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Help with new setup

RTDSpector

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Hey im new to this whole liquid cooling thing if you can give me some insight that what would be great. These are the parts im looking at so far:

Thermaltake Shark
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Hydor L30 Inline Water Pump
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AquaXtreme MP-05 PRO Limited Edition Universal CPU Water Block ½" High Flow fittings
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or

D-Tek FuZion CPU Waterblock
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XSPC Dual 5.25" Bay Acrylic Reservoir
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ThermoChill PA120.3 3x120mm High Performance
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There are a few things i was wandering before i bought these parts ill just number them.

1. Are there any fittings i need and what size of tubing would you recommend for this setup?

2. Are these parts comptable with each other?

3. Where would a radiator that large even fit in that case? I'm having a hard time imagining where to mount it so any thoughts?

4. What fluid would you recommend?
 
PS.

My system specs are

Thermaltake Shark pc case
Intel q9450 stock 2.66ghz FSB 1333mhz
XFX 790i Ultra mobo
Corsair XM3 Dominator DDR3 1800mhz 8gb
2x WD Velociraptor
1000w kingwin mach1 modular psu
dvd burner
cd rom
5.25" Thermal Monitor
GPU's prolly going to SLI Geforce 280 GTX
AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1
 
Couple of suggestions,

Get a different rez, bay ones get very hard to work with, i would recommend a micro rez, or maybe a T line, both are much easier to work with. As for the pump, i would tell you to get a DD D-5, it is probably the best pump on the market. If you go with the D-Tek make sure to get the nozzle kit for quads.

1. Are there any fittings i need and what size of tubing would you recommend for this setup?
With a single loop you can get away with 1/2 tubing and fittings, or you can go with smaller 3/8 or 1/4, the difference will really be negligible.
2. Are these parts compatible with each other?
all of the parts are compatible, just ensure you get the same size fittings for them all.
3. Where would a radiator that large even fit in that case? I'm having a hard time imagining where to mount it so any thoughts?
Get a rad box and mount it out of the back of the case
http://www.subzeropcs.com/swiftech_rad_box_mcb120.html
4. What fluid would you recommend?
Either mix your own or Fluid XP
 
Does that radbox work with a 3x120mm radiator? How are the bay rez's harder to work with? Also i noticed you can get different sized barbs for some of the products does the choice of one over the other make a difference?
 
The rad box will just attach to one portion of the rad and so it should be a non-issue. Bay rez's are harder to work with because one when you have to fill, or bleed a system, there is no easy way to do it with a bay rez. Just because of how the fill port is placed on it as well as the locations, and in most cased you cant use screw-less to connect them so you have to unscrew and re-screw in them every time you need to wok on it. As for barbs, the big difference is the amount of flow that will be there between say a 1/4 vs. a 1/2. With just a single loop like you are doing and if you are tight on space go with 1/4 or 3/8ths barbs, but if you have alot of room then go with the 1/2, over all there is no major difference in them, can could even go with 3/8ths barbs and 1/4 tubing or 3/8ths tubing and 1/2 barbs use boiling water to heat the ends of the tube until they are soft and then push them onto the larger barbs, this will alleviate the need for clamp, although if you have any tight bends i would still clamp. The final thing to look for with your barbs is to make sure that the threading is correct for the item your wanting to use it on, there are only a few products that don't use G1/4 threads so you should be fairly safe there.
 
1. Are there any fittings i need and what size of tubing would you recommend for this setup?
Get the same sized barbs(fittings) for all of the components. 1/2" is pretty standard


2. Are these parts comptable with each other?
Yes. A lot more so if you have the same barbs.. ;)

3. Where would a radiator that large even fit in that case? I'm having a hard time imagining where to mount it so any thoughts?
I would venture to say that you would be able to fit that rad inside the case. Personally, i cant stand externally mounted radiators, but it can defiantly be mounted externally. Mounting kits are available at a lot of stores that stock watercooling parts, or do the [H] thing and make your own!

If you're going to mount internally, the top of the case is usually the best guess. i would suggest sifting through the Watercooled Case Gallery to find someone that has the same or similar case to yours. Also, try the Thermaltake Case Mod Gallery.

4. What fluid would you recommend?
Distilled water and additives to prevent algae and such, and UV dyes for color if you desire. IMO, FluidXP is a rip, if you must use an alternative I hear Feser 1 is the best way to go. Please realize that these aftermarket fluids are just distilled water that is premixed.


And as azuros suggested, you cant go wrong with a Dtek block and a Swiftech MCP655 (Laing D5) pump
 
Distilled water and additives to prevent algae and such, and UV dyes for color if you desire. IMO, FluidXP is a rip, if you must use an alternative I hear Feser 1 is the best way to go. Please realize that these aftermarket fluids are just distilled water that is premixed.

Agreed, it is not hard to mix your own water, my first build i used premixed and it is honestly a waste, make sure to get steam distilled water and do some searching there are a few mixing guilds on the internet that are really good, after your first run it gets really easy.
 
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