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Guess which virtualization solution I hate!?....

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Server 2k8 Enterprise R2 + Hyper-V


Oh god. Not only is is the configuration of basic Server 2k8 roles and features retarded (you cannot activate more than one feature or role at a time, without rebooting), but the damn thing ate my original profile, and then locked it, so that I couldn't get into it.

I don't like the networking, at all. This was deployed on a laptop as a test, and the hope was to use the wireless interface. The wireless would not connect on the 5GHz antenna, at all (saw no 5GHz SSIDs), so I was forced to use the congested 2.4GHz antenna (after an hour of fighting with 2k8 to even GET connected).

Once the networking was squared away, I deployed the Hyper-V role, and rebooted. I found that I could not mount an ISO to the VMs DVD drive if I had enabled another feature/role without rebooting (retarded). I also found that when Hyper-V creates that VM Network with the virtual 10Gb interface, it takes all of the IP information that you had assigned to the physical adapter, and basically chucks it. This forces you to set up networking (again) on the virtual interface (fun).

Not only that, but the Virtual network would not attach to anything other than the wired interface on the laptop. It would not allow me to attach the virtual network to the wireless interface, meaning that any VM updates that I would need to do, or any access that I wanted them to have to central file shares, would had to have been over the wired interface. Great thinking...very flexible.

Now, I realize that I probably should have known better than to try some of the stuff that I tried, but really...what the hell? Also, I just was reading through the clustering/HA guide for Hyper-V, and found that the only supported disk subsystem for clustered hosts/failover is iSCSI!? The only one?

I'm gonna try CentOS with KVM now...

/rant


laptop specs (for the curious):

Sager NP9262
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.0GHz (pinmod)
4GB PC2-6400
3x Fujitsu 5400RPM 2.5" in RAID-0
8800m GTX 512
17" WUSXGA 1920x1200 Glossy
2.0MP camera
20,000,000 lbs (not including AC adapter)
 
Yea I came to the same conclusion.

I have been messing with R2, and it really is not much of an improvment over the first Version.
Not being able to use the Wireless is a major deal killer for me personally, as I was using it on a laptop as well.

Ill just be sticking with VMware Workstation for the time being.

Lets us know how CentOS goes.
I put it in a VM the other just to mess around with it, and I could not for the life of me get VMware tools to install.
Something about header mismatch? Not sure so I need investigate that.
 
I got Server 2008 + Hyper-V running on a test computer. It's working fine now, but it was more of a pain to set up that it should have been. I had most trouble installing the management tools, which required some tweaking just to get remote workstations to connect in a workgroup environment. You know Hyper-V's not well polished when someone from the Hyper-V team posts a script to fix this issue on his blog.

I also had issues with the network adapters - ultimately having to give the virtual machines their own dedicated NIC instead of sharing with the host. And to do this you have to unbind TCP/IP from the virtual adapter on the Hyper-V host after it's created. You'd think there would be a more elegant solution than that - like a "dedicated NIC" option in Hyper-V.

I haven't tried R2, but I hope it's a bit more polished.
 
It's not.

As for CentOS with Xen...no dice. No Xen kernel drivers available for the laptop. Networking issues abounded, even just trying to use the built in WIRED connection. I couldn't get anything past my physical NIC port. Switch said I was connected, and linked...but no talkie.

On to Ubuntu Server w/KVM, then (installing now). Server 2k8 + Hyper-V needs A LOT of work. I'd rather use a desktop OS and VMWare Workstation or Server than that bullshit.
 
Sabregen

Not really sure what you are looking to accomplish, but maybe LVS would work?
Not familiar with it at all, but i thought I throw that into the melting pot.
 
arg...not digging KVM either. I found it to be easier to set up than Hyper-V (which is interesting, in and of itself), but I need ease of management. I can't do command line provisioning for VMs, just to mess around with it. Good lord, man...this is not going well.

So far I've tried Hyper-V, Xen under CentOS, and KVM under Ubuntu. I'll look intoyour suggestion, nitrobass24.

Anyone else got anything?
 
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