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Help me put together "high end" system

tonypitt

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I'd be grateful for help with a new system build.

Background: I have a system that is about 2.5 years old that I built with help from people here. I'm seeing frequent (a few times a week) crashing (memory errors or similar) and then also times when upon startup I get video errors. I plan to take this system apart and use it for a backup, but I'd like to put together a new primary system. I'd really appreciate everyone's help with this. I'm a computing professional, but not really a hardware guy. Whenever it comes time to build a new system I immerse myself on things here at this site to try to figure out the best components.

1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc

My primary use is running business software, although I will also use it for some gaming. (Gaming expectations are not high performance. Civilization V is my favorite game.) Being able to run widescreen dual monitors is a key concern.

2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?

A target is $3,000, but that is flexible. I usually put together a new system every 2-3 years and try to use the best equipment available at that time to get a system with good longevity. I can spend more if it is worth it.

3) Which country do you live in? If the U.S, please tell us the state and city if possible.

U.S. I live in eastern TN. Johnson City.

4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.

I have a set of parts I'll be reusing (see next question). Other than that I need everything. I think that would mean (1) case, (2) motherboard, (3) processor, (4) memory, (5) power supply, (6) video card(s). My biggest concern is figuring out the best option for (2) and (6). I also will need some desktop speakers. Right now I'm doing HDMI audio from one of my monitors, and it stinks. I'd like my budget to cover (1)-(6).

5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.

I have two Dell UltraSharp U3415W 34-inch Curved LED monitors that I'll be re-using. I also have a couple of SSDs I will probably use as 2nd or 3rd drives. Although I don't have it yet, I plan to purchase a Samsung 850 Pro SSD drive as the primary system drive. (Unless someone talks me out of this.) I have a blu-ray writer I'll put in as an optical drive (although I rarely need it).

6) Will you be overclocking?

No. At least that's not what I have planned

7) What is the max resolution of your monitor? What size is it?

3440 x 1440 times 2 monitors. Each monitor is 34 inches.

8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?

I'm ready to start ordering components now, but I'm assuming it will take a few days for some replies here and for me to do my own research. I'd hope to have this built before Christmas.

9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? eSATA? Onboard video (as a backup or main GPU)? UEFI? etc.

USB 3.0 definitely. Don't think I'll do RAID. As far as Crossfire or SLI, I need advice. Right now I'm running a single GeForce GTX 660 video card to drive both monitors. It doesn't seem up to the task. Probably SATA 6Gbps to get the most out of the SSD. I don't currently own anything that would require eSATA. Onboard video--not important. UEFI sounds good.

10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If yes, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?

I plan to install a properly licensed Windows 10 64 bit.


I feel like the component that is the biggest mystery to me is video cards. I don't need anything for high-end gaming, but I need something that will drive these two beasts of a monitor well in an environment where I do serious multitasking.
 
I don't need anything for high-end gaming, but I need something that will drive these two beasts of a monitor well in an environment where I do serious multitasking.

I'm thinkin' dual 980tis
I'd say dual 980ti cards might be a bit overkill (he mentioned Civ5 as a gaming example). I'm not going to say I'm against a single 980ti, been thinking about going green with that card ;)

I'm more of an AMD person, so I can't really give much advice about Intel MBs. If you check the [H] front page I'll sure you'll come across a nice (and expensive) one to last you, but being as they're new expect to be updating the BIOS at least a few times.

I personally use the Logitech Z906 5.1 speakers with a SoundBlaster Z. They sound decent enough to me, but I'm sure someone will come along and tell you how crappy that is :). I use ATH-M40x headphones, though they might be a bit cheap for your build (they sound nice, but big ears and glasses are not what I would call compatible with them, so I am on the lookout for something better).
 
I'm thinkin' dual 980tis .

Dude.... lol

His game of choice is Civilization V.

Dual 980 ti's is RIDICULOUS overkill.

To OP, for a video card, an Nvidia 970 should be more than enough for your needs.

This one from EVGA with the ACX 2.0+ cooler is my top pick:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487136

As for CPU, what exact business applications will you be running?

This influences whether we recommend a 6-core (12 thread) 5820k/5930k build or a 4-core (8 thread) 6700k.
 
No regards given to "best for the dollar" build considering your budget. Just what I would do for myself, given the components needed. Certainly places to save a few dollars here. 980 Ti SLI is going to support whatever you want to play at full resolution and quality settings for a good while. One card would fine as well, but I would not skimp if you have the cash and are looking to keep the system for a good while.

PC Hound Part List - tonypitt [H] Build

CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K ($524.75 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG RAMPAGE V EXTREME/U3.1 ($479.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: CORSAIR 16GB (2 x 8GB) Vengeance LPX ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory #2: CORSAIR 16GB (2 x 8GB) Vengeance LPX ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX-GTX980TI-DC3OC-6GD5-GAMING ($669.99 @ B&H)
Video Card #2: ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX-GTX980TI-DC3OC-6GD5-GAMING ($669.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 1000W Platinum-1000 ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: SilverStone RAVEN Series SST-RV03B-WA ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2,889.68
Price may include shipping, rebates, promotions, and tax
Generated by PC Hound
 
Yeah dude, tell us specifically what software you'll be using. It can make the difference of not wasting several hundred up to a thousand dollars on a platform with 6-8 cores that you don't need :D

If you're using single-threaded applications, a $330 Core i7 Plus $150 Z170 motherboard (for potential SLI upgrade) will be more than enough. Throwing more cores at the problem won't make things any faster :D

I do agree that a GTX 980 Ti would be a good fit for your resolution, but I think you only need one to start with. I think we can build you a system for somewhere between $1500-1800 with SLI upgradability, depending on how many cores you need.

EDIT: love the overkill Kyle :D
 
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Thanks all for the info so far.

Software used: In a typical session I'll have open: Outlook, IE, Tableau, SAP Lumira, Excel, Access, Camtasia, Dreamweaver, SAP HANA Studio, and an RDS session. Nothing too exotic. Things I do of a multithreaded nature run on different hardware that I remote into. It's more about quantity of apps rather than demand of any single app. I run a Surface Pro 3 i7 as a travelling machine, but don't do as much multitasking on it due to just having 1 screen.

Been looking through the items from Kyle's list. I do think I can get by with one video card, but I came here for feedback, so let me know if I'm wrong about that.

I'd probably pick a different case than the Silverstone RAVEN series. I've been looking at some in the cases forum here.

Haven't yet seen a mobo that I knew was "it".

Thanks, all, for the help.
 
Sounds like a 6700k / Z170 / 32GB / 980ti build is what you're looking for :)
 
It looks like the 980 TI works well for the video card. Now I just have to figure out which 9 of them they have on Amazon I need to order. (I'll check other places too.) Recommendations?

A 6700k processor sounds good, too. Looks like those are currently hard to find.

Z170 motherboard looks good. Anyone have a recommendation of a particular one?
 
Yeah, apparently the "supply issues" Intel claimed to have solved are still around, or can't keep up with holiday demand. Sorry I recommend it, I haven't priced a 6700k build in about a month!

I'd just go with a 5820k and an entry-level x99 motherboard. It's absolutely stupid for us to recommend a 6700k when it costs twenty dollars more. Those 2 extra cores won't hurt you.
 
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Sounds like a 6700k / Z170 / 32GB / 980ti build is what you're looking for :)

Yep, if you don't need those extra cores and are not going to OC, I would get the stock Turbo clock as high as I could.

PC Hound Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 8M ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO ($195.92 @ TigerDirect)
Memory: G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Ripjaws V Series ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory #2: G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Ripjaws V Series ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX-GTX980TI-DC3-6GD5-GAMING ($629.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1,445.88
Price may include shipping, rebates, promotions, and tax
Generated by PC Hound
 
It looks like the 980 TI works well for the video card. Now I just have to figure out which 9 of them they have on Amazon I need to order. (I'll check other places too.) Recommendations?

A 6700k processor sounds good, too. Looks like those are currently hard to find.

Z170 motherboard looks good. Anyone have a recommendation of a particular one?


A few of my pics at Amazon that are in stock at MSRP.

PC Hound Part List

Video Card: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 980 Ti GV-N98TWF3OC-6GD ($629.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card #2: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti GTX 980Ti 6GD5T OC ($628.41 @ Amazon)
Video Card #3: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 980 Ti GV-N98TG1 GAMING-6GD ($629.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card #4: ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX-GTX980TI-DC3-6GD5-GAMING ($629.99 @ Amazon)


Price may include shipping, rebates, promotions, and tax
Generated by PC Hound
 
Thanks all. I'm going to start putting things in shopping carts at different places. :)

Have a big project I'm involved in right now. Thinking I will either order on Thursday or Friday evening as a reward for getting that finished.

I still need to pick out a case. I'm looking for something that looks "high end" and professional. Nothing that looks like an alien dropped it off. (I like straight lines and dark colors.) Will browse the forums here.

Still open to recommendations until I actually pull the trigger.
 
Look into the Fractal Design Refine R5. I might be a little biased on it because I got one not to long ago, but it's by far one of the best cases I've had the pleasure of dealing with. Plus it's got sound deadening materials so it's super quiet to boot!
 
Look into the Fractal Design Refine R5. I might be a little biased on it because I got one not to long ago, but it's by far one of the best cases I've had the pleasure of dealing with. Plus it's got sound deadening materials so it's super quiet to boot!

Like this!
 
He isn't gaming on both monitors....

It still takes more than a single stock 980Ti to game at that res reliably. Not to mention, the extra framebuffer of a 3440x1440 screen will eat a decent chunk of VRAM.
 
It still takes more than a single stock 980Ti to game at that res reliably. Not to mention, the extra framebuffer of a 3440x1440 screen will eat a decent chunk of VRAM.

As defaultuser pointed out.

He isn't playing the latest games that are graphically intensive. A single 980 Ti would be more then plenty for his setup. You guys see his $3k budget and think he needs to spend all of it.

He needs reliability. SLI isn't something I'd consider to be reliable in mission critical environments.

A single 980 Ti will power both displays just fine for desktop use and power a single display for gaming just fine. Period.

For the record I play games on my 4K TV with a single 980 Non-Ti just fine. I doubt the OP would have any trouble with that.
 
It still takes more than a single stock 980Ti to game at that res reliably. Not to mention, the extra framebuffer of a 3440x1440 screen will eat a decent chunk of VRAM.

VRAM doesn't magically double when you SLI two cards together. Getting more than 6GB VRAM would require a Titan X, which is simply ridiculous.

Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. I already backed up my claims with an [H] review.
 
I just now purchased the CPU from Amazon. They indicated they had one, although it says it will not ship out immediately. I bought an Intel Boxed Core I7-6700K 4.00 GHz 8M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151 BX80662I76700K.

I figured the next item to buy will be the motherboard. Looking around at options on that this morning. I don't think I need the features of the ASUS ROG RAMPAGE V Extreme. The ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO is recommended here, but the reviews on Newegg are a bit scary. Not sure what to make of that. Maybe will read a bit in the motherboards forum here.

Thanks, all, for the help.
 
I'm going to give the third recommendation in the thread for the Fractal Define R5. Best case I've ever built in (personally and 2 other installs on friends computers). The combination of quiet / performance available at the addition / removal of included panels make it a great case just on that front alone. It's also got a nice look as well.
 
Well, I've got the following things in a shopping cart (except for the first item, which I've already purchased):

Intel Boxed Core I7-6700K 4.00 GHz 8M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151 BX80662I76700K
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Gaming Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Desktop Memory Model F4-3000C15D-16GVR
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Desktop Memory Model F4-3000C15D-16GVR
Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Computer Case
SAMSUNG 850 PRO 2.5" 512GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7KE512BW
SeaSonic Platinum-1000 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready

Notice what's missing? ;) Video Card

I've decided that for now I think it makes sense to start with 1 card. If I see performance issues, I can always add a second card. Now I just need to figure out which card. I'm looking at the 4 that Kyle Bennett posted previously. Can't really figure out if one is any better than the other. I wondered if since I'm going with an ASUS motherboard if I should favor the ASUS video card?

Any recommendations? Anyone see anything in my cart I should swap out?

(I know I said I wasn't going to order this until Thursday or Friday, but I'm excited and champing at the bit.)

What other minor things am I likely to need? Additional cooling fans? Cables?

Thanks, you guys, for talking me through this. It has been great and I'm looking forward to putting this thing together.
 
Looks good. Little overkill on the PSU, but meh.

I'd go with which ever one offers the best warranty with an aftermarket cooling solution. I tend to lean more towards EVGA though.
 
Well, I've got the following things in a shopping cart (except for the first item, which I've already purchased):

Intel Boxed Core I7-6700K 4.00 GHz 8M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151 BX80662I76700K
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Gaming Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Desktop Memory Model F4-3000C15D-16GVR
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Desktop Memory Model F4-3000C15D-16GVR
Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Computer Case
SAMSUNG 850 PRO 2.5" 512GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7KE512BW
SeaSonic Platinum-1000 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready

Notice what's missing? ;) Video Card

I've decided that for now I think it makes sense to start with 1 card. If I see performance issues, I can always add a second card. Now I just need to figure out which card. I'm looking at the 4 that Kyle Bennett posted previously. Can't really figure out if one is any better than the other. I wondered if since I'm going with an ASUS motherboard if I should favor the ASUS video card?

Any recommendations? Anyone see anything in my cart I should swap out?

(I know I said I wasn't going to order this until Thursday or Friday, but I'm excited and champing at the bit.)

What other minor things am I likely to need? Additional cooling fans? Cables?

Thanks, you guys, for talking me through this. It has been great and I'm looking forward to putting this thing together.

Good choice on the mobo and CPU.
 
Thanks everyone for your help. I wound up pulling the trigger on the purchase on Wednesday night. (Good thing since I spent most of Thursday sick from a stomach virus.) Looks like all the pieces will get here on Monday.

I added a CPU cooler, keyboard/mouse, and some supplies. Total came to around $2k when tax was added in. Hope to be putting this together next week!
 
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