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Horrible Temps W/ WC

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Linkin Park

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Hi, two weeks ago i bought a Watercooling setup from Dangerden w/ the TDX, Maze 4, dd12V pump, and the single 120MM radiator. Since then i havent noticed that well of better temps. Right now im idling at about 40c CPU and 35C in the case and thats w/ the side off. Does this seem right. When im playing games like HL2 the CPU jumps up to about 48 and the case goes to like 40. I dont remember having this bad of temps on air. Is this normal or did i set something up wrong?

Running a 2100+ tbred OC'ed to 11x200@ 1.75 volts on a NF7-s
Ambient temps are about 73ish.
setup runs pump-rad-res-cpu-gpu-pump
 
ok....maybe the block does not have a good seal on the CPU. Take it off and clean the bottom of the block and the CPU with some isopropyl alchohol. Now, re-apply some thermal compound (thin even layer) and re-mount the block. Make sure it is a nice fit.

I made the same mistake in my haste to get my cooling up and running.

My 2 cents....

Gumbo
 
Linkin Park said:
Hi, two weeks ago i bought a Watercooling setup from Dangerden w/ the TDX, Maze 4, dd12V pump, and the single 120MM radiator. Since then i havent noticed that well of better temps. Right now im idling at about 40c CPU and 35C in the case and thats w/ the side off. Does this seem right. When im playing games like HL2 the CPU jumps up to about 48 and the case goes to like 40. I dont remember having this bad of temps on air. Is this normal or did i set something up wrong?

Running a 2100+ tbred OC'ed to 11x200@ 1.75 volts on a NF7-s
Ambient temps are about 73ish.
setup runs pump-rad-res-cpu-gpu-pump
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Other info needed to be know is what size of tubing id you are using, What video card you are cooling and if the card is over clocked? One thing to remeber is that before, you were air cooling all those componets by themselfs each one. Now you have combined the componets and are cooling all of them with just the H2o. Other questions to be asked are: Is the radiator fan pulling air into the case or pushing it out? How many other case fans do you have and what is their configuration as exhaust/intake as well? With the overclock you have and doing both vid and cpu with 70 degree+ ambient temps thats not bad. I would recomend some things to improve your cooling though. First and formost nothing beats larger or more radiator. For what you are doing I would easily recomend a 2x120mm fan radiator like the black ice or the thermochill or even larger. That is the primary source to improve you cooling. The other thing I would do is rerout some of the way your cooling system flows. Should go like this resivour-pump-radiator-cpu-gpu-back to resivour. Resivour is adding no cooling benifit, if sending water from the radiator directly to the cpu will give you the coolest water to the cpu. I would also recomend to have the radiator be an exhast for the system and have plenty of intake from case fans. But everything else seems to look pretty good. Maybe just not enough radiator for what your doing.

Captin Insano
 
Think you are using a bad path for the water. Go res->pump->.... You probably are losing all your pressure in the res the way you have it setup.

Also I think your mobo is notorious for reporting high temps (I used to use one till recently).
 
Unless there is a problem with your res setup, changing the component order shouldn't change the temps significantly....we've been over this before ;)
 
NF7-S reports horrible numbers with WC from my experience :(

Paths I can't speak on, but I wonder which Tbred it is you have. If it's an A, then I'm shocked it goes that high, but not shocked it puts out that much heat.
 
stumpy said:
Unless there is a problem with your res setup, changing the component order shouldn't change the temps significantly....we've been over this before ;)
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Many, many times...
 
The NF7-S uses a socket diode. Now that you dont have a cpu fan blowing into the socket area your temps are going to read higher. I recently went from air (SP-97 92mm Panaflo) to H2O (AquaExtreme50Z, Swiftech 6002-A, BIX) and my temps are around the same, a couple degree's higher idle, a couple lower at load. I was expecting a lot lower temps, but it is due to the fact that I dont have any air blowing into the socket area anymore.

Dont worry about your temps, I garuntee your CPU is a lot cooler now.
 
Sorry for the lack of info. I have 1/2 Tubing. My video card is a 9800NP flashed to an XT. I have the radiator in the front w/ the fan pulling air through it. Right now i have no case fans only because i have the side off which helps. Another thing that i was thinking about is that my reservoir is sandwiched between 3 HD's and 2 CD rooms. Could they basicly be cooking my water in the reservoir messing up w/ my temps?

Thanks for the replies
 
Linkin Park said:
Could they basicly be cooking my water in the reservoir messing up w/ my temps?
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stumpy said:
changing the component order shouldn't change the temps significantly....we've been over this before ;)
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Linkin Park said:
Sorry for the lack of info. I have 1/2 Tubing. My video card is a 9800NP flashed to an XT. I have the radiator in the front w/ the fan pulling air through it. Right now i have no case fans only because i have the side off which helps. Another thing that i was thinking about is that my reservoir is sandwiched between 3 HD's and 2 CD rooms. Could they basicly be cooking my water in the reservoir messing up w/ my temps?

Thanks for the replies
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If it were Me I would put the radiator at the top of the case (like a blowhole) and with the fan blowing outward through the radiator thru the top of the case venting to the outside. By blowing the air across the radiator in into the case the case and componet temps can rise. I would put some intake fans at the bottom front of the case if it has provisions as well as the back to bring in fresh cool air to cool the interior of the case as well as help cool the radiator. Put the door back on and then check. I also would either add a larger radiator or a second radiator for the amount of componets that you are cooling.(doing this is the best thing and most efficent thing that can be done to reduce your temps) As well as with another 120mm fan in the same external blowing config.


The Captin
 
With 2 blocks your temps are high. It may be just the mobo reading it wrong. I had the same Mobo up until just a week ago and was running a 2600 M @ 2.66G 1.95V and a 9800 Pro at 440/390. My temps were lower than yours as reported in Motherboard monitor ( note: Motherboard monitor and Abits system temps were always within 1 degree of each other. But since MM gets its info from Abits sensors thats no wonder.).
Idle: 36c Load: 45c . when I was running the CPU at 1.75V, like you are, it never went above 40c Load. The single 120 rad could handle it all well. My res was outback of the case., Rad on top outside of the case. Order of components is not important EXCEPT for the Res should be right before the pump.

If I were you Id reseat the blocks, taking great care to make sure the thermal paste is applied correctly. Get rid of any air that may be in your system. This may mean tilting/turning the comp almost upside down to clear any air bubbles. Beyond that try to get your hands on a actual temp probe to check your actual temps. ( motherboard monitor can be calibrated). Just rent or borrow a quality probe.
 
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