Hard drive errors, time to get a new one?

Discussion in 'SSDs & Data Storage' started by verysame, Nov 26, 2019.

  1. verysame

    verysame n00b

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    Hi there,

    Noob question: when you get errors like this, does that mean it is time to get a new hard drive?

    Raw Read Error Rate: 81/44, Worst: 78
    Seek Error Rate: 60/45, Worst: 60
    End to End Error Detection Count: 100/99, Worst: 100

    For the record, the data comes from a S.M.A.R.T. test I did following some issues with the internal hard drive. Randomly, folders disappeared. After a check disk, I've got the folders back, but then it happened again. Luckily, with the check disk, I've been able to recover the folders.
     
  2. drescherjm

    drescherjm [H]ardForum Junkie

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    What does CrystalDIskInfo say?



    I have hundreds of drives (between home and work) and I have used SMART for over a decade to help predict failures. With that said I don't use the SMART attributes that you highlighted.

    Here is a script I use in linux:
    https://raw.githubusercontent.com/d...y/master/Other/shell-scripts/examine_smart.sh

    The key fields I use from that are:

    Reallocated_Sector_Ct, Current_Pending_Sector, Offline_Uncorrectable, UDMA_CRC_Error_Count,Hardware_ECC_Recovered,Command_Timeout, and Power_On_Hours

    All these you want to ideally have 0 value for the raw data: Reallocated_Sector_Ct, Current_Pending_Sector, Offline_Uncorrectable, UDMA_CRC_Error_Count,Hardware_ECC_Recovered,Command_Timeout
     
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  3. verysame

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    Thank you, drescherjm

    I should have mentioned I use Windows 10. Is there an equivalent for Windows?
     
  4. drescherjm

    drescherjm [H]ardForum Junkie

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    CrystalDIskInfo is the easiest option
     
  5. verysame

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    Thank you, dresherjm

    I'll double check CrystakDiskInfo as that's exactly what I used for the test I did above.
    I'll see if there's something else other than the S.M.A.R.T. test.
     
  6. drescherjm

    drescherjm [H]ardForum Junkie

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    There is paid windows software that I recommend:

    https://www.hdsentinel.com/

    https://www.hdsentinel.com/screenshots.php#surfacetest

    On linux I have an extensive test using a program called badblocks. I prefer to use the 4 pass data destructive read / write test. Note: The destructive test will destroy all data on the drive after the test starts and there will be no recovery. There is a non-destructive test but I almost always use the destructive mode.
     
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  7. pendragon1

    pendragon1 [H]ardForum Junkie

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    hdtune still works. you can trial the pro version to do a scan on it.
     
  8. Kardonxt

    Kardonxt 2[H]4U

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    If it's a secondary drive I just run Data Lifeguard Diag for Windows from WD. If it's a primary drive I plug it into a different computer to make it a secondary and still run Data Lifeguard lol. I run a long test and replace the drive if it fails.

    I largely don't pay attention to SMART values except for the rare instance it actually warns me of an impending drive failure.

    Make sure you backup your data before running any tests as the extra load can kill a failing drive.