Help me choose monitors please.

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taeyang9999

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I currently have Samsung 2232bw monitor but I dont really like it.
Iits really good only when I play games, text is horrible.
so Im trying to return the samsung 2232bw and get other monitor.
I searched few and found that I dont want to go with tn panel.

Here is my picks. 20",21",22" or 24"(if they have for under $400:)
Dell 2005FPW - 20" WS LG.Philips S-IPS (LM201W01)
Dell 2007WFP - 20" WS LG.Philips S-IPS (LM201W01)
HP F2105 - 21" WS Samsung S-PVA (LTM210M2)
HP w2207 - 22" dont know what panel type is.
HP w2007 - 20" dont know what panel type is.

I dont want to go over $400 since I paid samsung 2232bw for $350.
If you guys have other monitors that you recommend(bigger size dont matter) please post here.

Thank you.
 
o really? hmm.. is it going to be same quality as samsung 2232bw?
HP monitors have good feedbacks though even with TN panel..
 
The w2207 with a later build date (July 07), I can say is the finest TN panel I have ever seen. This from someone who absolutely hates LCDs, probably becuase it's not as expensive as MVA panels, but has similiar balck level and no black crush.

IPS panels are the best by far, but they are 2-3 times as expensive as TN.

I would never buy a MVA, black crush is unbearable to me.
 
I currently have a 2007WFP and I can vouch for it being one of the best 20" models available assuming of course you get the S-IPS panel. I also recently got a NEC 20WMGX2 and it's the only thing that outclasses the Dell in this size/price range. If you don't mind rebates (directly from NEC and can be tracked online) then you can snag one for $399 currently..
 
hmm. I may try HP 22" because you can get from local shop.
and then maybe I try Dell 2007wfp(its $309 refurbished from dell site)
 
another vote for the 2007wfp. i had a vx2025wm and then got a 2007wfp...HUGE DIFFERENCE. working on the dell is so much easier on my eyes. but like joemama said, unless you can pay for the nec, go for the dell
 
I have the HP w2408, just the big brother of the 22" and I love it. I jsut repied to a guy asking about it, and I told him the same thing. No monitor is perfect, the HP has a glossy screen that most other 24" don't have. I play games and watch movies on it and its fantastic. I've read about poeple bitching about its "colot shifting?", if it is what I think it is, i only notice it on the google main page with the browser maxed out. When the whole screen is white like that, if you stare at the center of the monitor and move your head around, you can barely see a little bit of white color shifting, and its really hard to notice. I look at it this way, I paid $600 fo rthis thing, if it wasn't worth it, I would return and get the dell. It's worth it.
 
The 24" is a MVA panel though, right? Horizontal color shifting is worse on MVA than TN. The 22" and 20" HPs are TN, and have slight verticle brightness shift, much less anoying than MVA. Especially on a large wide screen where there is more horizontal area.

I hate to do this to you, but look at a dark image that stretches across the screen, and the sides will show more detail (be brighter) than the center of you vision. Now move your head horiztonally side to side and watch the "dark patch" in the middle move as well.

That was just too much for me, and forces me to completely dismiss MVA technology as inferior to even TN, for multi-media usage anyway.
 
As far as I know this hp 24" is a TN panel, samsung product I have been told?
 
I was in a similar situation last week, I wanted to replace my crappy 17" Samsung CRT but I didn't want a cheap TN panel everyone talks about so I did plenty of research and finally decided with the NEC 20WMGX2. I actually didn't get it yet but after reading review after review it sounds like the best 20" monitor out there. The monitor was $800 when it was released, getting it for $400 after the MIR is a steal.

Only scary thing is I keep hearing there aren't any new Necs out there to replace so they give refurbished monitors if by any chance you need to replace yours. If you want one now is the chance before theres none left. Its either a Nec, an overpriced Apple or a Dell (Just hope you win that lottery though) for S-IPS.
 
vick1000 said:
The 24" is a MVA panel though, right? Horizontal color shifting is worse on MVA than TN. The 22" and 20" HPs are TN, and have slight verticle brightness shift, much less anoying than MVA. Especially on a large wide screen where there is more horizontal area.

I hate to do this to you, but look at a dark image that stretches across the screen, and the sides will show more detail (be brighter) than the center of you vision. Now move your head horiztonally side to side and watch the "dark patch" in the middle move as well.

That was just too much for me, and forces me to completely dismiss MVA technology as inferior to even TN, for multi-media usage anyway.
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You must have your panels confused or are living in a dream world. No MVA that I have ever owned has exhibited what you are saying.

Color shifting worse on an MVA than TN? Again, you must have something confused.

And the HP w2408 is a TN.
 
kmrivers said:
You must have your panels confused or are living in a dream world. No MVA that I have ever owned has exhibited what you are saying.

Color shifting worse on an MVA than TN? Again, you must have something confused.

And the HP w2408 is a TN.
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Horizontal yes, it's called black crush. It's not as noticable on bright colors, but very noticeable on darker colors and blacks.
 
vick1000 said:
The HPs are TN panels....but the best TNs I heve ever seen.
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Don't a lot of the HP TN's use Samsung panels or the same ones Samsung uses in it's lcds (like Chunghwa), if so they are essentially the same thing in different casing.
 
vick1000 said:
The 24" is a MVA panel though, right? Horizontal color shifting is worse on MVA than TN. The 22" and 20" HPs are TN, and have slight verticle brightness shift, much less anoying than MVA. Especially on a large wide screen where there is more horizontal area.

I hate to do this to you, but look at a dark image that stretches across the screen, and the sides will show more detail (be brighter) than the center of you vision. Now move your head horiztonally side to side and watch the "dark patch" in the middle move as well.

That was just too much for me, and forces me to completely dismiss MVA technology as inferior to even TN, for multi-media usage anyway.
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I think you have S-PVA confused with P-MVA.....I used to have a P-MVA Acer F-20 and it exhibited none of the things you said in this post. In my opinion...P-MVA is the next best thing to a S-IPS panel. (of which I current have 2 examples)
 
joemama said:
I think you have S-PVA confused with P-MVA.....I used to have a P-MVA Acer F-20 and it exhibited none of the things you said in this post. In my opinion...P-MVA is the next best thing to a S-IPS panel. (of which I current have 2 examples)
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All VA panels exhibit the same effect. It is much less pronounced with gamma and brightness set high, but it's there. It's more noticeable on larger monitors as well, given the larger horizontal area.
 
 
What do you guys think? Should I get 20" or 22"?
I do gaming, watching video, web browsing.

If I get 20" I probably get Nec.
but I dont know which i need, I never seen 20" monitor
is it going to be alot small than 22"
I think 22" is just right size for me
 
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