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How far can I upgrade?

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Noah

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Hello,

I have a 1.8 GHz Pentium 4, core "Williamette" with a 400 MHz frontside bus. What is the best processor I can get that will be compatible with my board?
 
whats the socket size on your motherboard, if its 423pin then you're out of luck, if its 478pin then you might have a few options
 
Originally posted by Noah
How can I tell? It's a Dell.
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If it's a Dell I would go to their support website and look it up there. Plug in your service tag and they should have some kind of document or forum post telling you what you need to know.

http://support.dell.com
 
Originally posted by Gooogler
Get a 423 to 478 Socket Converter and upgrade to a 3.0GHZ ???
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he has a socket 478 already as cpuz said....

i'd start looking at some of the A procs (not the 2.4A 533fsb chip) but the older northwood A's. i know you can still get a 1.8A, 2.0A, or 2.4A northwoods at newegg.com which are all 400fsb and might work in your board.
 
you CAN DEFINITELY upgrade to a 2.4A (400FSB) processor.
They also made 2.5A & 2.6A's but they are hard to find these days. Depending on the age of your system you might even be able to drop in a 533FSB processor like up to a 3.06

Like the current 533FSB Dell systems are based on the 865 mobo and would support an 800FSB processor if put in.

Do you have sdram or ddr ? if you have DDR you might even be able to put a 533FSB processor.
 
it may be a D850GB motherboard.
Most likely it only supports 400fsb chips and being a socket 478 then like mentioned start looking for a 2.4a. If you can find a 2.5 or 2.6 most likely you'll have to upgrade the bios because the stock bios probably doesnt have multiplier support for 25X or 26X. Hopefully you'll have support for a 24X. I had a MB with RDRAM that needed a bios update when the 2.4a came out.
 
I'd actually ditch the mainboard and keep the Willy. I have a Willy in my second system on a P4P800. It's really not that bad.
 
Intel boards always seem to be very stable, if your not into overclocking they will be great for a long time. But If your doing a board upgrade a memory upgrade is probably also at hand.
 
Originally posted by MemoryInAGarden
I'd actually ditch the mainboard and keep the Willy. I have a Willy in my second system on a P4P800. It's really not that bad.
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:eek: you're not serious are you? the Willy is the WORST P4 processor to date, he'd see a much bigger performance increase dumping that willy and getting a northwood. hell, PIII Tualatins and 1.4ghz athlons are better choices for a cpu than a willy.

go with a 2.4a or higher, that rdram will give it all the bandwidth it needs so all you need is a new cpu for an easy kinda cheap upgrade.
 
^ LOL..It sucks compared to my 2.8C, but for what it is, it isn't terrible. It's able to run Max Payne 2 with that TI4200 at 10x7 with most of the stuff on medium. It runs everything else at 10x7 or better too, save Halo. If the Prescott celerons are support by the 865 boards, I might put one in my secondary system. It's supposed to have the same amount of cache as the Willy plus a higher bus speed and clock speed advantage. For the $80ish the celerons now run for, it wouldn't be a bad upgrade.
 
Is there a board I could buy that would NOT require a memory upgrade? I would be exited if i could keep my RAM and upgrade to a 2.4C P4. :)
 
Originally posted by PureBooYah
there's no board that supports 800fsb and uses RDram
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/agree

Your better off going ahed and dumping the RDRAM and suck it up and get some DDR...

RDRAM is way too costly now and is not worth having it around.
 
PC1066 RDRAM isnt that bad... but he has PC800 Im sure since he's at 400FSB. (if not PC600)

But he could get this ASUS http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4t533/overview.htm

and a 3.06Ghz (with HT)

and have a fairly up-to-date system with HT and then even overclock a little too.

He would have to run memory async (slower) but it would probably be about as fast as an 845 with DDR266-333
 
if you can....hold on to your current system right now and save up about 700 to upgrade when the new P4 socket comes out

700 is just a rough estimate:confused:
 
Originally posted by mewannafastpc
if you can....hold on to your current system right now and save up about 700 to upgrade when the new P4 socket comes out

700 is just a rough estimate:confused:
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Thats probably a better strategy. Hold off and buy a new core system.

Ballpark #'s

new LGA775 P4 Prescott ---- $200
new 915 or 925 mobo ------- $150
new ram (DDR2-533) --------- $250
new PCI-express Videocard - $300

Total ----------------------------- $900

assuming fairly high-end brand, spanking new stuff.

But would be very upgradeable and cutting edge.

Or right now upgrading to new CPU & mobo with current ram

Buy new 3.06 HT $230
ASUS mobo ------ $130

Total --------------- $360
 
I'll probably be flamed for suggesting this as a source, but Tom's hardware seems to indicate that the new socket isn't the cure-all everyone hopes it is...I don't know about temps, but there seem to have been no performance increases.

If I were you, I would wait one month. Yes all these people will be getting their shiny new Grantsdale and Alderwood boards, but the prices of Canterwoods and Springdale boards will PLUMMET, as will the prices of the Northwood Cs. Do what I did and find some quality yet free DDR RAM at somewhere like Office Max (see sig), pick up a good canterwood board like the IC7 (vanilla version already down to $110! Drool! I got one when my P4P800 exploded; works well!), snag a 3.2C or 3.4C, and you'll be set. Only thing is that you'll have locked yourself out of upgrading into PCI Express video cards, which have the potential to make a distinguished leap onto the scene, but the other technologies (DDR2, LGA775) don't thrill me as much. By the time they get the wrinkles ironed out they'll likely be incompatible with the Grantsdale/Alderwood chipsets anyway. Just like you have the same socket as the Northwood C's, but you can't upgrade to one. Everyone's saying "Wait! Wait! DDR2! LGA775! PCI Express!" but I say grab the best of this mature technology and let them play product testing. For crying out loud Canterwood boards have enough finicky problems with certain brands of DDR memories and this is established technology! This forum will likely be littered for weeks with people finding peculiarities like that in Grantswood & Alderdale.
 
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