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Help with adding more speakers.

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CaNNoN

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Hello everyone.

I need to input on setting up more speakers for surround sound. I want to use a stereo receiver to hook up to the PC and then, in ADDITION to my logitech Z5300 5.1 speakers, i want to add like 4 more surround speakers and another sub. Pretty much i want speakers all around my work station in 360 degrees of surround sound. I also want to make sure it is directed correctly as far as sound positioning. If something happens behind me in game, i want to hear it from the speakers behind me etc etc.

Please give suggestions as to what i could use to get this project going.

Im not too shabby on hookin stuff up, but i am a n00b when it comes to stereo equipment and using it with a PC. So all advice and link to learning etc are VERY welcomed.

Current setup is

Logitech Z5300 5.1 speakers
Creative SB audigy 2 Zs Plat Pro sound card
Rig in Sig.

thanks

Nate
 
Why do you want to use 2 sets of surrounds? Look up and understand "phase cancellation"; this is not a good idea.

 
i dont want 2 sets, i want 1 BIG HUGE surround setup. I want to be fully immersed in surround sound.

I will, however look up and read about this "phase cancellation" you spoke of.

Do you see a way i could ADD TO my speaker system without actually creating a second surround system. You see i just want more speakers to add to my system.

EDIT: ok found some great info on phase cancellation. link here http://www.sfu.ca/sca/Manuals/ZAAPf/p/phase.html

Now i see what you mean. I dont want them running seprately. I want all the speakers on the same wave length or thesame channels. I just want like 2 speakers per channel instead of just 1. See what im gettin at?
 
Okay, here's the issue. Sound has a certain wavelength, right? So suppose you get your speakers placed _just_ wrong, so they're doing this from your point of view:
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They're doing exactly the same thing, but one's a little farther than the other, so they cancel. Then you won't hear any of that frequency at all. That isn't all; suppose you realize this and move one speaker precisely right to fix it. Now the original frequency will line up, but there will be another frequency that won't.

This frequency mostly affects higher frequencies; the speed of sound is about 330 m/s in air, so if you're a foot (1/3 meter) off in placement it affects 990 Hz, 1980 Hz, 2970 Hz, and every multiple from then up. If it's eight inches (2/9 meter), it'd be 1485 Hz and multiples.

Basically, the only good way to add to a speaker system is get bigger speakers, not more. A set of bookshelves would decimate that set for small rooms. If you want to build your own full-size movie theater, it's gonna take a lot more than that.

 
To get better quality sound,more immersion you want to ...REPLACE your Logitech Z5300 speakers.Not add anything to them.

You see the Logitech Z5300 are very colored speakers and not at all accurate.The sats add major colorations in the midrange as well as being cut very high.The Z5300 bass module is a one notey band pass unit,not reaching very deep but adding alot of colorations to the sound.


I would look at the Klipsch 5.1Ultra or Creative GigaWorks S750(7.1 if you must have extra sourround speakers).Both cklearly surpass the Z5300 in every aspect of audio reproduction.



After this you have separates,and can reach new audio quality heights.But you also have a much higher price attached to all this goodness.
 
Like the others have said, don't add, just replace. You won't be able to get more than 5.1 channels(or 7.1, depending on your hardware) out of your computer no matter how many speakers you hook up(at least not without reworking just about every piece of the system, including games, drivers, operating system, sound hardware, etc.). If you are running multiple speakers on the same channel then you could indeed run into phasing problems and it would probably sound bad, even though it may be louder. If you really want better sound then I would just skip computer speakers altogether and go for some two- or three-way bookshelf speakers all around, or maybe even some monitors. Also, you won't be able to use your stereo receiver; you'll need a surround sound receiver if you want surround sound. It won't be cheap, but it'll be a hell of a lot better than what you have now.
 
Wow, thanks a lot guys. I get it now. Got a lot of reading done and i have a much better understanding now. Just reading about phase calcellation really educated me on a lot of audiop aspects!

I think im gonna go the surround sound receiver route with some good media speakers.

Thanks again.
 
yes. thats how i take it.

in this case, More doesnt = better. Bigger, does, better quality does, but more, just doesnt lol.

Whod-uh-thunk it :D
 
CaNNoN said:
I think im gonna go the surround sound receiver route with some good media speakers.
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You won't regret it. :)
 
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