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HisSvt76

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Cnet is running a live feed from CES they just dropped, drowned and then liquid nitrogen froze iPads and it still ran that is just sick. That I guess to me says quality built. Petty impressive.

If you can look it up hopefully they post it up to their site.

If you have a Xbox the CNET app has a live feed and they are going back to this segment soon.
 
HisSvt76 said:
Cnet is running a live feed from CES they just dropped, drowned and then liquid nitrogen froze iPads and it still ran that is just sick. That I guess to me says quality built. Petty impressive.

If you can look it up hopefully they post it up to their site.

If you have a Xbox the CNET app has a live feed and they are going back to this segment soon.
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I have seen many, many broken iPads.. mostly cracked screens from dropping at waist height. And there are some bugs/hardware issues with the power button. They really aren't as well built as people think they are. My organization has about 600 of them for about a year now. 25-30 or so have needed hardware replacements already (not counting us fixing power button issues in house) which is a slightly higher percentage than Dell laptops. A 5% failure rate in the first year is the maximum I would find acceptable for a consumer hardware device/appliance and I find the iPad to be at the cusp of that range. My recommendation to anyone buying or owning an iPad, buy a good case. It needs it.
 
sheesh721 said:
I have seen many, many broken iPads.. mostly cracked screens from dropping at waist height. And there are some bugs/hardware issues with the power button. They really aren't as well built as people think they are. My organization has about 600 of them for about a year now. 25-30 or so have needed hardware replacements already (not counting us fixing power button issues in house) which is a slightly higher percentage than Dell laptops. A 5% failure rate in the first year is the maximum I would find acceptable for a consumer hardware device/appliance and I find the iPad to be at the cusp of that range. My recommendation to anyone buying or owning an iPad, buy a good case. It needs it.
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I was impressed none the less the dropped a nexus 7 (which I own) it basically exploded, so did a windows 8 phone from HTC the other impressive device was a surface tablet it survived the ladder drop as well.
 
Well it makes sense that the ipad didn't explode...it's glued shut while the nexus 7 isn't. I appreciate that for when I need to replace the battery I can do so myself without worry :p
 
HisSvt76 said:
I was impressed none the less the dropped a nexus 7 (which I own) it basically exploded, so did a windows 8 phone from HTC the other impressive device was a surface tablet it survived the ladder drop as well.
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Interesting. I'd like to check the video.
 
LOL did they even bother to drop an iPhone, or is that one just a foregone conclusion at this point?
 
PNut12345 said:
LOL did they even bother to drop an iPhone, or is that one just a foregone conclusion at this point?
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Yes they did a iPhone 5 and they slid it like a hockey puck that back gets messed up easy. It did survive the ladder corner drop though. They still said the sgs3 is a tougher phone even though it's pops open it snaps right back together. And they said the iPhone was a loss in water because of its construction.
 
I dropped my iphone 5 in a puddle today and quickly picked it up. Only a bare minimum rubber case. Thing was wet front and back. Didn't affect it (thank god!).

I did drop our iPad 2 once, caught it with my foot but it still slid and hit the tile floor. Put a dent on the corner. Didn't make me happy, as the only reason it was out of the case for that 1 minute was because I was cleaning the case.
 
sheesh721 said:
I have seen many, many broken iPads.. mostly cracked screens from dropping at waist height. And there are some bugs/hardware issues with the power button. They really aren't as well built as people think they are. My organization has about 600 of them for about a year now. 25-30 or so have needed hardware replacements already (not counting us fixing power button issues in house) which is a slightly higher percentage than Dell laptops. A 5% failure rate in the first year is the maximum I would find acceptable for a consumer hardware device/appliance and I find the iPad to be at the cusp of that range. My recommendation to anyone buying or owning an iPad, buy a good case. It needs it.
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The device wasn't designed to be dropped and I would not buy it if it was, for doing that would ruin it for it's purpose.

Get Apple Care +.
 
AQ_OC said:
The device wasn't designed to be dropped and I would not buy it if it was, for doing that would ruin it for it's purpose.

Get Apple Care +.
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You are entitled to your opinion, but their laptops hold up better and "aren't designed to be dropped" either. Mobile devices will be dropped, especially the iPad with its slippery back. There is no getting around it. Devices should be made to last through common use. I'm not saying it should withstand abuse, but it should hold up better than a $300 netbook for the price they charge.
 
BillNutz said:
What I want to know if it would still work after they did that in reverse order...
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They did first off the ladder. Then in the water. Then in the liquid nitrogen. Then they dropped it again. Outer screen shattered and still it booted. Was pretty ridiculous.
 
sheesh721 said:
You are entitled to your opinion, but their laptops hold up better and "aren't designed to be dropped" either. Mobile devices will be dropped, especially the iPad with its slippery back. There is no getting around it. Devices should be made to last through common use. I'm not saying it should withstand abuse, but it should hold up better than a $300 netbook for the price they charge.
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Nonsense.
 
Big difference between cheap materials and under-engineered vs not taking care of your shit
 
Why isn't it reasonable for more expensive equipment to handle somewhat normal abuse better? BTW, I was watching youtube one night and they were showing how well and iphone held up in drops compared to other phones. The iphone came out on top. I think it should because it was a more expensive device.
 
jimh425 said:
Why isn't it reasonable for more expensive equipment to handle somewhat normal abuse better? BTW, I was watching youtube one night and they were showing how well and iphone held up in drops compared to other phones. The iphone came out on top. I think it should because it was a more expensive device.
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Geez....I can name a number of expensive items that don't survive being dropped. If every device is designed to withstand drops, then everything would be heavy and clunky. If you want protection, there are many cases out there that will help an iPad survive a drop. Or you can get Applecare +. Don't expect the rest of us, who don't drop our shit or who arrange for protection of some type, to have to put up with clunky-assed devices because some of us are like to drop shit.
 
AQ_OC said:
Geez....I can name a number of expensive items that don't survive being dropped. If every device is designed to withstand drops, then everything would be heavy and clunky. If you want protection, there are many cases out there that will help an iPad survive a drop. Or you can get Applecare +. Don't expect the rest of us, who don't drop our shit or who arrange for protection of some type, to have to put up with clunky-assed devices because some of us are like to drop shit.
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+1. Not all of us have butter fingers.
 
I'm not sure what you two are pushing back on. Do you want to be able to drop an ipad and have it shatter into a million pieces because you don't think you'll ever drop it? In any case, in spite of what you want, iPads do pretty well in a drop. I guess you need a class action suit to make ipads more fragile. :)
 
AQ_OC said:
Nonsense.
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sheesh721 said:
Care to elaborate?
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He said he doesn't understand how things work in a corporate environment with multiple users.

I don't see the relevance of the liquid nitrogen.

Also if the screen is cracked whats the point?
It doesn't work if you can't use the screen.

Still this is CES so its kind of a joke regardless.
 
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The expectation that a Fabergé egg should be more resilient to damage than a regular egg because it's more expensive doesn't really make sense to me.

To each his own, though.
 
What? Apple is coming out with a new device called the Egg? I wantz one!

wonderfield said:
The expectation that a Fabergé egg should be more resilient to damage than a regular egg because it's more expensive doesn't really make sense to me.

To each his own, though.
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HisSvt76 said:
Yes they did a iPhone 5 and they slid it like a hockey puck that back gets messed up easy. It did survive the ladder corner drop though. They still said the sgs3 is a tougher phone even though it's pops open it snaps right back together. And they said the iPhone was a loss in water because of its construction.
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The GS3 isn't that tough. Mine and a few other GS3 owners I know have dropped the phone at less than 12" and ended up with a crack screen. In my personal case, I was sitting on a low patio chair and slipped off the cushion.
 
AQ_OC said:
Geez....I can name a number of expensive items that don't survive being dropped. If every device is designed to withstand drops, then everything would be heavy and clunky. If you want protection, there are many cases out there that will help an iPad survive a drop. Or you can get Applecare +. Don't expect the rest of us, who don't drop our shit or who arrange for protection of some type, to have to put up with clunky-assed devices because some of us are like to drop shit.
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Remember the original iPods, those were a rock solid and very durable. The next generation of Nanos became even more reliable. Remember the first iPhone? The ones that didn't turn pink and burn your face off were also extremely durable. All the aforementioned devices looked ahead of their time and matched functionality and durability with style.

The newer generation products are focusing more on style and functionality/durability has been lacking. We spend about $600 on our iPads.. cases are expensive and AppleCare/warranty is additional as well. The standard Smart Case is a rip off and fairly useless. It also doesn't fix the problem of the slippery back or people being lazy and flipping the device/case to a new position and having it accidentally detach/fall. And I'm not saying the device is unreliable, it isn't. It is just that we have seen a good number of hardware failures with them, more than most of the devices we purchase and we don't purchase anything that is "designed to be dropped". We buy computing devices that are designed for common use and hope they last. Some hold up better than others unfortunately.
 
sheesh721 said:
Remember the original iPods, those were a rock solid and very durable. The next generation of Nanos became even more reliable. Remember the first iPhone? The ones that didn't turn pink and burn your face off were also extremely durable. All the aforementioned devices looked ahead of their time and matched functionality and durability with style.

The newer generation products are focusing more on style and functionality/durability has been lacking. We spend about $600 on our iPads.. cases are expensive and AppleCare/warranty is additional as well. The standard Smart Case is a rip off and fairly useless. It also doesn't fix the problem of the slippery back or people being lazy and flipping the device/case to a new position and having it accidentally detach/fall. And I'm not saying the device is unreliable, it isn't. It is just that we have seen a good number of hardware failures with them, more than most of the devices we purchase and we don't purchase anything that is "designed to be dropped". We buy computing devices that are designed for common use and hope they last. Some hold up better than others unfortunately.
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Just more nonsense.

http://cnettv.cnet.com/always-live-torture-test-ces/9742-1_53-50138570.html
 
AQ_OC said:
Just more nonsense.

http://cnettv.cnet.com/always-live-torture-test-ces/9742-1_53-50138570.html
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Don't have time to watch the video, and regardless it is useless to my statement. We have hundreds of these devices in use daily. How well do they hold up to other tablets? Don't know. Our Kindles have lasted better than our iPads. We do not have any true Android or Surface tablets other than a few Nooks which have been reliable, but the sample size is very small to even make it worth mentioning. The Kindles are also used far less often than the iPads so it is not indicative of a fair comparison. The iPad very well may hold up better than other tablets, but they do not hold up better than our other mobile devices.

We have more netbooks, laptops and other mobile devices from Lenovo, Dell, HP, etc than we have iPads. And we have more iPads receiving hardware replacements than any other devices due to physical damage/daily use than other mobile devices. The home button on the iPads also have issues which is unfortunate because they only have one button on the display, it should be reliable/durable. The other devices have failed mobos, hdds, keyboards that need fixing at roughly the same rate the iPads receive physical damage. Aside from the home button the iPad we have very little hardware failures not related to being dropped.
 
sheesh721 said:
Don't have time to watch the video, and regardless it is useless to my statement. We have hundreds of these devices in use daily. How well do they hold up to other tablets? Don't know. Our Kindles have lasted better than our iPads. We do not have any true Android or Surface tablets other than a few Nooks which have been reliable, but the sample size is very small to even make it worth mentioning. The Kindles are also used far less often than the iPads so it is not indicative of a fair comparison. The iPad very well may hold up better than other tablets, but they do not hold up better than our other mobile devices.

We have more netbooks, laptops and other mobile devices from Lenovo, Dell, HP, etc than we have iPads. And we have more iPads receiving hardware replacements than any other devices due to physical damage/daily use than other mobile devices. The home button on the iPads also have issues which is unfortunate because they only have one button on the display, it should be reliable/durable. The other devices have failed mobos, hdds, keyboards that need fixing at roughly the same rate the iPads receive physical damage. Aside from the home button the iPad we have very little hardware failures not related to being dropped.
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Relax it was just fun to watch them drop and freeze then drown shit.

After seeing stuff like this I baby the shit out of my N7.
 
AQ_OC said:
Just more nonsense.

http://cnettv.cnet.com/always-live-torture-test-ces/9742-1_53-50138570.html
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I flipped through the video and found the part where they dropped the iPad. This should have been common sense, but it is not a real world use scenario. They dropped the iPad from ~9 feet which gave enough time to pull the back of the iPad downward because of the increased weight and the rounded back helps slip the iPad into a downward position. Because of this the brunt of the impact was focused to the flat back of the iPad and the impact was not directed to the screen or its mounts. In real world use this does not happen. If you drop the iPad on its corner or side from normal use heights the impact is transferred directly to the screen, not the flat back of the iPad. This causes breakage via cracks or shattering.
 
sheesh721 said:
I flipped through the video and found the part where they dropped the iPad. This should have been common sense, but it is not a real world use scenario. They dropped the iPad from ~9 feet which gave enough time to pull the back of the iPad downward because of the increased weight and the rounded back helps slip the iPad into a downward position. Because of this the brunt of the impact was focused to the flat back of the iPad and the impact was not directed to the screen or its mounts. In real world use this does not happen. If you drop the iPad on its corner or side from normal use heights the impact is transferred directly to the screen, not the flat back of the iPad. This causes breakage via cracks or shattering.
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They dropped several devices and several of the landed on their edges. And a drop is a drop, you don't know ahead of time how it will land. Drop most any 3 lb laptop on its edge and you are going to see major damage. Why in the hell should an iPad or any tablet be able to withstand a drop on a corner. Try that with any device of this weight and you will get similar results. Your entire premise is just silly. If you all spent all that money on giving that many people iPad and didn't bother to get cases or apple care then YOU are the problem, not the device.
 
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