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here is a build i was putting together trying to stay under trying to stay under $675

HD - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3250318AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

Video Card - HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

RAM - CORSAIR XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5

Motherboard - ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

Processor - Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale 2.93GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80571E7500

Case - HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis Gaming Case

Optical drive - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA

power supply - hec HP485D 485W ATX12V Power Supply - Power Cord Included

ive got a fan in there too all for 675 after shipping what do you think? my friend suggested something very different with a quad core AMD (i think), EVGA GeForce GTS 250 512-P3-1153-TR, MSI 760GM-E51 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard, and DDR3 1800 ram instead of my DDR2.... all for roughly the same price... what would be a better build for gaming? any suggestions would be great as im new to all of this

this is for gaming... dont worry about the small harddrive... i know its bad value but i just DO NOT use the space of a terabyte....
 
The 5770 will be a bit faster than the gts250 but the quad processor AMD will have its advantages over the e7500 on games that take advantage of multiple cores. Going from dual to quadcore was pretty big time for me on performance in BFBC2. So if you're going for bang for the buck, get the quad amd setup with a 5770.

But then again, my buddy has a tri-core (I think?) amd setup that he bought from fry's coupled with a gts250 and it runs bfbc2 great at 1440 x 900 resolution.
 
the 5770 with the quad puts me about 75 bucks over budget is the only thing that really hurts me... so im not sure if thats doable
 
get the PII 550 with a 790 or 890 based chipset then unlock it to a quad core

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Going to be hard to get that all in on that budget if you can't deviate. I would recommend buying from multiple places and getting the best deals possible, even a used GPU and motherboard can save you 70-100 depending on the seller.

I would go AM3 with an Athlon II x4, or a phenom II x3 and look for a used GPU. Check local stores, or other online shops for bundles perhaps. After finding a few local places, I never buy online anymore. Much easier to return if defective, and the prices are about equal. No shipping either.
 
with the amount of stuff being sold on this forum im sure you could find some nice deals.. especially if your buying things like the e7500 which came out almost a year ago and was obsolete the day it came out basically..
 
I can vouch for the x2 550...it rapes for a dual core...and it overclocks like a motha.
 
Budget builds rarely gain much by building on Intel hardware, sad but true. An AMD setup for the same money will likely be a more powerful gaming system, or you can save money and get the same performance.

Listen to the people above.
 
Tzzird said:
Going from dual to quadcore was pretty big time for me on performance in BFBC2.
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that's funny as i haven't noticed much difference going from dual to quad at all. but then again, i have better things to do than sit and watch numbers and benchmarks - i go by what i see/hear/taste/feel. i've been out of the loop for quite a while, but seriously, how many games are there that actually utilize all four cores to the point running one is almost necessary for decent performance?
 
Dont get a Wolfdale , get a Phenom II x3 and unlock the 4th core. Heck even if you don't unlock the core, its still a fast cpu and very cheap to boot.

Phenom II X3 aka Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition if your able to unlock the core.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103652

Asus Evo Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131402

4GB DDR3 Ripjaws
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

This is the best budget build on the market right now. Get it while the processors are still around.


Seriously , dont settle for a dual core. If your going to be gaming you will regret it in the future. Were on the tail end of the dual core cpu's lifespan, everything is 3-6 cores now.
 
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1 Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
$21.99

1 HEC Blitz Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 585W Power Supply
$74.99

1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$54.99

1 ASUS VH222H Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
$169.99

1 MSI 770-C45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
$74.99

HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP
$154.99

1 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 160
$109.99

1 AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition
$99.9

2 Rosewill RFA-120-BL 120mm 4 Blue LEDs LED Case Fan
$9.98

COOLER MASTER RR-H101-22FK-RA 80mm Long life sleeve bearing CPU Cooler
$14.99


Subtotal: $796.88


Promo Code: -$6.00

Grand Total: $820.60



what i came up with
 
looks good.

One thing though, that motherboard you chose may have problems unlocking the 4th core on that processor , read the newegg reviews. Make sure its supports ACC.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16813130228

You should splurg and go with the Asus Evo mentioned above to give yourself a greater chance of unlocking that core, there are special features included in its bios to easily unlock the core.

Here is a how to guide and a list of motherboards that can unlock them.
http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/535501-amd-phenom-ii-core-unlocking-guide.html


edit: It appears from the guide that the MSI motherboard you chose does unlock them with a 1.3 bios.
770-C45 – 1.3 Offical Bios/1.3B2 Special Bios/10.2 – SUCCESS!!/SUCCESS!!/SUCCESS!! *Thanks Edgemeal and


Anyways, Good luck on your build, its not guaranteed that you will unlock the core, but there is a high probability that you will.
 
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Banyan said:
that's funny as i haven't noticed much difference going from dual to quad at all. but then again, i have better things to do than sit and watch numbers and benchmarks - i go by what i see/hear/taste/feel. i've been out of the loop for quite a while, but seriously, how many games are there that actually utilize all four cores to the point running one is almost necessary for decent performance?
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Well, the FRAPS numbers justified the purchase for me. I went from high 30s, low 40s fps to mid 50s to low 60s.
 
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