait for LGA-2066, that platform will last three years :p
 
Do people even upgrade chips within the same socket anymore?

2009 - LGA1156 - Socket H1 - Nehalem/Westmere (H55,P55,H77,Q57)
2011 - LGA1155 - Socket H2 - Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge (H61,B65, Q67,P67,H67,Q67,Z68,B75,Q75,Z75,H77,Q77,Z77)
2013 - LGA1150 - Socket H3 - Haswell/Broadwell/Devils Canyon (H81,B85,Q85,Q87,H87,Z87,Z97,H97)
2015 - LGA1151 - Socket H4 - Skylake/Kaby Lake (H110,B150,Q150,H170,Q170,Z170,Z270,H270,Q270,B250,Q250)

Is it realistic to expect to upgrade within 2 years for such small CPU improvements?
You seem to get 1 extra year on the high end but that still seems kind of quick given the slow advancements.

2011 - LGA2011 - Socket R - Sandy Bridge-E/Ivy Bridge-E (X79)
2014 - LGA2011-3 - Socket R3 - Haswell-E/Broadwell-E (X99)
2017 - LGA2066 - Socket R4 - Skylake X/Kaby Lake-X (X299)


EuphoricRage470 said:
Wait for LGA-2066, that platform will last three years :p
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