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HDMI cables

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mclebron23

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I wasnt sure where to post this but i have a quick question. im getting a monitor for christmas and will be hooking my xbox 360 and ps3 through HDMI. Does it matter what kind of cable i get in terms of quality, meaning, if i get the official microsoft HDMI cable will the picture look better than if i got one on monoprice for 5$ bucks?

Also is picture quality the same or worse if i use a DVI to HDMI cable compared to a regular HDMI male to male cable for my PS3? any answers will be nice. thanks .
 
monoprice cables are just as good, save the $.

And DVI adaptors don't degrade the signal. They don't touch the video portion, only strip out the audio. IIRC HDMI is simply DVI with an audio signal.
 
DVI can carry audio and video, but no equipment really utilizes this. Monoprice builds top quality cables, you do not have to worry about them compared to microsofts POS cable.
 
evanisthecoastie said:
DVI can carry audio and video, but no equipment really utilizes this. Monoprice builds top quality cables, you do not have to worry about them compared to microsofts POS cable.
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The microsoft cable isn't a POS -- it's just expensive compared to monoprice, and offeres no benefits.
 
fortunately, with stuff like DVI and HDMI, it usually doesn't matter who you buy the cable from. It's not like analog cables that were dependent on shielding and cable composition because of noise.
 
HDMI cables, from the very cheap to the super expensive (Monster) have shown to have no real world difference under the 6 ft mark. Over 10 meters of HDMI you should buy a more expensive cable and it should still work and only if that cable gives you screen ghosting should you try something like a Monster. The only thing Monster cables are good for is 1080p at 50ft+ because theirs simply no where near enough EMI/noise generated in under that needs that quality of cable. I'm quite happy with the quality of my 99 cent HDMI cable.
 
bigdogchris said:
HDMI cables, from the very cheap to the super expensive (Monster) have shown to have no real world difference under the 6 ft mark. Over 10 meters of HDMI you should buy a more expensive cable and it should still work and only if that cable gives you screen ghosting should you try something like a Monster. The only thing Monster cables are good for is 1080p at 50ft+ because theirs simply no where near enough EMI/noise generated in under that needs that quality of cable. I'm quite happy with the quality of my 99 cent HDMI cable.
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Nonsense. There is never a need for a "high quality" hdmi cable, no matter the length.
 
Monster does not make extremely good cables they just overprice for normal cables.
 
just buy a couple cables from Monoprice and keep em as spares, you'll be fine bro

Personally I couldn't wait on shipping and ended up buying a $30 HDMI cable from Wal Mart

while I don't regret doing that

I do realize I coulda just been a little more patient :(
 
bigdogchris said:
HDMI cables, from the very cheap to the super expensive (Monster) have shown to have no real world difference under the 6 ft mark. Over 10 meters of HDMI you should buy a more expensive cable and it should still work and only if that cable gives you screen ghosting should you try something like a Monster. The only thing Monster cables are good for is 1080p at 50ft+ because theirs simply no where near enough EMI/noise generated in under that needs that quality of cable. I'm quite happy with the quality of my 99 cent HDMI cable.
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I got a bridge to sell you sir, seems like marketing fluff works on you.

My bridge is the most awesome bridge in the world, that's why you should buy it, but i'll mention up front, there's no real difference between my bridge and any other bridge, it's just that I proclaim that my bridge is the most awesome bridge in the world!!!!
 
HDMI is a digital signal, either it works or it does not work. Basically all HDMI cables are created equal. Go to monoprice.com, I got an in wall rated 30ft HDMI cable for around $26 shipped.
 
While it's true that HDMI is a digital connection - I have definitely had some that were poorly crafted and were a loose fit...and as a result you might get a audio from 1-2 speakers (instead of 5) until you wiggle the input. That's more of a construction issue than anything else.
The ones from Monoprice are usually really good, but I have gotten one that pretty much never fit correctly. That said...at $4-5 each, just order a bunch. It's still cheaper than a single cable from Monster.
 
elrechazao said:
Nonsense. There is never a need for a "high quality" hdmi cable, no matter the length.
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For 50ft+ legnth, significant ghosting can happen with poor quality cables. Sorry.

Zachstar said:
Monster does not make extremely good cables they just overprice for normal cables.
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Yes they are overpriced but the quality is good. However, other companies make cables of similar quality and are much less expensive. Monster cables are a rip-off for you get I will give you that.

Fail said:
I got a bridge to sell you sir, seems like marketing fluff works on you.

My bridge is the most awesome bridge in the world, that's why you should buy it, but i'll mention up front, there's no real difference between my bridge and any other bridge, it's just that I proclaim that my bridge is the most awesome bridge in the world!!!!
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You guys are so funny. I don't own Monster products and never will. I've actually researched this a little and like I said, there is a difference for the 50ft+ length. You need higher quality cables for that length. I'm sure a lot of companies make very good high quality cables of that length, Monster is the only one I can think of at the moment.
 
elrechazao said:
Still nonsense. Sorry.
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Cable quality does matter for long distances. It's been proven. Now, it's been proven you don't need to pay as much as Monster cost, but again, it was the only higher end brand I thought of at the moment. Cheap cables will give you significant ghosting at long distances 50ft +. Lower distances under 30 ft, qualty doesn't matter as much under 1080p and short distances 6ft it made absolutely zero difference. Higher quality cables carry the signal better because there is less noise and signal loss. It's no different than with networking. Around 2-300 ft you need a repeater or you get to much loss/noise.
 
Stereophile said:
And DVI adaptors don't degrade the signal. They don't touch the video portion, only strip out the audio. IIRC HDMI is simply DVI with an audio signal.
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As far as I know they don't strip anything, since that would require 'active' circuitry to deframe the data and strip the audio. HDMI and DVI share the same electrical interface, and the same data link protocol. Audio is sent 'in between' video frames, where a DVI device will just ignore it. DVI doesn't define what to do with this in-between data, while HDMI does.

So if you go HDMI->DVI->HDMI you should still get audio, same as how audio can still work with a DVI video card, however the DVI specification itself doesn't include audio.
 
elrechazao said:
Nonsense. There is never a need for a "high quality" hdmi cable, no matter the length.
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Nonsense. When building home theaters with long HDMI runs behind the framework (many times upwards of 75 feet), generic HDMI cables start to ghost and many times have searching for signal connection failures. There are better cables out there (though not Monster expensive), that have better shielding and bending resistance (data loss on binding) for those long run build outs.

Many times owners have requested to supply their own cables, only to call back and have them replaced.

For your average entertainment center (90+% of homes), the short run mono price cables are more than sufficient.

If you want to learn about the stats of HDMI, visit us at www.avforums.com. We can get you up to date.
 
Bogie 19th said:
Nonsense. When building home theaters with long HDMI runs behind the framework (many times upwards of 75 feet), generic HDMI cables start to ghost and many times have searching for signal connection failures. There are better cables out there (though not Monster expensive), that have better shielding and bending resistance (data loss on binding) for those long run build outs.

Many times owners have requested to supply their own cables, only to call back and have them replaced.

For your average entertainment center (90+% of homes), the short run mono price cables are more than sufficient.

If you want to learn about the stats of HDMI, visit us at www.avforums.com. We can get you up to date.
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"Us"? heh, ok man.
 
Yup. I take it you don't visit there often? Many of us are lifers there, lol. I have posted my home theater build out here as well and had to do long HDMI runs when I built out the lower level and made a media room behind the home theater area. Fun stuff.
 
Another vote for monoprice or even bluejeans!!! I have been an AVSForum member for close to two years now and their info is bar-none the best.... Most of the people there are industry professionals from many of the sponsor sites, which means you can get tech support even late or on odd hours. They are the reason that I went with my Vizio TV, will be building my own sub, Mini Statements and be consulting with them when I plan on doing my GigE network install in my house.
 
If you want top of the line cables go with Monster. They are the best bang for the buck.
 
Make of HDMI will not make a difference in picture quality as it's a digital signal.
On that note, make sure your display is HDCP compliant if you planned on using a monitor with the PS3. I heard this is a requirement with the PS3, not so on the Xbox 360. Most newer monitors have HDCP, so it's mostly an issue with older models.
 
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