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High end headphones

mmooney86

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I'm looking for a enw set of headphones to replace my V600's (which have served me well). I'm deciding between Sennheiser HD650's and Sony CD3000. Anyone own these? Anyone know were in baltimore area I can go listen to them? Anyone here whos listened to both? I understand the general philosophical diffrence between the sony and sennheiser sound I just want to know how these models sound
 
Also the Senns are insanely efficent so I'm leaning towards them cause the greater effency tends to have a cleaner sound at higher spl due to having to use less drive. This is were I currently stand. Also Beyerdynamics? Grado? Im currently researching these two brands. Anything else in the $300-$1000 I should look at?
 
Last adding will be.... Grado RS1... Also any other model by these companies I should look at?
 
Being the owner of a (albeit lower-end) grado, I can say that if you like the sound of Klipschorns, then you'll like the sound of Grados. They prefer a brighter sound overall.
 
I think I'm gonna get the Sennheiser's.... Everywhere I look people are raving about the quality of the HD650s....
 
I don't know where you got the notion that Senn are efficient... 300ohms vs 32ohms for the CD3000's IIRC. The Senn's certainly aren't a bad choice, I like my pair a lot =]
 
mmooney86 said:
I think I'm gonna get the Sennheiser's.... Everywhere I look people are raving about the quality of the HD650s....

If you have a dedicated headphone amp, yes, the Senns are a good choice. Otherwise, you won't be able to drive them to their full potential. Look into the ATH-A900 if you won't be getting a headphone amp. However, with your budget, the Senns + upgraded cable + dedicated headphone amp is a great starter setup.
 
If the HD650 + upgraded cable + headphone amp is starter I'm afraid to ask what your running... Stax?
 
mmooney86 said:
If the HD650 + upgraded cable + headphone amp is starter I'm afraid to ask what your running... Stax?

If you do not have enough money for the hd650 and an amp, you could get an amp and hd580/600.

From what I read, some people seem to think that the 650's are not necessarily better, but different, and some will like them more. I havn't had a chance to try the hd650 yet though.

Do you already have a good source or money for one?
 
The 580/600/650 family is not efficient at all and needs a decent amp to start to get the most out of them.

You're looking at two entirely different sounding phones, the CD3k can be almost painfully bright if paired with a bright amp and while efficient enough, it needs an amp to get anywhere near it's potential. If no amp is planned for it, then save $100 and get an A900, that would sound better. The 3k has a huge soundstage and can have lots of impact when coupled with the right amp. Here's a thread on amps for it.
http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=90044&highlight=cd3k

The 580/600/650 are biased toward the darker side and are detailed, smooth and have a laid back presentation. If you're going to listen to classical or ambient then it's hard to beat, but IMO it's not very good with rock. I don't think it allows much energy into the music. With no amp, it's even more reserved(dull*) .

The Grados are more like the CD3k without the soundstage, some models are brighter than others... brightest- 325>125>60>80>rs-2>rs-1>225>ps-1-darkest...is the way it goes from what I gather. The whole line has lots of impact and is great for rock.
 
I love my 650s and I got a nice ass amp from MisterX that go really well together. see sig
 
Got back from a listening test of several high end senn models (no 650s but 600)... I really can't say I like the character it adds to the sound... I'm gonna stick sony and get the cd3ks.... ;-) no more v600
 
mmooney86 said:
Got back from a listening test of several high end senn models (no 650s but 600)... I really can't say I like the character it adds to the sound... I'm gonna stick sony and get the cd3ks.... ;-) no more v600

You'll find that the Sony sound signature between the v600 and the CD3k are complete opposites.
 
mmooney86 said:
I'm looking for a enw set of headphones to replace my V600's (which have served me well). I'm deciding between Sennheiser HD650's and Sony CD3000. Anyone own these? Anyone know were in baltimore area I can go listen to them? Anyone here whos listened to both? I understand the general philosophical diffrence between the sony and sennheiser sound I just want to know how these models sound

I think you answered yourself in your own question when you said "Anyone know where in baltimore area I can go listen to them".

Just like with speakers, headphones come down to what sounds best to YOU...not what someone else thinks sounds good! That's like asking someone what color car you should buy, it should be a individual choice.

[Side] Mustang_Steve, do you own a pair of Klipschorns? I own Cornwalls (industrial version), but believe it or not have never heard Klipschorns live. I'm in Ocala, if you own them, and wouldn't mind auditioning them for a stranger.... ;)
 
Nope I don't have them anymore. I restored a pair a few years abcck and kept them for a couple years. One of the best speakers I ever owned for music. The Klipschorns were not very well suited for big bass material though, like home theater...the 15" woofer just did not have the long excursion needed. Sadly I had to sell them as part of my sell-fest to afford to move to california five years ago.

I'm still waiting for the day I can get my hands on something similar to the Klipschorns again, or just a really good line array, similar to the early Infinity products.


Right now I just have some Partsexpress BR-1 kit speakers you can listen to....not bad at all for a $140 kit, but I still want more :)
 
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Wow Mustang, I think I'd sell my kids before I sold my Klipsch (JK)!

Have you ever heard the Carver Amazings? They were a serious contender when I went looking and ended up buying my Cornwalls. The Carvers were just shy IMHO of the Klipsch, far as "punch".
 
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