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Razmo

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Guys,

Excuse any ignorance here, but I'm trying to determine how capable my system is, which seems to be suffering in a few areas. I've downloaded both PCmark 7 and 3Dmark 11.

My system details:

Display - NEC 2690WUXI (1920x1200 native)
OS- Windows 7 (64bit)
CPU-Core i7 950 (stock cooler for now)
HD- OZC Vertex II 120gb
RAM-12gb Corsair Dominator
MB- MSI Big Bang XPower (recent BIOS) (not overclocked yet)
PSU- Corsair 1200w PSU
GPU -x2 Nvidia GTX 480 SC in SLI (stock coolingg for now)

I figure my only bottle neck should be my CPU, but still figure she should scream. I run a rather graphically intense R/C simulator which bogs down when I activate smoke and or when the model is producing exhaust.

Anyhelp would be mucho appreciated..

Thanks,
Raz

Anyhow, My PCmark Score was 4299 and my 3Dmark score was 0. I noticed the 3Dmark benchtest was unwatchable as the screen flashed consistently
 
Also, my Windows Experience Index Score is 7.8..
Processor - 7.8
Memory - 7.9
Graphics - 7.9
Gaming Graphics- 7.9
Hard Disk - 7.9
 
You shouldn't be suffering at all with that setup. And not have a bottleneck in the least.

I have a similar setup, and it screams.


7.9 is the maximum WEI score
 
HeavensCloud said:
Disable SLI, update game, update driver.
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Are you suggesting that I disable SLI for running 3Dmark? Also, should I be able to see the video or is it normal for it look as if I need 3D glasses?? From what I can see, it shows very slow FPS, between 18 and 20 or so while running.

I've been using a single GTX 480 SC for several months, it produced the same lag when smoke and exhaust are present, that is why I thought to install another GTX480.

However, I didn't update the video drivers. My current driver is 275.33 and the latest seems to be 285.62. I'd be surprised to find that this is where the source of my trouble is..??

Raz
 
Razmo said:
Guys,

Excuse any ignorance here, but I'm trying to determine how capable my system is, which seems to be suffering in a few areas. I've downloaded both PCmark 7 and 3Dmark 11.

My system details:

Display - NEC 2690WUXI (1920x1200 native)
OS- Windows 7 (64bit)
CPU-Core i7 950 (stock cooler for now)
HD- OZC Vertex II 120gb
RAM-12gb Corsair Dominator
MB- MSI Big Bang XPower (recent BIOS) (not overclocked yet)
PSU- Corsair 1200w PSU
GPU -x2 Nvidia GTX 480 SC in SLI (stock coolingg for now)

I figure my only bottle neck should be my CPU, but still figure she should scream. I run a rather graphically intense R/C simulator which bogs down when I activate smoke and or when the model is producing exhaust.

Anyhelp would be mucho appreciated..

Thanks,
Raz

Anyhow, My PCmark Score was 4299 and my 3Dmark score was 0. I noticed the 3Dmark benchtest was unwatchable as the screen flashed consistently
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Does it have a name?
 
HeavensCloud said:
Disable SLI, update game, update driver.
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Okay, well the graphics driver update seemed to help the 3dmark playback, but performance seems very weak...By the way, this is using the extreme 1920x1080p. I'm actually running 1920x1200..

Capture11-21-11.png
 
Guys,

These are very weak scores for my configuration, right? Also, I noticed that 3Dmark doesn't like it when SLI is enabled?? The video flashes blue/black, blue/black, etc, yet still showing an image. When I disable SLI, I don't have this problem but the above scores are what I get...???

Raz
 
Make sure you ahve your GPU's in the right slots on that motherboard.

They're all pci-16 size, but some of them only support single lanes.
 
Can anyone comment on my posted 3Dmark 11 results? I'm not too sure how to interpret them, other than the FPS results. I would assume these results are showing a rather significant bottleneck somewhere, correct?

Thanks,
Raz
 
Razmo said:
Can anyone comment on my posted 3Dmark 11 results? I'm not too sure how to interpret them, other than the FPS results. I would assume these results are showing a rather significant bottleneck somewhere, correct?

Thanks,
Raz
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Just a question but does your motherboard require the SLI bridge? Also I seem to remember the last time I did a 3D Mark benchmark with SLI, I had to specify SLI in the 3D Mark settings.
 
NoOther said:
Just a question but does your motherboard require the SLI bridge? Also I seem to remember the last time I did a 3D Mark benchmark with SLI, I had to specify SLI in the 3D Mark settings.
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If you're referring to the Video Link Cable (connecting each card at the top), my MB came with a set. Also the MSI manual says to use one, which I am. I don't seem to be having any trouble enabling SLI, seems to be working.

Raz
 
Razmo said:
Yeah, the R/C sim is Aerofly 5.5 http://www.ikarus.net/index.php/de/
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Recommended

- Intel Core 2 Duo or AMD Athlon 64 X2
- OpenGL Version 3.1 compatible 3D-graphics card from NVDIA
or ATI with 512 MB. At least as fast as NVIDIA GeForce 8800 or
ATI Radeon HD4850
- For optimum sound quality we recommend a high quality
stand-alone PCI soundcard, e.g. Creative Audigy


your having trouble running that?

Something else is wrong then.
 
By the way, the above test report was run with SLI disabled. With SLI enabled. the video flashes black/blue, black/blue, throughout the entire testing process.

Raz
 
happymedium said:
Recommended

- Intel Core 2 Duo or AMD Athlon 64 X2
- OpenGL Version 3.1 compatible 3D-graphics card from NVDIA
or ATI with 512 MB. At least as fast as NVIDIA GeForce 8800 or
ATI Radeon HD4850
- For optimum sound quality we recommend a high quality
stand-alone PCI soundcard, e.g. Creative Audigy


your having trouble running that?

Something else is wrong then.
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Yeah, it's driving me crazy. It's really the only program I use at this time. Thanks for looking into that. Any thoughts regarding my test results? I'm unsure of what they are telling me..



Raz
 
DO some trouble shooting.

Try one card only and then the other ,you might have a bad card.
Your pci-e slot might be bad.
reseat both cards and all 4 power connectors
uninstall all nvidia drivers and reinstall the latest ones

Make sure you have the latest direct x 9 from Microsoft.

.
monitor your cads temps with Msi afterburner.
is there a sli profile for 3d mark?

run 3d mark @ standard settings.

Your test scores suck.
 
happymedium said:
DO some trouble shooting.

Try one card only and then the other ,you might have a bad card.
Your pci-e slot might be bad.
reseat both cards and all 4 power connectors
uninstall all nvidia drivers and reinstall the latest ones

Make sure you have the latest direct x 9 from Microsoft.

.
monitor your cads temps with Msi afterburner.
is there a sli profile for 3d mark?

run 3d mark @ standard settings.

Your test scores suck.
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Some good idea's, thanks. I have been tinkering with the flight sim. With SLI enabled it is providing better performance, which tells me the SLI is working. However, the above results with SLI disabled says enough, wouldn't you say?

For some reason, when SLI is enabled and running 3Dmark 11 benchmarking, my display video flashes blue/black consitently, it's strange. I don't have this problem when is SLI disabled. No, I see no SLI profile.
 
Okay guys, some news..

I was able to complete 3Dmark bench testing with SLI enabled even though the display flashes blue/black. I chose the basic preset Extreme (X) at 1920x1080p. Ran Full 3DMark 11 Experience.

3DmarkSLIenabled1080p.png


This is the same test with SLI disabled..

3DmarkSLIdisabled1080p.png


I took some temperature readings. at full load, both GPUs are pumping out 150 degree air temps. The cards themselves are about 115 degrees.

Let me know what you guys think..

Raz
 
Well it definitely appears like SLI is working. How did it compare to like systems?
 
What are your cards clocked at (check gpu-z to make sure as you can get false readings with some overclock software as it will tell you what you have it set at and not what it is actually running at)? Are they set a bit high a downclocking during 3d apps? Are they for sure switching over to 3d clock speeds when you start a test or game? 65 degrees celsius is a pretty good temp for the 470 w/ full load and stock cooling. If the above is correct I would then pull one card completely out of the system and see how it performed with just the one 470. And then pull that card out to do the same with the next. A single 470 SHOULD eat that game alive.
 
Fixall said:
What are your cards clocked at (check gpu-z to make sure as you can get false readings with some overclock software as it will tell you what you have it set at and not what it is actually running at)? Are they set a bit high a downclocking during 3d apps? Are they for sure switching over to 3d clock speeds when you start a test or game? 65 degrees celsius is a pretty good temp for the 470 w/ full load and stock cooling. If the above is correct I would then pull one card completely out of the system and see how it performed with just the one 470. And then pull that card out to do the same with the next. A single 470 SHOULD eat that game alive.
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Actually, they are 480's, both are the Super Clocked versions. Will GPU-Z illustrate whether the cards are downclocking during 3D apps or whether they are switching (or maintaining) 3D clock speeds when the Sim is started. I can certainly give GPU-Z a try. I simply wasn't sure I would be able to interpret it's results ;)..

Regarding the simulator itself. I am noticing performance enhancements with SLI enabled while simulating in what they call 4D scenes. However, when I activate smoke, the system crawls. Something like from a solid 60FPS (with vSync enabled) to a sputtering 15FPS or so.

Regardless, I can only assume from the reports above, illustrate that my system is showing signs of a having a bottleneck somewhere. I would have expected far better results, unless I'm misunderstanding something...?

I'm wondering if it's my MB at this point? Could a BIOS update be the source here? She has all had all available driver updates. I did update the BIOS to the latest version, which was about 6months ago since my install 12gb of memory was giving me trouble, which the BIOS update cured. However, they look to have released a couple others since.

Raz
 
Thanks Happy ;) I am running the latest version, but had no idea it's supposed to fix 4D compatibility with Nvidia cards.

I'll give the BIOS update a try, but I fear it isn't going to help..I hope I'm wrong ;)

Raz
 
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