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Heating Problem Q6600
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crazyjeeper
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Your temperatures look fine. Well within spec for your processor. I wouldn't worry unless a core temp exceeds 70C.
i was thinking the same thing. your north bridge and south bridge temps look high to me. and 80c for gpu while not gaming is also high unless its a fanless cooler, in that case i would have put a fan on it and zip tied it. i would also put a fan infront of the case just before the hard disk, which will suck air in and also move the ide cable away in the back of the motherboard. re arrange the psu cables so area around the cpu cooler and ram slots are clear and air can move freely.
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Redo the cabling, close up those holes in the PCI slots (use tape if necessary, but close them off), and get two tiny fans (steal 'em off junk or dead video cards if necessary) and clip/attach them to the heatsinks on the NB/SB, verify your fans are working correctly (cool air in from the front of the case, hot air exhausted out the back - verify the actual airflow), and that should help.
If you did something silly like spread out the thermal compound on the CPU heatspreader, consider redoing it the proper way with a thin line across the two cores in the quad as shown here in another post I made earlier:
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1033829501&postcount=2
Don't spread out the compound, the compression will take care of that, and a thin line of it, whatever you're using. That should help dramatically.
And the lapping is also a definite possibility if you wanna shave off 5-10C from those temps at idle... it really does work.
Also, make sure in your BIOS that the "Smart Fan" or whatever function is enabled so it'll alter the speed of the CPU fan as required based on heat production; I think the PWM setting is the appropriate one but every mobo is different. Yours looks like an actual Intel board to me (the NB heatsink gives it away and the blue RAM slot) so, it's somewhere in the BIOS...
If you did something silly like spread out the thermal compound on the CPU heatspreader, consider redoing it the proper way with a thin line across the two cores in the quad as shown here in another post I made earlier:
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1033829501&postcount=2
Don't spread out the compound, the compression will take care of that, and a thin line of it, whatever you're using. That should help dramatically.
And the lapping is also a definite possibility if you wanna shave off 5-10C from those temps at idle... it really does work.
Also, make sure in your BIOS that the "Smart Fan" or whatever function is enabled so it'll alter the speed of the CPU fan as required based on heat production; I think the PWM setting is the appropriate one but every mobo is different. Yours looks like an actual Intel board to me (the NB heatsink gives it away and the blue RAM slot) so, it's somewhere in the BIOS...
BillParrish
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It appears you have an 80mm rear fan installed in a grill that would take a 120mm (might be 90mm but the grill looks too large). Installing a med speed 120mm rear fan would do a lot to help air movement through the case and might allow you to reinstall the side panel.
If a front fan is not installed put one in, and if one is installed consider replacing it with a medium speed fan. Little more fan noise but again it will do wonders for case airflow.
The front panel (fascia) on most cases will pop off (check for screws - a few cases use them to hold on the front panel but most don't) by grabbing at the bottom and gently prying it off. Using a flat tool to help pry it off helps sometimes. Look at the vents in the plastic panel and consider if they could be opened up a little with a knife or dremel by removing some of the plastic.
Remove the front stamped in fan grill with tin snips. It is hidden by the front panel and so rough edges will not show and there is no real reason for a screen there as the screen is too big to filter dust and there is no way for a child's finger to get in there because of the front panel.
Consider adding a side panel fan, perhaps lining up with your NB or aligned so the air will hit both the NB and the CPU fan. It will required cutting a hole (metal cutting hole saw and electric drill is best but can be done by hand if looks are not critical) in the side panel and a fan with a fairly long electrical lead.
You temps are not alarming but do indicate that case airflow is weak, for the price of a couple of fans and a little modification work you should be able to bring them down significantly and get the side panel back on (for looks mainly) . Or just get a small desk fan and have it just blow air on the motherboard from the side and leave the panel off , not much on looks but it will cool things off in a hurry.
If a front fan is not installed put one in, and if one is installed consider replacing it with a medium speed fan. Little more fan noise but again it will do wonders for case airflow.
The front panel (fascia) on most cases will pop off (check for screws - a few cases use them to hold on the front panel but most don't) by grabbing at the bottom and gently prying it off. Using a flat tool to help pry it off helps sometimes. Look at the vents in the plastic panel and consider if they could be opened up a little with a knife or dremel by removing some of the plastic.
Remove the front stamped in fan grill with tin snips. It is hidden by the front panel and so rough edges will not show and there is no real reason for a screen there as the screen is too big to filter dust and there is no way for a child's finger to get in there because of the front panel.
Consider adding a side panel fan, perhaps lining up with your NB or aligned so the air will hit both the NB and the CPU fan. It will required cutting a hole (metal cutting hole saw and electric drill is best but can be done by hand if looks are not critical) in the side panel and a fan with a fairly long electrical lead.
You temps are not alarming but do indicate that case airflow is weak, for the price of a couple of fans and a little modification work you should be able to bring them down significantly and get the side panel back on (for looks mainly) . Or just get a small desk fan and have it just blow air on the motherboard from the side and leave the panel off , not much on looks but it will cool things off in a hurry.
flak-spammer
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Probably your biggest issue is that room temp. 37C is pretty scary for a room temp so it's unlikely that you'll get the same kind of temps other people would. Other than that put some small fans on the NB and SB and get a front fan and a larger rear fan.
That's what I was thinking. 37C is HOT dude. I would hate to live there.
You need more air moving through the case.
You should be able to drop those temps a lot... at least the GPU, NB, and SB temps.
Ideally, case temps should be no more than 2c higher than room temps.
Fastest way to lower the temps would be to cut a hole for a 120mm fan in the top of the case and install a fan sucking air out of the case. You may also need to either drill a whole bunch of holes in the bottom of the case or cut a nice big hole in the bottom of the case.... same size as the 120mm hole in the top of the case would be ideal.
If the extra airflow doesn't drop the GPU, NB, and SB temps quite enough, you can get another 80mm fan and point it in the general direction of the NB.... maybe have it mounted somewhere under the SB so air is also circulated to the SB and the GPU as well.
Just noticed the card right under the GPU.. if it is PCI, move that sucker down to the bottom PCI slot. You may also want to install an 80mm fan to specifically blow on the GPU.
Oh yeah.. and once you have done each mod, put the cover back on the case to test. Airflow without a forced path will no help at all. the case being closed forces the air to travel in a specific pattern.
You should be able to drop those temps a lot... at least the GPU, NB, and SB temps.
Ideally, case temps should be no more than 2c higher than room temps.
Fastest way to lower the temps would be to cut a hole for a 120mm fan in the top of the case and install a fan sucking air out of the case. You may also need to either drill a whole bunch of holes in the bottom of the case or cut a nice big hole in the bottom of the case.... same size as the 120mm hole in the top of the case would be ideal.
If the extra airflow doesn't drop the GPU, NB, and SB temps quite enough, you can get another 80mm fan and point it in the general direction of the NB.... maybe have it mounted somewhere under the SB so air is also circulated to the SB and the GPU as well.
Just noticed the card right under the GPU.. if it is PCI, move that sucker down to the bottom PCI slot. You may also want to install an 80mm fan to specifically blow on the GPU.
Oh yeah.. and once you have done each mod, put the cover back on the case to test. Airflow without a forced path will no help at all. the case being closed forces the air to travel in a specific pattern.
I rearranged my wiring and then closed all unused PCI slots with tape. I have removed rear fan and replaced it with new one. Then i installed another fan on the side panel which directly blows above GPU. I have removed that LAN card also... I dont need that anyway. So now after doing all this and closing both side panels, these are the new temps.
Stanley Pain
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Those NB/SB temps are a little on the hot side, but if you're not having any random crashes/bluescreens it's probably ok. The only thing left would be to add some active cooling on to those heatsinks on your NB/SB.