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help, idle is 48c

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komseh

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I'm just wondering if theres anything I can do to lower my cpu temp... I feel like it should be running cooler. The only thing I can think I possibly did wrong is when i applied the AS5. I applied it to the cpu for some reason(I must have been stoned). Should I re-apply a thin coat to the base of the heatsink and whipe everything else off?

Should I be idling at 48C w/ this setup?
cpu: 3800+ x2 socket am2
case: antec sonata 2 w/ ACAG removed
intake: scythe s-flex 1200rpm / 49cfm
exaust: scythe s-flex 1200rpm / 49cfm
cpu heatsink / fan: scythe mine w/ 42cfm fan
ambient room temp: 78F
 
komseh said:
I'm just wondering if theres anything I can do to lower my cpu temp... I feel like it should be running cooler. The only thing I can think I possibly did wrong is when i applied the AS5. I applied it to the cpu for some reason(I must have been stoned). Should I re-apply a thin coat to the base of the heatsink and whipe everything else off?

Should I be idling at 48C w/ this setup?
cpu: 3800+ x2 socket am2
case: antec sonata 2 w/ ACAG removed
intake: scythe s-flex 1200rpm / 49cfm
exaust: scythe s-flex 1200rpm / 49cfm
cpu heatsink / fan: scythe mine w/ 42cfm fan
ambient room temp: 78F
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when all else fails, try re-seating your HSF and use a high grade thermal compount (AS5
is a known favorite).

i've used sonatas before and they're not the most ideal case for airflow... do you have a pic of your internal setup?
 
also it takes time for the compound to settle .

Use tie ups , another thing is that the is your cpu overclocked and if its not that is a problem too. The factory settings in most cases will be set that it runs at this temp . Increase the FSB without increasing yout voltage and this will decrease the temperature because it will reduce traffic and increase data transfer.

I have overclocked about 6 cpus and i have noticed that the temp is always more when you buy it than when it is overclocked to a certain extent.

The temperature will increase because of the voltages , decrease the voltage if you dont want to increase the FrontSideBus (cpu Vcore).

If your still stuck PM me.
 
With as5, following the manufacturer's instruction, you should put a little dab on the IHS then plop the heatsink on there and clamp it down, this will naturally spread the AS5 properly. You can go to arctic silver's website and there are pictoral instructions I believe. Try opening the side of the case up and see if you see a large difference, if so, your case airflow is to blame.
 
48c idle is quite high..thats around the neighborhood of my opteron 165 load temps and my ambient temp is a bit higher than yours. you should try reseating the heatsink and follow the AS5 instructions on the arctic silver website. and as others have mentioned, check for good airflow
 
also it takes time for the compound to settle .
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Heh, its not like settling is gonna cause a 12 degree drop. This isn't the problem.

You either have to remount your heatsink w/ thermal paste or your motherboard may be reporting temperatures wrong.
 
2uantuM said:
Heh, its not like settling is gonna cause a 12 degree drop. This isn't the problem.

You either have to remount your heatsink w/ thermal paste or your motherboard may be reporting temperatures wrong.
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yeah, settling will get you a few degrees lower, definitely not 12. i recently reseated my scythe ninja. it was idling around 36c and just yesterday it idled around 34c
 
I have the same problem.

My CPU is at a constant 45C or higher and goes up to 70C under heavy load(Cellfactor).
It's an intel P4 3.2Ghz Prescott(800 Mhz FSB, HT, the whole 9 yards). I have it cooled with an Asus Crux. My ambient room temp is about 76F and my case temp is 26C.

I run an Antec P180 with 120CFM 120mm fans in all possible slots, and the 80mm slot has an 86CFM fan. Also, I have a northbridge cooler and little copper heatsinks on every little chipset I have(ie: memory, southbridge, anything black and square).

This is REALLY starting to get me angry and I'm thinking about getting water cooling to help it.

EDIT: I also have artic silver 5 on my HSF and have recently reseated it.
 
idle is now 38c w/ case closed. I re-applied as5 per instructions from their website. I tried it without the case cover off first and cpu temp. was 37c.

It seems like that intake fan would suck at its job, but the temp difference with and without cover on were minimal (1 degree)

If I were to get another case, what would you guys reccomend? I like the mid-tower size, and I really like the antec design. Do they make something like that with better airflow?

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Nali said:
I have the same problem.

My CPU is at a constant 45C or higher and goes up to 70C under heavy load(Cellfactor).
It's an intel P4 3.2Ghz Prescott(800 Mhz FSB, HT, the whole 9 yards). I have it cooled with an Asus Crux. My ambient room temp is about 76F and my case temp is 26C.

I run an Antec P180 with 120CFM 120mm fans in all possible slots, and the 80mm slot has an 86CFM fan. Also, I have a northbridge cooler and little copper heatsinks on every little chipset I have(ie: memory, southbridge, anything black and square).

This is REALLY starting to get me angry and I'm thinking about getting water cooling to help it.

EDIT: I also have artic silver 5 on my HSF and have recently reseated it.
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It's a PresHott dude. You shouldn't compare temps to A64's or Opterons, it's just not quite fair. I don't think that is even considered hot for your CPU, but for the OP it was for sure.
 
Another thing to keep in mind is the operating range. My opty's get up around 65 under load but that's still within spec, so I'm not too worried about it. I've been meaning to reseat my hsf's, it's just a pain in the ass.
 
Nali said:
I have the same problem.

My CPU is at a constant 45C or higher and goes up to 70C under heavy load(Cellfactor).
It's an intel P4 3.2Ghz Prescott(800 Mhz FSB, HT, the whole 9 yards). I have it cooled with an Asus Crux. My ambient room temp is about 76F and my case temp is 26C.

I run an Antec P180 with 120CFM 120mm fans in all possible slots, and the 80mm slot has an 86CFM fan. Also, I have a northbridge cooler and little copper heatsinks on every little chipset I have(ie: memory, southbridge, anything black and square).

This is REALLY starting to get me angry and I'm thinking about getting water cooling to help it.

EDIT: I also have artic silver 5 on my HSF and have recently reseated it.
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those do seem to be a bit high. there was an article at anand called "How Hot is the Prescott?" and their 3.2 ghz prescott had 34c idle and 50c load
 
Raise your FSB to such a point that that the heat goes down, when they come from the factory the BIOS settings on your mob will be overvolting them .Mine is overclocked to 4ghz and i will tell you it is running cooler now after overclocking it than it was when i bought it.

Decrease the voltage or increase the lanes meaning the FSB which will decrease traffic and increase data transfer.
 
I upped my FSB (as mentioned above) on my 3800+ X2 and its rock solid. Mine idles at 38C and is 44-47C under load. Thats with TT 120MM intake, side, and exhaust, a Thermalright XP-120, and a TT Thunderblade 120MM in a high airflow case....... 48C idle is a bit warm, but well within limits.....I wouldnt get overly concerned unless it goes over 60 IMO
 
Thermaltake, Lian Li, and Coolermaster cases all deem a look if your replacing a case. If your looking at a full ATX tower, the Armor is VERY nice. I opted for the Soprano due to my need for a better mobo in leiu of a kickass looking case. With any of those 3 brands U cant go wrong.......

Solo
 
Nali said:
I have the same problem.

My CPU is at a constant 45C or higher and goes up to 70C under heavy load(Cellfactor).
It's an intel P4 3.2Ghz Prescott(800 Mhz FSB, HT, the whole 9 yards). I have it cooled with an Asus Crux. My ambient room temp is about 76F and my case temp is 26C.

I run an Antec P180 with 120CFM 120mm fans in all possible slots, and the 80mm slot has an 86CFM fan. Also, I have a northbridge cooler and little copper heatsinks on every little chipset I have(ie: memory, southbridge, anything black and square).

This is REALLY starting to get me angry and I'm thinking about getting water cooling to help it.

EDIT: I also have artic silver 5 on my HSF and have recently reseated it.
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How old was that AS5? I was having idle temps of 48-50C on my 805D when I used like 3 year old AS5
 
nooh said:
Raise your FSB to such a point that that the heat goes down, when they come from the factory the BIOS settings on your mob will be overvolting them .Mine is overclocked to 4ghz and i will tell you it is running cooler now after overclocking it than it was when i bought it.

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You have no clue what you are talking about.....you should remove the "h" at the end of your nick and replace it with a "b" :rolleyes:
 
First off do some cable tidying man! If you actually do some decent cabling job you could the temps down quite a bit. I would also suggest you get a more powerful intake fan such as a panaflo etc. I would suggest at least 80+ cfm on the intake
 
I have overclocked about 6 cpu,s in the last 6 months and all the cpu,s i did were more before i overclocked them.Now this is one e.g:-

I had a A8N-sli mobo and the BIOS on that made the CPU run at 1.47v, this made my 3200 run quite hot , somewhere in the region of 52c idle.

Anyway then i was thinking to about overclocking and i was reading articles on it and the first thing they said was that reduce the voltage on it to1.36v and so i did . My temps .went down to 32 idle also when i was overclocking i did notice another thing and that wasted voltage creates more heat than just overclocking.(overvolting)Not exactly rocket science is it.

If you look my CPU was overvolted by my bios which was suppose to be cool but even later when i overclocked to 2699mhz from 2000mhz it was still running cooler than what the bios had from before, also my cpu Vcore was at 1.49V

Its not rocket science but the voltage creates the heat and if the speed does not justify the voltage then its best if you put your FSB up or your CPU Vcore down and make it more effecient

The comment i wrote at top about this somebody just underneath me wrote something which didnt disagree with what i wrote.

Also i disrespected nobody .

One last thing my name is NOOH and its not a nick name ,I am clean with what i say and do not hide my identity. There are ways to disagree and calling names is not one of them
 
Get over it dude, fact is, you don't go from 2ghz, to 2.6ghz and get COOLER temps....n00b :p Ease up. Your posts made very little sense.
 
no one said to increase 600mhz , your the noob.

Only increase it to that the access current gets used up .

You would think after doing the 60 cpu,s you claim to have done you would have got that right. pwned :D

Yes your temps would go down cos it wont start after increasing that much .
 
I just got done reseating my HSF. I also have a 3800+ X2, but my temps are not that high.
OCed to 2.4ghz
Idle: 29-30C
Load: 52C (Both cores at 100%)....I was getting 55-60C before I reseated my HSF.
Gaming: 41-44C

Stock 2.0ghz
Idle: 29-30C
Load: 46-47C (Both cores at 100%)
Gaming 40-42C

I expect it to go down a few degrees after the AS5 settles a bit. But YMMV.

Good luck.
 
nooh said:
no one said to increase 600mhz , your the noob.

Only increase it to that the access current gets used up .

You would think after doing the 60 cpu,s you claim to have done you would have got that right. pwned :D

Yes your temps would go down cos it wont start after increasing that much .
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Really what are you talking about? Your not making any sense! The only way you can oc and reduce temps in doing so of overclocking is to go from a stock sink to more extreme form of cooling! Physics dictates that it can't be cooler if your making it run quicker; why do you think a stock 1.8 3000+ is cooler than a stock 2.6 FX-55?

EDITED: For mistake :rolleyes: should ahve read runs cooler not hotter :eek: :p
 
Firelord said:
Really what are you talking about? Your not making any sense! The only way you can oc and reduce temps in doing so of overclocking is to go from a stock sink to more extreme form of cooling! Physics dictates that it can't be cooler if your making it run quicker; why do you think a stock 1.8 3000+ is hotter than a stock 2.6 FX-55?
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My old 3200 venice with the bios version i had really heated my cpu up to 52c and the vcre was at 1.47 .

So when i started to overclock it i had to reduce the vcore to 1.34 and the temp went down to 32c.

If you see MOST cpu,s that you overclock you will notice that you can usually increase 200mhz without increasing the voltage,on the Pentium D you can do about 400-500mhz without increasing the Vcore.

What i am saying is to find the balance and this will to some extent reduce the temp.

If you see the new cores that come out today they are more efficient and run more cool compared to overall performance.than the iones from say last year, If the voltage is wasted and does not move from that point then naturally it will cause heat.

There has to be a balance and when your overclocking you are finding that balance. I have written all my findings on a paper and even draw out graphs with a pen. There are patterns and you learn from them.

You are right that physics tells you that speed will make it hot but that said it is after its threshold for the component is reach in order for the temps. to increase.

If its within the threshold and efficient then the temps. are more likely to decrease than increase. At no time did i say to increase the current.

NOTE:- This will only happen in the first 200-300mhz after that the components thresholds are met and the rule no longer applies.

When i started to overclock i tried the least current it needs for windows to start and the most current it can take before it cuts off.
Then i try to stay in the middle and draw a graph.

Faster clocks does mean heat , that is true but say your CPU before on idle was running 2000mhz and it was overvolted by 0.5v and it ran 52c on idle and 64c on load if i now increase the FSB to 2300 the load it use to run before wont use the cpu by 100% and only use 70% so now it is autamatically running cooler but then you get cartried away and now your concerns are speed so now the rule will no longer apply.

Before on load the CPU usage 100% but now its 70% , its not rocket science like i said.

I can remember before when i was burning a DVD my CPU did get very hot and 93% of the CPU got used whilst doing it but when i overclocked it only uses 38% so naturally it is going to run cooler , Again its not rocket science.Once i go pass the transistors efficient threshold then the means will not justify the end meaning overvolting your cpu. If its balanced and tweaked like i am saying it should be.

I am doing a MCSA in Microcomputers, i dont make this shit up.

I respect everybody and there are ways of putting your points across,

Anyway take care and i mean no offense.
 
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