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High Performance Video Cards

ikuto

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Are there any plans to shrink the size of video cards? I have a ATI 1900XT and it barely fits in my mid-tower and it gets hot and causes the fan noise increases significantly. Look at the new high end video cards from Nvidia and ATI, it is just too big unless i get a Full Sized ATX tower. CPUs have shrunk, are the video card manufacturers just milking the current technology? I certainly won't be purchasing as long as i can until they do something about this, if they ever will that is. What is everybody's take on this issue? Looks like history will repeat itself, 3DFX Voodoo 20000 in 2008 anyone?
 
I know what you mean regarding the sound of the 1900XT. It is insanely loud at even 50%. I went from a 1900XT to a 8800GTS thanks to a RMA, though, and I can tell you that it is silent compared to the 1900XT's fan. From what I've read, the 1950XT uses a different fan, so anything other than the 1900XT should be much quieter.
 
Look at the new high end video cards from Nvidia and ATI, it is just too big unless i get a Full Sized ATX tower.

Come on now, the 8800GTS isn't any longer that an ATX motherboard is wide, it will fit in any ATX case...
 
Are there any plans to shrink the size of video cards? I have a ATI 1900XT and it barely fits in my mid-tower and it gets hot and causes the fan noise increases significantly. Look at the new high end video cards from Nvidia and ATI, it is just too big unless i get a Full Sized ATX tower. CPUs have shrunk, are the video card manufacturers just milking the current technology? I certainly won't be purchasing as long as i can until they do something about this, if they ever will that is. What is everybody's take on this issue? Looks like history will repeat itself, 3DFX Voodoo 20000 in 2008 anyone?

um no?? my 8800 gts 320 runs with fan on 100% it idles at 62C or so and the card size is fine for my full tower
 
Well more performance requires more power which equals more heat requiring a bigger cooler. I don't think our appetite for better visuals and more performance will ever be satiated so we have to live with the fact that fast chips produce a lot of heat. If power consumption and size are important to you there are decent options on the market with very reasonable power requirements and form factors to choose from.
 
Well more performance requires more power which equals more heat requiring a bigger cooler.

Look at the C2D's. More efficient, slower clock speed and cooler running. Looks like ATI/NV could learn a thing from Intel.
 
Look at the C2D's. More efficient, slower clock speed and cooler running. Looks like ATI/NV could learn a thing from Intel.

Who is to say they aren't. Niether company is any were as big as intel nor do either one of them have their own fabs so progression takes time for them. Besides both companies are working on 65nm and 45 for future gpus.
 
Look at the C2D's. More efficient, slower clock speed and cooler running. Looks like ATI/NV could learn a thing from Intel.

Compare the performance delta between CPU generations and GPU generations - GPU performance is accelerating much faster than CPU performance. Also CPU's do a lot less work than a GPU. Then compare the amount of transistors dedicated to logic on a CPU to a GPU. A big chunk of a CPU die is just cache.

A big advantage that CPUs have is that these companies have the time and resources to design and tune them by hand. GPU's have typically been designed with the use of libraries (G80 broke this mold a little) which will not be as efficient as a hand-tuned design.

CPU companies typically have a process advantage - C2D is running on 65nm. Why not compare what Intel did on 90nm to what Nvidia and ATI have done on 90nm. Add all this up and I think you should reconsider your previous statement :)
 
Are there any plans to shrink the size of video cards? I have a ATI 1900XT and it barely fits in my mid-tower and it gets hot and causes the fan noise increases significantly. Look at the new high end video cards from Nvidia and ATI, it is just too big unless i get a Full Sized ATX tower. CPUs have shrunk, are the video card manufacturers just milking the current technology? I certainly won't be purchasing as long as i can until they do something about this, if they ever will that is. What is everybody's take on this issue? Looks like history will repeat itself, 3DFX Voodoo 20000 in 2008 anyone?

Well you can also look to silent solutions from companies like Asus. They have a few different solutions.
 
There are good points here about why CPUs are progressing at a different rate than GPUs. I have read that GPUs are more advanced than CPUs because they handle much more complex instructions. I just wish video card manufacturers would slow down and deliver video cards that are less demanding in power as they progress. I know they are competing with products at a scheduled pace with each other, but one day i would like one of them to deliver cool running video card, less power demanding, and a decent size. 1900XT is as huge as i am able to handle at the moment. When i say huge i mean the length of the card, the cooler will no doubt take up a PCI/PCIex slot. Maybe it's the design of my Li-Lian case, since the power cord from the video card is literally pushing against the power cable to my hard drive. I have to plug in the power to my video card and into the PCIex slot first, then slide the hard drive power cable with the little space left to fit.
 
Well you can also look to silent solutions from companies like Asus. They have a few different solutions.

Do you have an Asus sticker plastered on your forehead?

God forbid that you actually posted another brand name other than Asus.... :p
 
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