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Help me beat the boss

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Craz_3

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OK so my boss decided he was gonna go out and out do me by doing a better computer setup.

3.2ghz p4
2gb pc3200 HyperX
Radeon9800 Pro
Dual 36gb raptors in a raid

Whats it gonna take to kill this?

I was hoping to stay on an athlon(barton) using a single 74gb raptor, I too am using the a 9800 pro. Would a 3200Xp and the raptor = out to his machine?
 
make him work his way up to dual fx-53's and a sli 6800ultra and 4 gigs of the corsair XML :p
 
Um there is no way you can have dual FX 53s, but dual Opteron 250s would be nice. As for gaming a dually does not do much. Get an FX 53 and overclock it, couple it with a 6800U or X800 PE and you can not go wrong. Oh, 1 or 2 GB of some fast ram wont hurt.
 
Craz_3 said:
OK so my boss decided he was gonna go out and out do me by doing a better computer setup.

3.2ghz p4
2gb pc3200 HyperX
Radeon9800 Pro
Dual 36gb raptors in a raid

Whats it gonna take to kill this?

I was hoping to stay on an athlon(barton) using a single 74gb raptor, I too am using the a 9800 pro. Would a 3200Xp and the raptor = out to his machine?
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I dont think people read anything but the title...

running the same vid card nothing you can build is gonna "kill it"
 
Craz_3 said:
OK so my boss decided he was gonna go out and out do me by doing a better computer setup.

3.2ghz p4
2gb pc3200 HyperX
Radeon9800 Pro
Dual 36gb raptors in a raid

Whats it gonna take to kill this?
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A shotgun should do it. :D
 
Alright heres what I'm aiming for. In game loading times, the raptor rips apart my 7200rpm drive. So I was thinking that the 74gb raptor would help me catch up there, with the raptor and an athlon (2500oc'd to a)3200 be pretty close?

The reason I'm holing off on the Video card is I want to do an entirely new system with a New processor and eventually switch to pci express when the cards get better and its more developed.
 
Craz_3 said:
Alright heres what I'm aiming for. In game loading times, the raptor rips apart my 7200rpm drive. So I was thinking that the 74gb raptor would help me catch up there, with the raptor and an athlon (2500oc'd to a)3200 be pretty close?

The reason I'm holing off on the Video card is I want to do an entirely new system with a New processor and eventually switch to pci express when the cards get better and its more developed.
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some of it his ram, get the raptor and go to 1 gb ram puts you close to him...
 
your 74 gig would be slower then his dual 36 gigs... 74 gigs is a bigger search area at say 1x speed than 72 gigs is at 2x speed. so really if he has 10k rpm hd's get 15k rpm hd's. if he has a 9800 pro, get a 6800 or a 9800xt.

processor doesn't matter much when you get above 333fsb, fsb > higher processor clocking

~Adam
 
the question is, how much money do u want to spend? U can build a machine to easily beat his, but its gonna cost some money of course.
 
Why bother getting a faster rig when you can just frag his ass repeatedly?
 
a single 74ms is faster than a 36gb (burst and access)

The single drive will have better access times vs the raid array. It really helps load times in a fast computer.
 
If I was you I'd just get what made me happy and played my games the way I wanted.

Ta hell with your boss. :D
 
CleanSlate said:
your 74 gig would be slower then his dual 36 gigs... 74 gigs is a bigger search area at say 1x speed than 72 gigs is at 2x speed. so really if he has 10k rpm hd's get 15k rpm hd's. if he has a 9800 pro, get a 6800 or a 9800xt.

processor doesn't matter much when you get above 333fsb, fsb > higher processor clocking

~Adam
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No. 1 74gb rips apart 2 36s in Raid.
 
I've read that the PCI-X cards have no appreciable performance improvement over the AGP ones. So if you want to "beat the boss" right away, then you may as well get an AGP card now, and you can use it in your future system as well. A better card would definitely bring your system's performance above his.

As for Raptors in RAID0, I didn't see much of an improvement over a single drive, didn't benchmark, but they don't "feel" any faster, the games still take a long time to load...

BTW, I found the title of the thread to be amusing... I thought you were going to ask how to beat the boss in some game. A pun? :)
 
yeah i thought he was talkin about d3. anyway just got new card, x800 or 6800 series. thats the easiest way, n u will gain most performance boost unlike cpu, ram or hard drive.
 
The Batman said:
No. 1 74gb rips apart 2 36s in Raid.
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This goes against all my knowledge in the HD area... you're going to have to "burden the proof" there. Benchies please.

~Adam
 
Craz_3 said:
OK so my boss decided he was gonna go out and out do me by doing a better computer setup.

3.2ghz p4
2gb pc3200 HyperX
Radeon9800 Pro
Dual 36gb raptors in a raid

Whats it gonna take to kill this?

I was hoping to stay on an athlon(barton) using a single 74gb raptor, I too am using the a 9800 pro. Would a 3200Xp and the raptor = out to his machine?
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depends on how u wanna "kill" that machine.

in games, if u wanna beat that machine, then go for a 6800 vanilla. nothing else will be needed, but u mite go for 512MB more ram.

if u wanna beat that machine in other stuff like encoding and ripping etc., then seriously u mite go for a 2600+ mobile cpu or an Athlon64. A64 will be the safest route to go.

and get a good cooler if u havent already got one.
 
Kek said:
I've read that the PCI-X cards have no appreciable performance improvement over the AGP ones.
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There's a chance that you might see some improvement when using a PCI-E video card, tho....
 
64bit_is_here said:
depends on how u wanna "kill" that machine.

in games, if u wanna beat that machine, then go for a 6800 vanilla. nothing else will be needed, but u mite go for 512MB more ram.

if u wanna beat that machine in other stuff like encoding and ripping etc., then seriously u mite go for a 2600+ mobile cpu or an Athlon64. A64 will be the safest route to go.

and get a good cooler if u havent already got one.
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i dont know if the 2600+ would be better than a 3.2 at encodeing, even overclocked. it would beat it in games though
 
Faster RAM is better than more RAM for gaming. Tighter timings than that 2 gigs (either 4x512 or 2x1024) will give you a better boost.

Newer video cards can best that R9800 easily. Consider a GF6800 GT or X800 Pro, though I lean towards the former due to the fact you don't have to void your warranty explicitly to get it up to its bigger brother's level.

Just about any Athlon64 will thrash the equivalent (and oftentimes the lower cousin of) P4. Go with 3200+ or higher A64. Probably go 3400+ or 3500+ (due to the price drop) to guarantee success. Go with the latter to get the dual channel so he can't claim that as an advantage.

Go one 74gig Raptor for your OS drive and a faster larger drive as your main system drive. Hitachi drives are being touted for their out and out speed. You can get a 160gig version of the 7k250 for a song or you can go 250 if you have 200 or 400 if you have 400 bucks to spend. Conversely, you can go for the specs race and get the new Maxtor 300gig with 16meg cache and Ncommandqueuing and show how you have more space and more cache, too.

So if you have:

A64 3500+ and an nForce3Ultra-based board (MSI's?) plus a GF6800GT and 1024 megs of DDR (3700+ EB OCZ) and combine that with a Raptor + a Maxtor Maxline III, your system will be hard to top.

No benchmark will show his to be any faster. Only situation that might be better on his is multitasking and even then, its hard to tell. I went from a P4 to this A64 and I haven't noticed any instances where multitasking was any worse or better here or on the previous platform.
 
ameoba said:
There's a chance that you might see some improvement when using a PCI-E video card, tho....
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No, I don't think you will actually "see" it...

And I'd recommend the 6800GT over a regular 6800, 4 more pipelines...
 
The Batman said:
No. 1 74gb rips apart 2 36s in Raid.
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cmon batman you should know better than this.....I have compared this one.....

1 74gb raptor against my raid setup is 40% slower....
 
Kek said:
I've read that the PCI-X cards have no appreciable performance improvement over the AGP ones. So if you want to "beat the boss" right away, then you may as well get an AGP card now, and you can use it in your future system as well. A better card would definitely bring your system's performance above his.

As for Raptors in RAID0, I didn't see much of an improvement over a single drive, didn't benchmark, but they don't "feel" any faster, the games still take a long time to load...

BTW, I found the title of the thread to be amusing... I thought you were going to ask how to beat the boss in some game. A pun? :)
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amd rigs dont raid well for some reason..
 
chuckm1020 said:
i dont know if the 2600+ would be better than a 3.2 at encodeing, even overclocked. it would beat it in games though
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the 2600 mobiles oc to 2.5g easily on air, and with a fast fsb itll beat the p4 at 3.2 non ocd, but as i said, going a64 is the safest.
 
wait a few months and build a new system that'll smoke his, or u could upgrade to the 6800gt, but this has already been said. I too thought the title of this thread was about beating a boss in a game, heh.
 
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