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HL2 Beta Benchmarks (June 3 2004)

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CrimandEvil

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With all the talk about D3 I thought I'd post this for the ATI guys.;)
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?threadid=64854

Benchmarks:
http://www.ixbt-labs.com/articles2/digest3d/0604/itogi-video-hl2-wxp.html
http://www.ixbt-labs.com/articles2/digest3d/0604/itogi-video-hl2-wxp-aaa.html


I didn't find the FPS difference between ATI and NV as suprising as the CPU/FPS differences.
It looks like if your going AMD (A64) then you'll have some nice gaming coming your way regardess of what video card your using (makes the GT look like a great overall value).
 
CrimandEvil said:
With all the talk about D3 I thought I'd post this for the ATI guys.;)
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?threadid=64854

Benchmarks:
http://www.ixbt-labs.com/articles2/digest3d/0604/itogi-video-hl2-wxp.html
http://www.ixbt-labs.com/articles2/digest3d/0604/itogi-video-hl2-wxp-aaa.html


I didn't find the FPS difference between ATI and NV as suprising as the CPU/FPS differences.
It looks like if your going AMD (A64) then you'll have some nice gaming coming your way regardess of what video card your using (makes the GT look like a great overall value).
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http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=781503

already been posted...and how is this "for the ATi guys" ?
 
CrimandEvil said:
Sorry didn't see it.

Because they keep saying that HL2 will run best on ATI hence the " ;) " lol
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ah...gotcha...I'm sure nvidia will do just fine in HL2...
 
I would just be happy if they stopped putting "Built for Nvidia" on all the good games. Who cares?
 
Blad3 said:
Beta's can;t be trusted, can they?
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Yes they can, to the extent that the vast majority of the time the performance is streamlined before the gold release.

Edit: I'm a beta tester
 
hm, referring to ati card owners as 'ati guys', with little winking smileys, well congratulations, you are an official nvidia fanboy, crimevil. why dont you just admit that you're posting this thread to spite ati owners?

btw they dont say any information about this 'beta', for all we know they just have that old leak and decided to bench it in june.
 
hm, referring to ati card owners as 'ati guys', with little winking smileys, well congratulations, you are an official nvidia fanboy, crimevil. why dont you just admit that you're posting this thread to spite ati owners?

btw they dont say any information about this 'beta', for all we know they just have that old leak and decided to bench it in june.
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Na EmpTy and Crimevil aint Nvidia Biased are they :eek: Who wouldve thunk that :pKeep pimpin Nvidia boysThe sheep will follow but those with a brain will think for them selfs ;)
 
It has nothing to do with being an NVidia sheep....just that one card will run the game much better, based on performance.
 
M11 said:
It has nothing to do with being an NVidia sheep....just that one card will run the game much better, based on performance.
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see you're drawing conclusions from a leaked old beta(not even an alpha technically).
 
How can I be a fanboy when the card I'm using now is an old GF2? How can I be a fanboy if the next card I'm buying is going to be an 9200 (probably, I hope D3 runs okay) and later maybe a 6800SE (if they show up)?

What I'm getting tired of is ATI fanboys that feel like they have to always cheer for ATI. The reality of the situation is that both cards are good for current games but the new games NV seems to have the advantage performance wise (can't wait for the D3 guide for the screenshots :D ) despite ATI Fbys saying that it doesn't matter since ATI will be the one with the best possible performance when it comes to HL2 and that more games will be based on the HL2 engine then D3's. (I'd like to see that crystal ball)

The whole point is that, yet agian, both cards are going to be great looking at both benchmarks (D3 and HL2 beta) with NV at a slight lead but the difference is going to be between what CPU you have.

Honestly I don't care that you may have bought a new ATI card doh-nut and now some how feel...inadequate now that you can't count on NV's performance totally sucking with HL2, thats a problem that your going to have to work out yourself. That kind of thinking is what you'd call a "fanboy" and is just sad.

If you want to see a fanboy you don't have to look too far now that @trapine posted. :D
 
doh-nut said:
see you're drawing conclusions from a leaked old beta(not even an alpha technically).
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Lets just say that all betas are not leaked:)

Firsthand experience is good
 
SuX0rz said:
And the hating begins....
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I hardly think so, that is until the ATI/NV fanboys are out in force.
The whole point is that, yet agian, both cards are going to be great looking at both benchmarks (D3 and HL2 beta) with NV at a slight lead but the difference is going to be between what CPU you have.
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CrimandEvil said:
I hardly think so, that is until the ATI/NV fanboys are out in force.
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Wasn't refering to you; just observing that blood is in the water and its only a matter of time...

Thats what I get for watching Shark Week... :rolleyes:
 
CrimandEvil said:
How can I be a fanboy when the card I'm using now is an old GF2? How can I be a fanboy if the next card I'm buying is going to be an 9200 (probably, I hope D3 runs okay) and later maybe a 6800SE (if they show up)?

What I'm getting tired of is ATI fanboys that feel like they have to always cheer for ATI. The reality of the situation is that both cards are good for current games but the new games NV seems to have the advantage performance wise (can't wait for the D3 guide for the screenshots :D ) despite ATI Fbys saying that it doesn't matter since ATI will be the one with the best possible performance when it comes to HL2 and that more games will be based on the HL2 engine then D3's. (I'd like to see that crystal ball)

The whole point is that, yet agian, both cards are going to be great looking at both benchmarks (D3 and HL2 beta) with NV at a slight lead but the difference is going to be between what CPU you have.

Honestly I don't care that you may have bought a new ATI card doh-nut and now some how feel...inadequate now that you can't count on NV's performance totally sucking with HL2, thats a problem that your going to have to work out yourself. That kind of thinking is what you'd call a "fanboy" and is just sad.

If you want to see a fanboy you don't have to look too far now that @trapine posted. :D
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hah you fell into my trap!

<- not a fanboy. im actually considering a 6800gt, BUT i still think it would be HEALTHY for the video card war if ATI's performed better in HL2. thats all.
 
LOL :D
The sorry thing is it still had to be said.
I love my sig though:
The nvidiot vs. fanatic thing is kinda like special olympics boxing, personally I kinda like watching a couple retarded kids beating the crap outta each other but maybe thats just me
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:D
 
theelviscerator said:
I belong to a forum where it is against the rules to flame ANY form of hw purchase.
Imagine that rule here...
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Who flamed?
 
theelviscerator said:
I belong to a forum where it is against the rules to flame ANY form of hw purchase.
Imagine that rule here...
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Nobody has started up any flame yet.....I believe this thread has focused on facts, not people.
 
i think i may have flamed with the fanboy comment i was already warned by ciws for mentioning 'fanboy'. maybe i will get banned along with the grandpa porn guy! doh!
 
my point is it has gotten so rampant over this doom 3 issue people don't even know when they are doing it anymore...
 
Fanboy in itself is not naughty.....its how you use it.
 
theelviscerator said:
my point is it has gotten so rampant over this doom 3 issue people don't even know when they are doing it anymore...
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The same could be said of HL2.
 
theelviscerator said:
my point is it has gotten so rampant over this doom 3 issue people don't even know when they are doing it anymore...
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Totally agree. Hopefully by December the forum has got this all out of its system.
 
Thanks for the info on beta's...


hmm, I'm still going for the x800xt...I think...but if this means that the 6800u will be better in HL2, then maybe I won't...
 
THis is not suprising benchmark
I already knew that NVIDIA and AMD is going to outperform ATi and Intel. ;)

But still, there is no points comparing, go for wat u wanted and be happy with it ;)
 
Oh my God, the 6800 beats the Xwhatever by 5 FPS (1024x768 Athlon 64). Mark this day on the calendar! Who gives a shit, really? If you think you can notice 5 fps in a game, then personally I think you're 1 fry short of a happy meal.
 
freeloader1969 said:
Oh my God, the 6800 beats the Xwhatever by 5 FPS (1024x768 Athlon 64). Mark this day on the calendar! Who gives a shit, really? If you think you can notice 5 fps in a game, then personally I think you're 1 fry short of a happy meal.
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Now comes the hate. :rolleyes:
 
Oh my God, the 6800 beats the Xwhatever by 5 FPS (1024x768 Athlon 64). Mark this day on the calendar! Who gives a shit, really? If you think you can notice 5 fps in a game, then personally I think you're 1 fry short of a happy meal.
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Its SmoothMarketing3 I tells ya :p It ownz all benchmarks just ask nvidia.j/k
 
freeloader1969 said:
Oh my God, the 6800 beats the Xwhatever by 5 FPS (1024x768 Athlon 64). Mark this day on the calendar! Who gives a shit, really? If you think you can notice 5 fps in a game, then personally I think you're 1 fry short of a happy meal.
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rofl yeah 5fps isnt a differance i think 15+ is myself

besides the x800 pro and 6800 gt dont compare 12 pipelines/16 pipelines faster clocks too.
 
@trapine said:
Na EmpTy and Crimevil aint Nvidia Biased are they :eek: Who wouldve thunk that :pKeep pimpin Nvidia boysThe sheep will follow but those with a brain will think for them selfs ;)
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for a good time, click on @trapines name up there and then hit "find all posts by @trapine"...it's a funny read...so much desperation...so much ATi love...

we all have our favorites @trapine...nvidia is currently my favorite because I believe they are doing a better job at making video cards right now...and I talk about it in here because I don't want people buying ATi because they've been good for the past 2 years, they should buy what's best right now...and I think you know which card that is...

P.S. it's "themselves"
 
doh-nut said:
hah you fell into my trap!

<- not a fanboy. im actually considering a 6800gt, BUT i still think it would be HEALTHY for the video card war if ATI's performed better in HL2. thats all.
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I think it would be healthier for ATi to get the shit kicked out of them in every benchmark...I think a decisive loss would make them realize that they can't pull this rehash the r300 core nonsense and not add any new features...not to mention the lack of a "disable optimizations" checkbox...

ATi can do better than the X800 series, I think they rested on their laurels this round, and they deserve to get bitch-slapped for it...especially with their OpenGL situation...ideally they will realize they can't play around and beat nvidia and they'll bring some more compelling hardware to market next generation...and then it'll be really tough to know which one to buy...
 
AMDXPCottonFire22 said:
rofl yeah 5fps isnt a differance i think 15+ is myself

besides the x800 pro and 6800 gt dont compare 12 pipelines/16 pipelines faster clocks too.
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the x800 is clocked a lot faster than the GT...and they cost the same amount of money...not to mention the x800pro is the only new generation ATi card that's even available right now...so what else would we compare the GT to?
 
actually, I talked to a few people that dled the source leak that alpha leak has alot of ati optimizations done to it. If thats the case and its running this good on nV cards well thats a good measure of what is to come too.
 
@trapine said:
Its SmoothMarketing3 I tells ya :p It ownz all benchmarks just ask nvidia.j/k
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Do you do anything but parrot those senseless ATI users at Rage3D?

95% of them dont even know what the heck their talking about lol. All they do is post GO ATI!! You RULE!!!

You should try hanging out on forums that actually have some information mixed with something called FACTS.

SM 3.0 will bring a hell of alot more to the table than SM 2.0b can. You've seen it implemented into ONE game and yet you THINK you know something when you dont.

I'll tell you what is smooth marketing. Thats ATI's 3Dc. There is no noticeable IQ difference in-game using the 6800's and running DXT5 and at the most 3Dc will bring a 1-2% performance increase over DXT5.

I've personally ran the 3Dc demo which is a "worst case scenario" and i couldn't even get it to artifact like they did in those pictures. The floor looks perfect to me but maybe i dont crap my pants over something so minor you have to turn it at a 73.5 degree angle and turn your head sideways while putting your hand over one eye and lifting your leg in the air to see it.

HL2 doesn't even hardly make use of normal maps and yet its about the only game worth mentioning other then Far Cry that has announced to have it implemented lol.

Check out some of the big titles that will have SM 3.0 support:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=30736

Even HL2 will have SM 3.0 support lol.

And if you will look at the performance results with SM 3.0 in Far Cry you will see it DID bring a performance boost. As much as 30% in certain areas. The reason it wasn't HUGE was because what they used SM 3.0 for in Far Cry could of easily been done with just SM 2.0b. In Far Cry they are doing 3 light sources per pass on SM 2.0b and 4 per pass on SM 3.0. And the patch was recalled so we have no idea if performance will be the same or completely different once its re-released.

There are ALOT of things SM 3.0 can do that SM 2.0b can't. If you can't see that then just look at the specs Microsoft has given for each.
 
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