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Help Me Decide On Mp3 player.

TheBlueChanell

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Hello, I am looking to get a new mp3 player. Everyone in my family are ipod people, and I don't want one. I've had archos, creative, iriver, and iaudio(jet audio) players in the past pleased with all. The the players I am looking at are the Iriver H10 20gig, and the Toshiba Gigabeat 20 gig. I was wondering how the H10 compares in size to the ipod. I know the toshiba is almost exactly the same size, just a hair smaller and lighter. I really enjoyed the iriver I had previous to this, but the huge screen and sexiness of the tosiba are almost have me sold. The thing is I can't find any reviews on the gigabeat. I have checked and read,and looked on misticriver. What player do you guys thing I should get. Also, could you recommend me some good earbuds. Also, the desktop headphones and speakers I will be using are the senn hd555's and the klipsch 5.1's, so the earbuds need to be of quality. Also, if anyone has any pic's of these two players alone, with eachother, or compared to the ipod could you post them please.

Toshiba Gigabeat 20

iriver H10 20

Thank you for reading, and any pictures, input or help is greatly appreciated.
 
Sweet that settles it. I'm getting the f20, I alway's had a fancy for it. ;) The only thing left is head phones. *edit* I read a bunch of reviews, on the f20 and the people all gave it average reviews. One reviewer said the sound was better than the ipod by a longshot, and that the controlls were wacky because he sometimes scrolled to fast, but I do that on ipod's. I personally hate I tunes, and love WMP adn would be right at home. So, I still think the toshiba would be the way to go but, every review I read it just get's ok ratings. As far as the iriver goes, I love iriver but the screen on the h10 in every picture is see seems to be plauged by the screen door effect. Plus, the screen's kinda small for how big the h10 is. I have always liked toshiba product's. Does anyone have any first hand experience with the F20 and an Ipod or the F10 and and Ipod, or even better the H10 and the F20. For some reason a voice in my head's telling me to get the ipod,but I can't do it. I just don't like them. Alot of my friends have them, and they've had batteries going bad, screens that died. My friend has had 3 Ipods in the past 2 and half months, and when he recieved his second one it went strait into a case and never came out. Now, he's on his third and it's been working fine, but he's not impressed and wishes he had gone the route of iriver. Also, can anyone vouch on the quality of the H10's screen. It just look's bad. My budget for head phones, is 100 and 150 if needed. Thank you.
 
What's your budget?

For classic earbuds, Sony MDR-E888s are supposedly good. However, I prefer the canal earbuds of Etymotics and Shure. I like the look and fit of Etymotics phones myself, but there are a lot of Shure fans too. I have the ER-6i model.
 
If I don't get the F20, I guess I'll go the route of evil and get a 5th gen. Ipod, it's supposed to fix the issues I have with the Ipod,and triple the battery life. :) which is it's main selling point to me, and I read it was supposed to be smaller.
 
If you're not going to get the f20 immediatly, I'd wait a bit and see what the next gen players look like. Creative is coming out with a zen micro color screen eventually, and the 5th gen ipod would be worth it if they did give it triple battery life... and maybe made the battery user replacable. shelling out 150 to replace a battery is a bit to much in my book.
 
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