Having SATA + IDE is not good

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Well today I put in my IDE HD 250gb as now don't have much room left in my SATA but I wasnt planning to get another SATA HD. Right now my comp is SORTA feeling slow but i'm not sure if its either the transfering i'm doing from old HD to new SATA HD. But other than that can IDE and SATA work well together? such as no lag and etc? I havent did this before and this is my first time. If it sucks with IDE and SATA together than i'm going out to get a 500gb SATA HD today.

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IDE HDDs are slower than SATA HDDs.

It sounds like you have multiple hard drives. As long as the IDE drive isn't being used for the OS or programs, it shouldn't slow down your system. If I were you, I'd just use the IDE HDD for storage, and use the SATA drives for the OS and programs.

I personally only use IDE for optical drives.
 
r-486 said:
IDE HDDs are slower than SATA HDDs.

It sounds like you have multiple hard drives. As long as the IDE drive isn't being used for the OS or programs, it shouldn't slow down your system. If I were you, I'd just use the IDE HDD for storage, and use the SATA drives for the OS and programs.

I personally only use IDE for optical drives.
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the IDE interface currently is no bottleneck for normal HDD usage, the only way a IDE HDD can be slower is if it is older then the sata disc, or if you are purely reading from the disk cache.

and seagate started cripling their Latest IDE drives to push sata (dumb move imho, people who decide on IDE will get IDE anyway, and now wont get seagate)

running IDE and SATA side by side shouldnt give any problems at all, ive done that myself (currently im SATA only, even the optical)
 
DrFreeze said:
the IDE interface currently is no bottleneck for normal HDD usage, the only way a IDE HDD can be slower is if it is older then the sata disc, or if you are purely reading from the disk cache.
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For the most part, I agree. IDE is barely slower than SATA, but they're not equal. The result is probably not even noticeable. The hard drive itself and its RPM are more important factors than its interface.

DrFreeze said:
(currently im SATA only, even the optical)
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I see no advantage of running a SATA DVD drive other than airflow due to a smaller cable.:D I'd rather use all my SATA sockets for hard drives, so I might as well take advantage of the IDE sockets for optical drives.
 
My last system had 2 sata drives in a raid0 array and a ide storage drive.

Never noticed any kind of slowdowns or anything. I'd guess any that you are getting is from the computer slowing down from the transfers you said you were doing.
 
r-486 said:
I see no advantage of running a SATA DVD drive other than airflow due to a smaller cable.:D I'd rather use all my SATA sockets for hard drives, so I might as well take advantage of the IDE sockets for optical drives.
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my main reason for the sata optical was cable management, i detest those big flatcables in my system, not just do they block airflow, they also make it a living hell to do a clean wiring job without having some wackey kind of flatcable origami going on (yes i know about rounded cables, dont like em either)

you do have a point reserving the SATA ports for HDDs though, i just added a 500 GB driver, taking the last of my 4 sata ports, which feels a bit limiting, but in all honesty i do know that by the time ill need another storage space expansion, ill be at least one motherboard further down the road, ill just have to make sure that 6 SATA ports ends up on my wishlist the next time i go shopping for a new mobo (either that or toss one of the older drives out of the system)
 
glad you posted this. I am ordering a SATA drive this Friday from NewEgg, and I plan to make the SATA the primary drive, and use the IDE for storage. I was wondering if this would cause any problems, and it sounds like it doesn't.
 
MVSdinosaur said:
glad you posted this. I am ordering a SATA drive this Friday from NewEgg, and I plan to make the SATA the primary drive, and use the IDE for storage. I was wondering if this would cause any problems, and it sounds like it doesn't.
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Perhaps I wasn't clear in my post. The IDE drive may be faster than the SATA one. It solely depends on the hard disks. For example, my WD Raptor running at 10k RPM is much faster than my WD Caviars running at 7.4k RPM.

There shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't run them in RAID.
 
I don't have a problem in one of my systems. I have 4 IDE drives and 6 SATA drives. I do notice a slow down on 1 of my drives, but that is because of I believe 1 of the ports on my controller card is failing.
 
MVSdinosaur said:
glad you posted this. I am ordering a SATA drive this Friday from NewEgg, and I plan to make the SATA the primary drive, and use the IDE for storage. I was wondering if this would cause any problems, and it sounds like it doesn't.
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Just make sure to unplug the IDE drive before installing Windows. It likes to put the boot info on the IDE drive (At least I know 100% it does for RAID arrays) which can make things a pain in the rear if you pull that drive out of the system.
 
WintersFury said:
Just make sure to unplug the IDE drive before installing Windows. It likes to put the boot info on the IDE drive (At least I know 100% it does for RAID arrays) which can make things a pain in the rear if you pull that drive out of the system.
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yup, windows in general is a bitch in that regard, and that isnt IDE exclusive either, my 250 GB sata disc has a boot record referring to my 160 GB SATA, which actually has the OS on it (this can get really confusing if your boot drive isnt recognized, due to a wonky bios, but the second drive is)
 
If your system is slow, it can be the following things:

A) Cheap SATA Controller, offloads all the resources to the processor and rest of the system... causing the entire machine to be slow

B) Bad Drive, causing a slow system

C) System drive on the same drive as being transfered to another drive


I'm suspecting it's just a C.


SATA and IDE runs well together and the performance decrease to IDE isn't bad or even much noticable.
 
I took all your advices and have my IDE as my storage only drive (movies,clips,shows, etc) while my SATA is where all the good stuff are... games,programs, and OS. After having it installed for the past 2-3 days I havent noticed a difference but my OS startup is quite well slower (i think). I considered on getting another SATA drive later this weekend and going to test it out by going 2x SATA and seeing the differnece it will be from SATA+IDE. If no difference then I shall have 2x SATA + 1 IDE :D

Thanks guys.
 
wow after testing out 2x SATA vs SATA and IDE. I can say 2x SATA is the best option to go. Having SATA and IDE is just the worst combo in my opinion. My loading of windows at startup is SOOOO much faster then before with 2x SATA. Screw IDE I'm going full SATA now.
 
acee said:
wow after testing out 2x SATA vs SATA and IDE. I can say 2x SATA is the best option to go. Having SATA and IDE is just the worst combo in my opinion. My loading of windows at startup is SOOOO much faster then before with 2x SATA. Screw IDE I'm going full SATA now.
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That was probably a BIOS setting...it probably boots faster now that it does not need to scan the IDE channels looking for drives...having IDE and SATA in the same system will make no difference in boot times if its set up properly.
 
acee said:
wow after testing out 2x SATA vs SATA and IDE. I can say 2x SATA is the best option to go. Having SATA and IDE is just the worst combo in my opinion. My loading of windows at startup is SOOOO much faster then before with 2x SATA. Screw IDE I'm going full SATA now.
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You're experiencing the placebo effect. :rolleyes:
 
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