Yeah, I meant for the encoding part - should have trimmed my quote to make it clear. I was leaning towards the 2600K, but the more I think about it the more I lean back to the 2500K instead. How does HT affect overclocking/heat? I remember it being an issue when i7 first came out - still a factor now?
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How important do you think the 2600k's extra 2MB cache be over the 2500K?
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Yeah, I meant for the encoding part - should have trimmed my quote to make it clear. I was leaning towards the 2600K, but the more I think about it the more I lean back to the 2500K instead. How does HT affect overclocking/heat? I remember it being an issue when i7 first came out - still a factor now?
It was an issue originally because the chips themselves were already hot. I can run P95 right now at 4.2GHz and my load temps will hover around mid 50s with HT enabled. I haven't bothered to turn it off. It seems many reaching high clocks don't bother turning it off either unless they care to go for even higher clocks. The 2600K I believe will make a difference over the 2500K due to HT in encoding/rendering.
So is 4.2 as high as you can push the chip? Have you tried any higher?
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so much silliness here.
There is no way that the difference will be 25%.
Take a look at some of these:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/specifications.htm
E6420 vs 6400 or 4MB vs 2MB of L2 cache.
http://xtreview.com/review183.htm
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e6420_6.html#sect1
with double the L2 cache, the difference is at BEST 10%. in about 10% of games shown.
There is no way that the difference will be 25%.
Take a look at some of these:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/specifications.htm
E6420 vs 6400 or 4MB vs 2MB of L2 cache.
http://xtreview.com/review183.htm
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e6420_6.html#sect1
with double the L2 cache, the difference is at BEST 10%. in about 10% of games shown.
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Max I'ved been so far = 4.7GHz @ 1.32v (33-36 idle and a load of 55-60 depending on the core). I dare not push it further until I get solid safe numbers on voltages.
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I heard they cost like $800 and they won't even sell you one unless you are wearing a tuxedo
You can find places that'll let you get away with just a coat and tie, but you gotta look around.
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According to Anandtech at least, you do not want a H67 based board if you want to OC -- if I'm reading their review / info properly, the H67s will not allow OCing at all, but will make use of the onboard video output. What you want is a P67 board, which will allow OCing but will not have onboard video output.
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I hear they won't sell you one unless you show them your papers proving your participation w/ the Hitler Youth Program.
seriously, I'm still waiting for a P67 u-ATX board.
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I was put off by the cost of feature rich p67 motherboards as well; that is until I saw that article
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Very good thread... I'm in the same dilemma, deciding between the i5 2500K and the i7 2600K and searched the forms first to see if there was a similar thread before posting a new one...
There are a few differences between the Core i7 2600K and Core i5 2500K. In order I would say the i7 has Hyperthreading, 2MB larger L3 Cache, and 100Mhz higher clock frequency and $101price premium.
According to almost every review out there BOTH the i5 2500K and the i7 2600K can easily be overclocked to 4.4~4.6 Ghz with the stock Intel air cooler. If you add a decent Aftermarket Air or Liquid cooler setup you can easily break the 5+Ghz mark. Bottom line is both the processors have the same overclock potential.
Now the real question is the $101 price premium worth the differences? If so in which applications and daily usage will we actually see the benefits that the i7 2600K has over the i5 2500K and to what extent (as both of them have the same overclocking capability)?
Check out the Overclocking comparison here
There are a few differences between the Core i7 2600K and Core i5 2500K. In order I would say the i7 has Hyperthreading, 2MB larger L3 Cache, and 100Mhz higher clock frequency and $101price premium.
According to almost every review out there BOTH the i5 2500K and the i7 2600K can easily be overclocked to 4.4~4.6 Ghz with the stock Intel air cooler. If you add a decent Aftermarket Air or Liquid cooler setup you can easily break the 5+Ghz mark. Bottom line is both the processors have the same overclock potential.
Now the real question is the $101 price premium worth the differences? If so in which applications and daily usage will we actually see the benefits that the i7 2600K has over the i5 2500K and to what extent (as both of them have the same overclocking capability)?
Check out the Overclocking comparison here
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from what i've seen most chips struggle above 4.8Ghz. not to say that it can't be done, but it requires a large increase in voltage to do it. since these chips are so new, time will tell just how reliable they are at high voltages.
for playing games and browsing [H], the i5-2500K is perfect.