Help with my 1st LCD

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Valera

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Ok i have been using a 19" Viewsonic CRT for about a year but with my new 8800GTX video card I thought I would spoil myself with a 22" Wide LCD.

I got the Samsung 226BW and yes it looks amazing but I had some questions about this type of monitor I couldnt find answers elsewhere.

The color's are nice in games and windows apps but during playback of divx and dvd video I can see alot of blocking in the dark color areas...

is this a viewing angle issue?
a color or settings issue?
a normal thing general to LCD's?
 
Well, I'm not sure about DVD, but about DivX videos it might be due to stretching. You were used to 19" CRT and when you go to 22" LCD, there is slightly blocking since you're stretching the video even more from it's original size. But DVD should be ok, so I don't know on that one.

And no, is not viewing angle issue. Get your head in the center of the screen, and then start moving it to one size while looking at the screen. You'll notice that the colors get faded away. THAT is viewing angle issues, which is normal is LCDs though.
 
Odin75 said:
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...And no, is not viewing angle issue. Get your head in the center of the screen, and then start moving it to one size while looking at the screen. You'll notice that the colors get faded away. THAT is viewing angle issues, which is normal is LCDs though.
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Yes normal w/ TN panels, but not with S-IPS, unfortuantly for you, the samsung 226BW is a TN panel...
 
So do I want a S-IPS LCD instead of a TN ? I dont have alot of money to spend on the monitor are these S-IPS lcd expensive?

My main concern is the blocky look in the dark areas of the dvd movies...do this happen to anyone else ?
 
Valera said:
So do I want a S-IPS LCD instead of a TN ? I dont have alot of money to spend on the monitor are these S-IPS lcd expensive?
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Yes; yes they are. The Dell 2007WFP would be nice, if you got the S-IPS version. Alternatively, a monitor which uses some sort of VA panel might be a worthwhile compromise; the Viewsonic VX2025 or the inferior model of the 2007WFP which uses a P-MVA panel, i think. Although, i'm not sure if this sort of panel will solve your problems.
 
No, what you want is a Dell 2007WFP panel, that is used, so you can check for...dead pixels, banding, and of course weather or not it is an S-IPS! (You don't want a S-PVA) And buying it used saves about $150, and the resolution on the Dell 2007 (which is a 20.1") is the same as your Samsung, aka it looks AWSOME!
 
First off thanks guys for all the help so I have one last thing to ask for assistance with.

I returned my 226BW cause of some probs with it I didnt like.(full refund) so I am back to square one. Now I have wasted my whole day reading these forums (wow you guys talk alot lol) and have decided to ask for advice on 1 of 3 monitors.

Ok cost is important and these monitors at around my budget, also I do not want a 24" cause my video card is a 8800GTS 320MB and i dont want to buy a 640MB cause in canada they are over 150 bucks more so the 16XX by 10XX is my res cap.



1) HP W2207 I like the glossy look but everyone says TN are bad.

2) Dell 2007WFPT from the dell website....are all of these S-IPS or are some TN I dunno and the website says it is 16ms typical response....is this bad i though response rates this high would give ghosting and bad for gaming.

3)Dell E228WFP Same cost as the 2007WFPT and i really like the 22" format but people say its a TN so thats bad.


Its really hard buying an LCD and I want to move to them and free my desk from 300lbs of crt I just need what is going to be best for gaming and dvd playback, and is gonna last me a long time because I cant afford these upgrades every year like some [H] people :eek:)

Thanks again for any help you can give :eek:)
 
IMO I would go with the Dell 2007WFP, I have one, and it is truly bigger than you probably think it would be. There is almost NO ghosting (I say almost b/c all monitors have some sort of ghosting) The "ghosting" that is there is completely unnoticable to the bare eye, and only show up in tests (this is assuming you have an A03 or A04, S-IPS)

I notice NO response issues w/ my dell (as I am playing it on my 360) I honestly think it is the best bang for you buck (expecially if you buy used! That way you can make sure that it has no dead pixels, that it has no banding, and that it is an S-IPS panel! And it saves you about $150!)

Well there is MY opinion, and to be honest, above being better (graphically) it looks hella awsome!
 
Well, he has been using CRT for a while. If he is picky enough, he might notice the 16ms response time in an LCD, but most people don't. I mean, I don't notice the difference between the crappy LCD's we use in school, and the good 2ms I use at home. But yeah, there is still the people that claim they can see it. But it's almost impossible, only during tests like BIGJ said.
 
well what confuses me is i read the w2207 thread and they are all this one rocks better then my dell xxxx one or I read the dell xxxx thread and they say the opposite and its hard to get a solid oppinion.

The only monitor I am able to buy locally and physically see is the HP monitor or basically anything at Futureshop.ca or Staples.ca so its hard for me to just walk to a store and see these Dells.

Also buying used monitors where and how is this done? Can i do this on the dell website...i really dont like buying from a random user via the internet basically afraid of scams and no ability for warrenty or return.
 
Valera said:
well what confuses me is i read the w2207 thread and they are all this one rocks better then my dell xxxx one or I read the dell xxxx thread and they say the opposite and its hard to get a solid oppinion.
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I think the main reason why people favour the HP over the Dell is due to the vibrancy and crispness of colour produced by the former due to its glossy screen. With the 2007WFP you either get an S-IPS or S-PVA monitor, both better than their TN counterparts (i.e. the Dell E228WFP or HP w2207). However, if you're gaming, you might not even notice the difference between the panel technologies so, if you think the HP looks good in the store, chances are you'd be fine with a TN monitor.
 
Valera said:
well what confuses me is i read the w2207 thread and they are all this one rocks better then my dell xxxx one or I read the dell xxxx thread and they say the opposite and its hard to get a solid oppinion.

The only monitor I am able to buy locally and physically see is the HP monitor or basically anything at Futureshop.ca or Staples.ca so its hard for me to just walk to a store and see these Dells.

Also buying used monitors where and how is this done? Can i do this on the dell website...i really dont like buying from a random user via the internet basically afraid of scams and no ability for warrenty or return.
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There aren't any Dell kiosks at your local mall? If so, give it a go there.
 
No local Dell shops near me all I can do is order from the Dell.ca website....Im leaning towards the 2007WFP but the 16ms response still has me confused...wont this cause ghosting problems in my games and video?
 
If memory serves me correctly, that 16ms is black to black rating. Their gray to gray should be lower and thus would be on par with a lot of other manufacturers' specs. Essentially there will always be ghosting on LCDs but nowadays it isn't really noticeable until you start looking for it. ;)

The best thing to do is really not to worry too much about all the discrepancies in specs you read about on these forums or anywhere on the Internet. The only thing I checked for when I got my LCD was dead pixels. Once that was over I never looked for anything else again. It wasn't until I did more research that I noticed I do have ghosting and some slight backlight bleeding on my monitor. I even later found out that I have a TN panel too. Haha! Still, it hasn't detracted from my overall experience with the monitor in general and I'm still very happy moving away from my CRT.

So what I'm trying to say is that you'll be happy no matter what in the end. :) And if you go with the Dell 2007WFP, you're going to be getting a technically superior panel whether if it ends up being an MVA or IPS panel. Enjoy it! :cool:
 
While your original monitor might have been bad or something, I don't think that was the cause of your problem with divx movies. Divx, like almost all codecs, works by putting things into squares. Your CRT was probably old and was blending all the blacks and dark grays together (I know mine does). Also, most video codecs aren't that good with the darker colors...there is usually a large difference between black and darkest-gray. So, do not be surprised if you get the same thing again.
 
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