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Help, very poor FPS.

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Radeon 5650m, 1GB ram
and
i3-370m integrated.

Had these games for months and been playing fine with playable FPS.

Games like Planetside 2 and L4D2 been getting low frame rates lately after I uninstalled some program by mistake and couldn't restore so I decided to do a fresh OS install after I my recovery media seems corrupted and I can't get replacement from HP.

Ran Unigine Heaven Benchmark and still seeing around 5 fps on both Intel's and AMD's GPUs
Ran a quick V-ram check and looks fine but will run full check over night.
Videos run fine and I don't see any signs of display errors.
GPU temps are around 130f, but I'm still doing heavy configuring setting up the notebook.

AFAIK I installed all the drivers. Can anyone think of something that might be the problem before I take the notebook apart to check the dual heatpipe?

It is a single fan that has a heatpipe each going to the GPU and another to the CPU, fan is working fine. Thought it might have been a loose connect on the GPU HS til I ran the intel GPU.

 
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Well... Planetside 2 is a decently speced game and you have a 5650 with first gen i3 which by todays standards are pretty slow... I would upgrade because I don't see anyway to improve you performance..
 
Seems like laptop can't handle. You need decent desktop to play that game.
 
Yeah, as others have mentioned, Planetside 2 is a fairly demanding game and it is a poorly optimized one at that. Even many desktops have issues with it due to poor optimization at 1080p. Your laptop is probably just not cut out for it.

Not sure about L4D2.
 
I been playing these games fine, but started running like crap a week ago after I done playing a few days of MechCommander2, thought I un-installed something by mistake but did a clean install of the OS after I couldn't restore the system from a previous state.
 
Are you sure you are running the 5650? I had a laptop with a 5650m switchable to another AMD onboard 4250 solution and it was a HUGE pain in the butt to actually get it to switch. You HAVE to install the drivers from the laptop vendor and not AMD. For a long time I was running the onboard video because the regular AMD drivers (even the "detect my gpu" drivers) didn't see the 5650 and installed just for the 4250.

AMD switchable graphics are the worst experience I have ever had with any driver, across any part of any computing system I have.. ever.. owned. Even when it worked, it didn't. It left such a bad taste in my mouth that I went complete 180 to being a huge AMD radeon fan, to making the decision to never purchase another AMD gpu again.
 
Yeah. I was thinking the same thing but didn't really want to say it. I'll just say that Kepler winning over 90% of ultrabook/portable Ivy/Haswell with dGPU designs wasn't really surprising to me for the very reasons you mentioned. Optimus always works, AMD's mobility drivers stuff are just. Not good. Well you summed it up nicely. I really do hope now that AMD is making money that they can invest it into their software engineering. They really NEED more people working on software, because the best hardware in the world is always bunk without good software to back it up. IMHO.
 
xoleras said:
Yeah. I was thinking the same thing but didn't really want to say it. I'll just say that Kepler winning over 90% of ultrabook/portable Ivy/Haswell with dGPU designs wasn't really surprising to me for the very reasons you mentioned. Optimus always works, AMD's mobility stuff is just. Well you summed it up nicely.
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People complain up and down about how one sides drivers are bad. They are usually talking about little things like "forcing MSAA on X game wouldn't render correctly". My experience with the switchable graphics drivers were "they just dont work".

They would install but wouldn't recognize my card. They would only install on a certain update on windows 7 and if you updated windows, it would literally break the driver to the point where catalyst control center wouldn't even recognize that you had switchable graphics and default you to the onboard graphics with no option to switch.

Because the only drivers you could get were from the laptop vendor, you were at the mercy of their release schedule of 2 driver versions total over the lifepan (see 1 year) of the video card model.. at least until amd overlclocked it by 40mhz, added a 1 to the first numeber, and called it a new gpu.

AMD has specific drivers for my card. You can do a search and come up with my exact model of GPU, but when you install it, the only thing the package will install is the Catalyst Control Center for your onboard graphics, and HDMI audio (if you were lucky, they even managed to fuck that up in the driver package and often times you would get an error message every time you booted reminding you that it didnt install correctly).
 
All PC specs confirmed.
HP dv6-3143us
-i3-370m
-8GB RAM
-AMD 5650m 1GB RAM

Video driver are confirmed.
Windows 7 x86/x64 8.771.1.0 (AMD)
8.15.10.2189 (Intel SG)
7.11.0.7706 (HDMI Audio) 03 Nov 2010 CVA, HTML
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp50501-51000/sp50640.exe
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Also HAD the x64 reference drivers installed BUT UN-INSTALLED after no improvement.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-hp-dv6-3xxx-dv7-4xxx-envy-17-1xxx-intel.html

I have done basic HP recovery that just includes OS and HP driver and minimum software without 3rd party bloat under 1/2a dozen times with all recommended driver for this system and have been fine.
 
I had no issues with the switchable graphics on this LT the years I owned it.
But still you would think the intel GPU can atleast give you more than 10FPS on a low setting benchmark so I doubt it is a hardware failure.
AFAIK, I'm ruling out temp throttling and ruling out hardware problems since it's on both GPUs, so I'm thinking it has to be software unless some hardware the both GPU use?
But, the thing is I'm just getting poor frame rate, no distortions , no glitches.

Only notice after I been trying out some Desktop Gadgets for monitoring GPU/CPU stats on the old OS build but decide to stick with my rainmeter stats.
 
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8.15.10.2189 (Intel SG) <----- Intel video drivers.
7.11.0.7706 (HDMI Audio) <----- AMD hdmi audio drivers.

Go to your device manager and look for the graphics card there. You will probably only see the intel HD graphics.
 
lloose said:
8.15.10.2189 (Intel SG) <----- Intel video drivers.
7.11.0.7706 (HDMI Audio) <----- AMD hdmi audio drivers.

Go to your device manager and look for the graphics card there. You will probably only see the intel HD graphics.
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K, im stumped now. If nothing else feel greatful that you can at least get yours to show up in device manager.
 
Going to try re downloading all drivers just in case there was a corruption some where and if that doesn't work see if I can make a working copy of my recovery DVDs that a imaged some time ago.
And hopefully this is not a hardware issue. :(
 
hajalie24 said:
Are you in power saving mode by any chance?
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haha, no. 1st thing I checked, along w/ gfx power setting in the CCC and intel's control panel.

Currently running Video Memory Stress Test but won't be done til morning, 7am GMT.
1h 15mins in and no errors so far.
Nite all...
 
cyclone3d said:
You are running really old video drivers.

Newest Intel video for your system:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=23377&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20(64-bit)*&DownloadType=%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09Drivers%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09

Newest AMD/ATI for your system:

http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/amd_catalyst_13_30_beta_%2813_300_january_8%29.html
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Unless those are specifically for switchable graphics, the AMD driver wont work. He has to get them directly from the laptop vendor.
 
lloose said:
Unless those are specifically for switchable graphics, the AMD driver wont work. He has to get them directly from the laptop vendor.
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People have been reporting that they work with switchable graphics.
 
Looks like my GPU is stuck at 100mhz.
Looking in to it. Seeing posts about if Power Play is disabled it causes problems.

Yep, it was Power Play being disabled keeping the clock stuck.

Wished I found this earlier, would've save me the trouble from clean installing everything.:mad:
 
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