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help! my psu went boom

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Render

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i was on my pc just now, went to get a drink of water and my room smelled like fire, especially the psu

now on the motherboard there is a flashing green light when the PSU is on + plugged in

the computer will not start

is everything dead if the pc was off (but psu still on)?

or is everything gone...

specs in sig id appreciate any help
 
It really depends on how the psu failed. As posted by gee:
gee said:
It depends on what part of the power supply fails.

When the line section of the power supply has a failure - eg, input rectifier, PFC, main switching transistors, primary side drive, etc... usually the supply fails with a spectacular BANG but doesn't take any computer components with it.

If the output section of your power supply fails (secondary side rectifiers, magamp, output capacitors, control circuitry, etc)... normally you end up with a quiet but stinky failure, and dead computer hardware.

The Powmax supplies i've encountered invariably blow their primary side... the undersized transformer saturates, main transistor current goes too high, main transistors blow, and the supply drops dead without harming anything. This is the only good thing I can say about that company. :D

Deer supplies, with secondary side rectifiers stupidly-fucking-formed by soldering axial diodes to a metal heatsink... those almost always kill computers. I've seen holes blown in motherboard chipsets due to deer supplies...
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http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1027524985&postcount=19
 
wow i guess im in luck? the computer was working fine all day it was just random. is this normal? :confused:

also i ordered from zzf would they replace it or what do i do now? :confused:

yes it was very loud, since i heard it on the flour below, but smelled like fire :rolleyes:

i really hope the rest of my 1600 $ PC lives

also if it were a bad psu would that explain som of the stability issues i was having? like bf2 randomly exitting wen temps were fine (60C on the gtx)?

thanks for the reply! im feeling better already :) as this was my first build EVER and it scred the crap outa me
 
Render said:
wow i guess im in luck? the computer was working fine all day it was just random. is this normal? :confused:
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Well any component "blowing up" is not normal

also i ordered from zzf would they replace it or what do i do now? :confused:
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WIth ZZF I am not sure and return policies vary from retailer to retailer. CHeck your invoice and ZZF's website along with the PSU manufacturer's.



also if it were a bad psu would that explain som of the stability issues i was having? like bf2 randomly exitting wen temps were fine (60C on the gtx)?
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It could but without knowing a lot more I can't say for sure. So maybe :)

thanks for the reply! im feeling better already :) as this was my first build EVER and it scred the crap outa me
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Don't sweat it things blowing up scare all of us.
 
Oh yeah. Power supplies blow up all of the time.

But if they're certain brands, we often forgive them. ;)

The flashing LED is probably because the PSU is providing +5VSB, but perhaps no sense leads.

The only way to know for sure if anything survived is if you have another power supply to put in there. Go for it.

Another thing you can do is look/smell around the motherboard for burns, etc.
 
thanks for all the input!

bf2 was fun while it lasted tho! all of 2 1/2 hrs worth


my parents are mad and are like send everything back! we told you so! so that made me really angry

but if its only the psu i think il return it and get a modular 1 so that all the extra wires arent there...my wire hiding was horible..
 
Render said:
thanks for all the input!

bf2 was fun while it lasted tho! all of 2 1/2 hrs worth


my parents are mad and are like send everything back! we told you so! so that made me really angry

but if its only the psu i think il return it and get a modular 1 so that all the extra wires arent there...my wire hiding was horible..
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Crap! I wish I had photos uploaded. Modular isn't necessarily the way to go. I did a build for a guy and routed all of the wires underneath the board. After having done that, I'm now about 90% of the way of doing that with my A64 build... :p

NO cables still look better than SOME cables. ;)
 
well it was my first ever build...but the tsunami case looks nice sitting here :rolleyes:

wow my parents are being stubborn...your not allowed 2 plug another psu in 2 c if its jst the psu that died :rolleyes: there could be a short on the mobo...yea thats y it worked for like 43 hrs...arrite i need 2 get info on this so i can PROVE it was infact the psu cuz my dad thinks he knows more than me about computers (hes tech illiterate)

any help/links would be apreciated and maybe help this beast start all over again

Another thing you can do is look/smell around the motherboard for burns, etc.
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the motherboard looks clean is that a good sign? it seems as if only the psu got the damage i cant check (dont have extra psu)
 
It is EXTREMELY unlikely that a short on the mobo would cause a PSU to blow up in such a spectacular fashion. In all likelihood, it was the PSU itself. Enermax makes excellent PSU's , but all of the PSU companies will have a bad unit from time to time. I put an antec neopower in my system a few days ago, and it was DOA. Went back, got a new one, and it works just fine. If you do go for a modular, I recommend the Antec Neopower 480. It's probably plenty of power for your system, is modular, and if you get a bad unit will probably just fail to power up at all, instead of going boom.

So, for your parents, have them read this line: IT IS UNLIKELY that a motherboard would cause a PSU to die. It's the other way around 99+% of the time. If, for some reason you do not want to get another enermax to put in the system, try an Antec, PC Power & Cooling, or Fortron Source (Sparkle) PSU. All of these are reliable brands. There should be no problem plugging another handy PSU into the current machine to test it. This is probably the first thing a repair person would do anyway. The odds of the mobo blowing the PSU, while not zero, are in the one-in-a-thousand to one-in-a-ridiculous-number range.

In fact, the odds that crappy wiring in the house blew the PSU are probably higher, especially if the house is brand new, or very old.
 
yes that is the psu i was looking at replacing it with...now do i call up zzf and talk 2 them about what happened? what do i say? the power supply was faulty? or do i call up enermax
 
Sunborder said:
In fact, the odds that crappy wiring in the house blew the PSU are probably higher, especially if the house is brand new, or very old.
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Amen to that.

One time I was rolling out workstations and monitors into wired-cubicles.

You know how cubicles have their own matrix of power cables? Apparently someone had a terminal loose or shorted or something. I plugged the PC in and there was a weird humming/buzz/hiss coming from the PSU. These PC's all worked back at home base. I plugged in the monitor and immediately heard a pop coming from it. I jumped back and before I had a chance to pull the plug on the PC, I heard a pop come from the PSU. :(

Freaking Union county workers. :(
 
I woulc call up ZZF first, tell them that the PSU that they sent you was faulty, specifically, that it blew up within the first 4 hours (or whatever the timeframe was), basically, just enough time to heat up.

Tell them that you would like to return it for a refund, rather than RMA (replacement), as you have had your confidence shaken in that brand (whether or not that is true, it's what you're probably going to have to say to get a refund instead of a replacement). Then go ahead and order the Antec online.
 
that sounds good, but id like 2 order the next psu somewhere local (so if it blows up again i can return it quickly + 2 c if everythin else is fried) is there a good chance my other components lived?

do i have 2 send the psu back 2 zzf since its dead?
 
So do it like I said, but skip the part where you order the Neopower from ZZF and go buy local.

In fact, go buy local now, then work it out with ZZF later. The worst that can happen is that you will get an RMA'd Enermax as a backup PSU in case one of your machines dies. Most likely ZZF will refund your purchase after grumbling a bit. Either way your system is up and running soon.
 
is the only difference btwn the TP 2.0 480 + neopower 480 that neo is modular?

o and does best buy carry antec neopower 480?
 
No, for starters the TPII actually has a slightly beefier 12v2 rail. 18amps vs 15 amps.

Having said that, unless you are planning on slapping a dozen hard drives, doing SLI and running in a case made entirely of case fans, either one will have plenty of power. I prefer the modular cables, as my thermal sensors on my mobo are unreliable......so I want the lowest possible temps, just in case.
 
will a TP 2.0 430 be enough power for the system in my sig...i jst picked 1 up locally
 
It should be fine. If you go the SLI route, you might want to upgrade it, but I really am not qualified to speak about SLI, so ask again at that time. I was running my main rig of an antec 380w single 23v rail PSU, so that should be fine.

Having said that, the important thing is the 12v rails, moreso that the total wattage.
 
yes! nothing fried and this psu is rock stable bf2 or Chaos Theory nvr looked so good :cool:


the front lights on my tsunami case dont work tho...but they nvr did 2 begin with..any ideas how 2 set them up?
 
Just reverse the connectors. Flip them around.
 
The ones plugged into the board. You're talking about the Power LED and HDD LED, right?
 
Oh.. Sorry.. Can't help you there. I don't even know how they hook up. :D
 
There's probably a molex connector that powers the lights. You need to plug them into a molex plug on the PS. I have the Shark, which is Thermaltake's Server case, basically just a bigger Tsunami. It has a molex plug, up near the 5.25 drive bays, that powers the front light. I like the lights because it keeps me from bumping into stuff when I get up in the middle of the night, but I don't keep my comp in the bedroom.

It's just a matter of connecting power to it.

(if you don't know, molex is the same power connector style that your CD/DVD drives use....maybe your vid card or hard drives too).
 
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