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High vs Mid/low end SSD

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psyside

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What are the real world benefits? how would one notice the difference if we don't count the benchmarks? knowing they all got ultra fast acces time and read times.

I got an A-DATA S596 turbo, and would like to know does it worth to swap it for,


1. OCz Vertex 2 5/60gb

2. Corsair Force 60GB

3. Crucial C300 60GB

4. Intel X25 40GB

Also from few reviews i saw and judging by Anadtech, the PC Mark Vantage overall score is one of the most real world tests you can get for an SSD. That being sad the OCZ Vertex 2 scored an impressive 36000 points in that test! also the overall write speeds are impressive so i'm thinking is that's my best bet, what do you guys think? does it worth to swap my current model with some of the higher end ones? would there be noticable difference?

My A-DATA S596 is ok for the price (95$) but im kinda turned off by its slow write speeds, i takes alot time to instal some game or program, in that segment its really slow so im looking for a replacment, but need some help on what to pick up even tough my fav for now is the Vertex 2.
 
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Thanks for your replay, but isn't the Crucial C300 also bad on write speeds (instaling games, programs etc)?
 
psyside said:
Thanks for your replay, but isn't the Crucial C300 also bad on write speeds (instaling games, programs etc)?
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well, at least for me I spent 99% of time playing games than installing :)

I'm not sure how much difference it can get for installing time in real world
 
Write speed is not important specially if you are getting 60/64GB SSD means you won't be doing much more than install OS and one or two game and application. compare to 110mb and greater write speed on SSD will take you about half the time than it would on 74mb write speed. but doing most of the writing once and using them over and over to read the 375mb read of crucial has advantage over 230/270mb of other SSDs(best for boot drive since loading done more than installing). if you want best of both world and since you didn't post budget PCI express is another way which will give you lightining speed over the others.
 
Thanks for the answers guys, lets say i get the Crucial C300 would it be noticable upgrade from the A-DATA S596, in what segment i would notice the most difference?

Sorry i'm new to SSD disks so my questions are kind off noobish :)
 
1st question (sorry not much info in your sig) do you have SATA III port on your motherboard? if not are you planning on buying expansion card with one?

if you've access to SATA III than the boot time and launching of application will be faster. not sure which S596 you've but considering both are SSD and unless you do intense gaming/other work which requires faster SSD/HD you won't find noticiable difference. windows boot time will be faster and games loading will be faster as well but for crucial over a-data the difference will be 4 second loading time on crucial compare to 5second on a-data.

so if that once second makes difference than yes it will be noticeable. my personal advice stay with a-data for now and wait 2-3 month for new technology before you upgrade.
 
i just picked up a G.Skill phoenix pro 120gb sandforce drive and i don't notice much difference between that and my intel 80gb x-25m G2 OS drive. I mean ssds are fast and i don
t see much real world difference unless your running a C300 on a sata3 port but i think all ssd's max out the sata 2 ports so i think its all moot. I would look for relibility and good garbage collection. for your OS ssd.
 
Thanks for the replays guys. So in short no use of high end SSD, expect for maybe general build quality (performance consistency) support, and longevity, but no real world performance gains. I think the best advice is to wait for new tech like scbjmshpv said.

Btw what high end SSD models are expected to see the light soon, i heard something about improved and very cheap GB/$ 25nm SSD-s coming in Q4 2010 or Q1 2011 is this true?

Oh and i got SATA II based mobo, guess ill must get an expansion card in future, do they proved the exactly same performance as a native SATA III?
 
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Ok lil update, its hard to play the wait game for me :(


Where i live is really hard to get an Vertex 2 or Corsair Force F60....

Crucial and Intel models, as well hard to find and even if i could order one they are not really good for write speed programs/games instalation which really pissed me off on the S596. So basically i'm looking for an Sandforce based disk (knowing they suite best for my needs) and have the most close read/write ratio as well as good reputation and generall quallity.


Now what i can get easy are this 2 models.

1.Patriot Inferno 60GB model - (PI60GS25SSDR)

2. A-DATA S599 64GB

Both of them Sandforce based disks as well. Now i'm quite confused seeing most of the reviews coming with amaizing numbers behind the S599, beating even the Corsair force and the Ocz Vertex 2

But..there are few of them who report lower scores, and inconsistent performance, and of top of that i read few Newegg users reviews who stated the same. Now in all fairness all of this drives share the same controler, yes i'm new to SSD but i learned that they should peform very similar to each other.

Now, i understand that firmware might be and issue or revision used in the tests, but still is this the only reason behind various performance reports?

BTW yes i know that the scores varies because of the compressable/uncompressable data used as test patern for some benchmarks software, like AS-SSD and CDM but i saw lower scores even in ATTO and HD Tune!? now im leaning toward the A-DATA S599 because its like 70 euros cheaper from the Patriot Inferno, but i dunno if its worth to risk and get bad revision or some of the random..lower performing units. Whats the difference from the first revision of A-DATA S599 and the second, if anyone know some info about it i would like to know.

Does Patriot Inferno series offer alot better reliability? does getting a better brand insure better unit knowing they use same controler but different firmware, most likely used? also there are 2 revisions of Patriot Inferno same as A-DATA S599...whats the difference for Patriot series as well? god damn it...

P.S. just look at this page for SSD disks comparation! how close is the A-DATA.. which make me even more confused, yes i compared the scores on all tests. All of the Sandforce based disks perform are the same, even the S599 used in the comparation is lower capacity disk 64 vs 120GB models.

http://www.ssdreview.com/ssd-review...series-e-f120-120gb-11a,a-data-s599-64gb-310/

http://www.ssdreview.com/ssd-review...b-11a,a-data-s599-64gb-310/pcmarkvantage.html


And yet, now look at this results..

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2010/06/25/sandforce-ssd-test/12 go figure...


P.P.S. Sorry for my english :)
 
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I have 7 ADATA S599 64GB's at this point and a few other Sandforce based SSDs along with a bunch of Intel X25-M G1, G2, X25-V and Indilinx based drives. Honestly, it is hard to tell the difference unless you hit a particular weakness of a controller.
 
pjkenned said:
I have 7 ADATA S599 64GB's at this point and a few other Sandforce based SSDs along with a bunch of Intel X25-M G1, G2, X25-V and Indilinx based drives. Honestly, it is hard to tell the difference unless you hit a particular weakness of a controller.
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Do you notice any difference while instaling programs or games? the Sandforce based disks should be very good at that segment, compared to the Intel, Indilinx or my awful Jmicron based S596 which totally sux in that segment. Its like having very slow HDD and really piss me off :(
 
psyside said:
Do you notice any difference while instaling programs or games? the Sandforce based disks should be very good at that segment, compared to the Intel, Indilinx or my awful Jmicron based S596 which totally sux in that segment. Its like having very slow HDD and really piss me off :(
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Not really but that's because I rarely install stuff and I haven't used anything but SSDs for a while now (OS and storage wise) so I'm probably just used to it.
 
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