GTX4U Nightmare continues.

[Malogato]

Since the mods closed my other thread (with it still remaining unresolved..), AGAIN, I now have to open my third thread related to this deal.


http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=20765&expand[0]=355854

GTX4U, in "retaliation" has decided to take it upon himself to just "make up" stuff now, [I sold him a pentium computer system off of hardforum? Funny.. I haven't had one for sale on hardforum.. I had a p4 mobo & cpu combo [which I sold to cannon, not gtx4u].. I had an amd / shuttle SN45G which I sold to marklar.. but, uhm, No pentium computers...

Please remember this if you decide to have dealings with him.

 

[techdude01]

That just plain sucks. Thx for the warning.

 

[ScArE2100]

Hmm I sold a 3800+ newcastle to him just a few days ago, he paid quickly, I shipped it and left him heat. He hasn't installed it yet but he seemed to be a good trader to me, sorry to hear you're having problems with him, but everything seemed okay to me!

 

[Malogato]

Hmm I sold a 3800+ newcastle to him just a few days ago, he paid quickly, I shipped it and left him heat. He hasn't installed it yet but he seemed to be a good trader to me, sorry to hear you're having problems with him, but everything seemed okay to me!

Yeah.. I have your heatsink.


Oh, and I have a feeling that the reason your deal went so well was because you were the SELLER..

 

[ScArE2100]

Yeah.. I have your heatsink.

very likely How is it working out for you ?

 

[Malogato]

very likely How is it working out for you ?

Well, it is keeping the processor which likes to repeatedly lockup, fail prime95 after 30 seconds, etc.. quite cool. I'm running at about 27c, but with a system that doesn't stay on for more than say.. 30 minutes. that's to be expected.

 

[Vertigo Acid]

http://www.heatware.com/support_faq.php#6
Heatware will remove retailtory negatives

 

[ymer]

this guy makes me sick, what a fukn twat, you should contact trollhunters and the anandtech troll listing to expose his name and address

 

[Malogato]

http://www.heatware.com/support_faq.php#6
Heatware will remove retailtory negatives

Yeah, I'm aware of that. It's the principal of the thing.

 

[feigned]

Man, what a tool.

Needs more retribution!

 

[brycejones]

What a PITA good luck!

 

[BioPort]

Malogato,

You have exposed the guy for a troll, give it a rest.

Heres a tip: pay with your credit card through paypal, that way you can do a chargeback if the product you get is unsatisfactory and the seller wont do anything about it. I learned this lesson the hard way when I was sent an x800 that was doa (i paid $400 for it).

 

[Malogato]

Malogato,

You have exposed the guy for a troll, give it a rest.

Wow.. so pretentious. Thank you for telling me what I should, or should not, do.

1) The thread where I exposed him as a troll is a completely different thread.
1a) Despite my prior request to the mods, they closed that thread


2) *This* thread is about the fact that he left me retaliatory, negative heatware.

3) I may discuss the fact that he is a troll as often, and as much, as I wish. How dare you presume to have the temerity to tell me to "give it a rest" .
If you don't want to hear about his trolling.. then, you know what? Don't read my thread.

Heres a tip: pay with your credit card through paypal, that way you can do a chargeback if the product you get is unsatisfactory and the seller wont do anything about it. I learned this lesson the hard way when I was sent an x800 that was doa (i paid $400 for it).

Even if I was to have used my credit card, it would not resolve the issue for me. My credit card company would most likely charge the amount back to paypal.. (you know, the ACTUAL company that I paid?) and then paypal would come after me for said chargeback.


4) My paypal account had a balance in it. How do you get paypal to not use your BALANCE? (as I had just been paid for something via paypal 12 hours previous)


5) Lets just say that, since I know where he lives, there are alternatives.

 

[gtx4u]

So, who wants to hear my story?

 

[gtx4u]

Well for those of you who want to, here it is...

I bought a brand-new AMD 64 3500, it was factory sealed from eBay some time ago last year. At the time I already had a AMD 64 3200 intalled so when I got the 3500 I didn't bother to install the thing right away.

I'll admit that I opened the box, and picked out the box to check CPU to see if it was ok from the shipping from my Seller on eBay. Also I decided to sell the stock heatsink on eBay for some money, But I didn't realize the heatsink was so important for the warranty back then. But I never install the CPU, not even once, so there was no way for me to tell if it was a bad CPU or a good CPU.

Due to schoolwork I got carried away, the 3500+ just sat there on my shelf for several months. Until one day I got enough heatware and decided to sell it on the internet.

I sold it to malogato, he says it's missing a heatsink so I bought a 3800+ CPU with stock heatsink, and shipped the stock heatsink to him. I thought that would satisfy him.

Few days later he leaves me a negative heatware feedback without asking for Refund first.

Also before he left the negative heatware. I didn't know the CPU was a bad one, he didn't tell me he want a refund at all. After I got the negative I asked him why did he do it. He leaves negative heat, then he tells me he wants a refund and the CPU is a bad one. What a genius.....

 

[gtx4u]

Also I'd like you to know that, If I knew the god damn CPU was bad, do you think I would've sell it in the first place? I would never want a negative heatware.

 

[gtx4u]

Wow.. so pretentious. Thank you for telling me what I should, or should not, do.

1) The thread where I exposed him as a troll is a completely different thread.
1a) Despite my prior request to the mods, they closed that thread


2) *This* thread is about the fact that he left me retaliatory, negative heatware.

3) I may discuss the fact that he is a troll as often, and as much, as I wish. How dare you presume to have the temerity to tell me to "give it a rest" .
If you don't want to hear about his trolling.. then, you know what? Don't read my thread.



Even if I was to have used my credit card, it would not resolve the issue for me. My credit card company would most likely charge the amount back to paypal.. (you know, the ACTUAL company that I paid?) and then paypal would come after me for said chargeback.


4) My paypal account had a balance in it. How do you get paypal to not use your BALANCE? (as I had just been paid for something via paypal 12 hours previous)


5) Lets just say that, since I know where he lives, there are alternatives.

Doesn't it feel good to over-react and suddenly have a negative heatware?

Since I know where you live, there are alternatives for me too.

 

[hardnewb]

Doesn't it feel good to over-react and suddenly have a negative heatware?

Since I know where you live, there are alternatives for me too.

and

Well for those of you who want to, here it is...

I bought a brand-new AMD 64 3500, it was factory sealed from eBay some time ago last year. At the time I already had a AMD 64 3200 intalled so when I got the 3500 I didn't bother to install the thing right away.

I'll admit that I opened the box, and picked out the box to check CPU to see if it was ok from the shipping from my Seller on eBay. Also I decided to sell the stock heatsink on eBay for some money, But I didn't realize the heatsink was so important for the warranty back then. But I never install the CPU, not even once, so there was no way for me to tell if it was a bad CPU or a good CPU.

Due to schoolwork I got carried away, the 3500+ just sat there on my shelf for several months. Until one day I got enough heatware and decided to sell it on the internet.

I sold it to malogato, he says it's missing a heatsink so I bought a 3800+ CPU with stock heatsink, and shipped the stock heatsink to him. I thought that would satisfy him.

Few days later he leaves me a negative heatware feedback without asking for Refund first.

Also before he left the negative heatware. I didn't know the CPU was a bad one, he didn't tell me he want a refund at all. After I got the negative I asked him why did he do it. He leaves negative heat, then he tells me he wants a refund and the CPU is a bad one. What a genius.....

Ok, could you explain to us what exactly in this deal gives you the right to fabricate some retaliatory negative feedback against him?

 

[morgwon]

and


Ok, could you explain to us what exactly in this deal gives you the right to fabricate some retaliatory negative feedback against him?

exactly. All you had to do was come on here and reply when he put up his first thread. I think it goes without saying that if buyer gets back to you and reports that there is something wrong with the item the seller should offer ways to fix the problem. You still have a chance to make this right for the buyer. The made up retaliatory negative makes you look all the more trollish.

 

[Malogato]

I sold it to malogato, he says it's missing a heatsink so I bought a 3800+ CPU with stock heatsink, and shipped the stock heatsink to him. I thought that would satisfy him.

Few days later he leaves me a negative heatware feedback without asking for Refund first.

I had a troll thread running for several days,
You were PM'ed, and emailed, multiple times. Your phone was called, but since your parents don't even know who you are, that was moot.
Mods sent you pm's telling you to reply to the troll thread.

ALl of this went unanswered. Finally, after waiting many days for your reply, and 2 days with the cpu being defective, then, finally being told by you that "I must not know what I'm doing" I left you negative heatware.

This was of course, after I had said to you (and in the "you are a troll" thread) that I wanted my money back.

Also before he left the negative heatware. I didn't know the CPU was a bad one, he didn't tell me he want a refund at all. After I got the negative I asked him why did he do it. He leaves negative heat, then he tells me he wants a refund and the CPU is a bad one. What a genius.....

Maybe you should check your pm's more often.

I like how you change the chronology of things for your benefit.

It still does not excuse the fact that you left bogus heatware (should I say.. fraudulent? - you completely fabricated the concept of me selling you something, whereas, even if I had overreacted, you did at least, you must admit, screw up)

Since I know where you live, there are alternatives for me too.

Why is it that when you say it, it sounds like a physical threat (which, I believe is a crime?)

How about the fact that I feel like throwing a rock at his face when I see him in real life?

Oh, this might be why.

Well, to that, I say..

I live in florida. We are a state that has a "Stand your ground" (shoot first, don't even worry about asking questions) law.

Despite the fact that I can have you arrested for fraud..
Despite the fact that your statement is a threat of bodily harm [not that i'm exactly quivering in my boots, mind you]

You still refuse to do the simplest thing. Behave like the responsible seller you *claim* to be.

Not that I am the favorite son here, but, with the exception of a few people who shall remain nameless, I think the majority of the community feels that I have handled this as well as is to be expected.

The part that bugs me the most about all of this is that you feel I am to blame for your actions.


FYI

The reason why I posted the "you are a troll thread" was so you COULD tell your side of the story. Since you were not communicating much (and when you were, you were basically telling me that I'm a stupid person, who doesn't know how to use a cpu, and that it is my fault for not purchasing a heatsink). It was my hope that there would be some actual dialog going on here.

Honestly. At this very moment, what would make me happiest is to have this cpu replaced (as I have since purchased a 2nd mobo and cpu elsewhere) and wish to use said 2nd motherboard to upgrade my gf's computer.



As you cancelled my paypal refund request (it must be a *refund* not a payment, otherwise I'll get charged a paypal fee...) I can only assume that you no longer intend to give me back my $185. But, that's ok.. It is my intention to have this cpu replaced by amd. This is what I wish to be the outcome.

My 'bones of contention' here are that :

1) Since I'll have to pay a small amount of cash to send the cpu back to AMD, a partial refund would be considered an alternative, to you "losing all the $$ I paid you"

I humbly suggest $7 which will cover the shipping cost + $185 insurance to california.

My paypal account awaits.

2) You told me to go purchase another heatsink.
I took this to mean that you would not give me the heatsink I actually paid for.
With that in mind, I went and purchased a heatsink. I spent approximately $30 (I have the receipt somewhere) and in my thread that 'points you out as a troll' I even show the distance i had to drive to go get it. - I factor in my total expense at $45.

I do not want, nor need, this big ass copper heatsink. The stock heatsink is actually quite fine! So, here is what I suggest on this is that you purchase the heatsink from me. I will chalk the fuel expenses up to "experience" - as I also ended up "Making the most of it" and took that same opportunity to go to a restaurant I like down in that area.
I will send you this heatsink, for $35 shipped. It costs, new, at best buy, $29.99 + tax and shipping. It will come with some knock-off thermal interface material that they included with it, and it's clear 80mm fan.

I am doing everything in my power to be fair.


Let me reiterate one, tiny, point.

If you had said "NO HSF" none of this fiasco would have occured

 

[hardnewb]

He sure wants to dig himself a hole. He was 100% in the wrong on multiple levels:

1. Selling as new without required materials for warranty
2. Telling you to buy a new part to fix something that was his fault
3. Broken item
4. Removed as requested.

I could probably think of more if I really wanted to.

He is now the first addition to my DNT list. Definitely not someone I would want to deal with.

 

[Cold Dark Shadow]

I did ask him why he left the heat and the only thing i got was

"He send me some foul e-mails, that's all I can say. And from my point of view he's probably a little kid with no respect."

This was after he replied with threats (that i deleted and have warned him about doing again) of throwing a piece of earth in your headeral region.

Im assuming since he replied to that PM, that he did get the others that were sent before he replied here.

 

[Malogato]

FYI : Chronology


Paid for Retail Kit on 9/28/05

Paypal clip
 Sep. 28, 2005 	 Payment To Stuffy Pie 	 Completed  -$185.00 USD

As best as I can figure,

9/30/05. He shipped. Possibly after that. I don't completely know for 100%.
2 days is reasonable.

10/7/05
Package received.
NO HSF


10/7/05
PM and email sent regarding missing HSF.

10/8/05 His reply

The retail heatsink is worth about 6 dollars is that what u want? BTW the heatsink has never been registered, so I hope u know how to use the warranty. U can have the warranty as long as u have CPU, Heatsink, and the warranty paper that never been registered online.

This would be the first time I feel he is trying to belittle my 'complaint'. I feel it also shows that he does not understand his error. "The heatsink has never been registered, so I hope u know how to use warranty" -
The fact of the matter is.. the SERIAL # on the HSF and the SERIAL# on the cpu are supposed to match _ The replacement HSF he sent me had a different serial # on it.

10/8/05
I reply that I do not want the $6, (because I know that it'll cost more like.. $15-$20 to get the STOCK hsf (ebay sale price + sellers shipping costs) and that I would prefer it if he just sends me the missing HSF.

To which he replies

I didn't know that a simple heatsink can be so important.... but you can always buy a Venus 12 copper one which is way better for cooling/overclocking at some sites that ships 3 days instantly for under 25 dollars. When u "REALLY" need the warranty if the proccesor breaks, just buy a cheap AMD stock heatsink from eBay and send it back to AMD that's what I do... I really don't understand why is it such a big deal.. I'm sorry if I caused u trouble. Proccesors don't break that easily unless ur doing hardcore voltage and overclocking. But I never used that proccesor even once I can swear to god on that.

Here he tells me to 1) Buy a 3rd party hsf [voiding the warranty, which was why I purchased from him in the first palce] then buy a 2nd hsf [being fraudulent to amd down the road]


10/9/2005
I purchase a HSF, install it, and discover stability issues. I PM him letting him now that this is the case, and that I probably would want a refund. This is the first of several pm's and emails that ask for refund, or "a solution".

10/13/05
He replies

As for the stability issue, it is not my problem that u can't figure out ur own problem, as I have told u before the CPU is brandnew I've never put it in a motherboard once, and when I received it It was factory wraped I only took it out to inspect it once, if you don't like the CPU then sell it

This is where he tells me to sell a defective cpu.
This is also where he tells me that the reason it doesn't work is because I can't figure it out.


10/9/2005 - to maybe 10/13/05 - I continue to troubleshoot. I swap out parts as I have available [pci graphics card, different ram, no hdd's, not in case.. eventually even quasi-voiding the warranty on my hp laptop to pull it's venice cpu] and I eventually narrow it down to.. voila.. THE CPU.

P.S. now that i also have another motherboard to put the cpu on, I've tested it there.. and, wouldn't you know it.. it locks up there as well

10-14-2005 - I leave the negative heatware.


10/17/05 - I send a paypal refund request.
10/17/05 - He cancels refund request.

10/17/05 - I begin rma proceedings with amd.

 

[Malogato]

He sure wants to dig himself a hole. He was 100% in the wrong on multiple levels:

1. Selling as new without required materials for warranty
2. Telling you to buy a new part to fix something that was his fault
3. Broken item


I could probably think of more if I really wanted to.

He is now the first addition to my DNT list. Definitely not someone I would want to deal with.

The fact of the matter is.. I was honestly more concerned about "has warranty" than "is new"..

My priorities were.

1) Warranty intact
2) is a functional a64
3) is new.





DO me a favor.. Please remove your 4th entry. - I'm displeased with him (I may have slipped up in other posts), but I'm trying my best to keep direct relations with him ... oh.. lets call it.. congenial

My comment about knowing where he lives, for example, was not meant as a physical harm threat. However, my statement about the state I reside in was meant to inform him that I will use my right to self defense if he did attempt the solid-earth + cranium trick.


[I have no problems telling off other users who say it's my fault , however.. - {yes, V_A, this means you}..]

HIs reply said..

"He send me some foul e-mails,

Not true

And from my point of view he's probably a little kid

Not true

with no respect."

True. I do not have respect for trolls who rip me off and try to place blame on me for a defective part.


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Also I'd like you to know that, If I knew the god damn CPU was bad, do you think I would've sell it in the first place? I would never want a negative heatware.

It didn't stop you from telling *me* to sell it, so what would make anyone believe you'd have a problem selling a bad cpu?

 

[gtx4u]

I had a troll thread running for several days,
You were PM'ed, and emailed, multiple times. Your phone was called, but since your parents don't even know who you are, that was moot.
Mods sent you pm's telling you to reply to the troll thread.

ALl of this went unanswered. Finally, after waiting many days for your reply, and 2 days with the cpu being defective, then, finally being told by you that "I must not know what I'm doing" I left you negative heatware.

This was of course, after I had said to you (and in the "you are a troll" thread) that I wanted my money back.


Maybe you should check your pm's more often.

I like how you change the chronology of things for your benefit.

It still does not excuse the fact that you left bogus heatware (should I say.. fraudulent? - you completely fabricated the concept of me selling you something, whereas, even if I had overreacted, you did at least, you must admit, screw up)


Why is it that when you say it, it sounds like a physical threat (which, I believe is a crime?)

Oh, this might be why.

Well, to that, I say..

I live in florida. We are a state that has a "Stand your ground" (shoot first, don't even worry about asking questions) law.

Despite the fact that I can have you arrested for fraud..
Despite the fact that your statement is a threat of bodily harm [not that i'm exactly quivering in my boots, mind you]

You still refuse to do the simplest thing. Behave like the responsible seller you *claim* to be.

Not that I am the favorite son here, but, with the exception of a few people who shall remain nameless, I think the majority of the community feels that I have handled this as well as is to be expected.

The part that bugs me the most about all of this is that you feel I am to blame for your actions.


FYI

The reason why I posted the "you are a troll thread" was so you COULD tell your side of the story. Since you were not communicating much (and when you were, you were basically telling me that I'm a stupid person, who doesn't know how to use a cpu, and that it is my fault for not purchasing a heatsink). It was my hope that there would be some actual dialog going on here.

Honestly. At this very moment, what would make me happiest is to have this cpu replaced (as I have since purchased a 2nd mobo and cpu elsewhere) and wish to use said 2nd motherboard to upgrade my gf's computer.



As you cancelled my paypal refund request (it must be a *refund* not a payment, otherwise I'll get charged a paypal fee...) I can only assume that you no longer intend to give me back my $185. But, that's ok.. It is my intention to have this cpu replaced by amd. This is what I wish to be the outcome.

My 'bones of contention' here are that :

1) Since I'll have to pay a small amount of cash to send the cpu back to AMD, a partial refund would be considered an alternative, to you "losing all the $$ I paid you"

I humbly suggest $7 which will cover the shipping cost + $185 insurance to california.

My paypal account awaits.

2) You told me to go purchase another heatsink.
I took this to mean that you would not give me the heatsink I actually paid for.
With that in mind, I went and purchased a heatsink. I spent approximately $30 (I have the receipt somewhere) and in my thread that 'points you out as a troll' I even show the distance i had to drive to go get it. - I factor in my total expense at $45.

I do not want, nor need, this big ass copper heatsink. The stock heatsink is actually quite fine! So, here is what I suggest on this is that you purchase the heatsink from me. I will chalk the fuel expenses up to "experience" - as I also ended up "Making the most of it" and took that same opportunity to go to a restaurant I like down in that area.
I will send you this heatsink, for $35 shipped. It costs, new, at best buy, $29.99 + tax and shipping. It will come with some knock-off thermal interface material that they included with it, and it's clear 80mm fan.

I am doing everything in my power to be fair.


Let me reiterate one, tiny, point.

Well guess what heres my time-frame the last messege I got from you on HardOcp.com was 10-13-05 Just an update for you.

"I have purchased a $30 heatsink & fan (big, honking copper beast) and, now that I have it, I have finally had an opportunity to work on building the system.

Status is that I am having some stability issues. As there are multiple pieces from different sources on this, I have not proven to myself which component is the culprit. I'm down to "motherboard or cpu"

As the motherboard itself is an actual new in box evga (I know, I bought it straight from newegg, and the plastic was sealed) I am tending to lean towards your processor. I have already swapped out the ram and the video card.

The old ram passed memtest86, as does the new one. The video card has been swapped with an old PCI card, so that I can at least run prime95. Prime95 torture test fails after 1 pass., pretty much "automatically".

I've got over 20 years in the business, the only thing is that the company I work for (and I, myself, for that matter) have put off embracing 64 bit, so, this is our first a64, that is why I don't have 'spare parts at the ready' to swap around. We still build, P4 478s and A-XP's for our customers [nobody has asked for a dual core, or an a64 rig in this town]

I am working to get my hands on another S939 cpu.

As I *still* have not received the "warranty validating" heatsink from you........ (hint) if I determine the cpu I got from you to be the culprit, I will probably be looking at an alternative to filing a warranty claim with AMD.

I hope that we can come to.. a satisfactory solution, as honestly, I've been nothing but completely upset with you about this transaction since I received your package."

Clearly you did not state that you wanted refund of any. At that time I've already told you that I shipped you the heatsink. Then the next day you left a negative heatware without warning. Then ur problem will no longer be my problem anymore.

 

[gtx4u]

a simple thing I can tell u malogato is that, I don't need to know ur 20 years in the business, if you didn't want the CPU on 10-13-05, just tell me you wanted a refund, but instead you left a negative heatware. And guess what, all that junk u just typed? They'll all become MEMORIES in about 2 weeks of counter-strike source killing.

 

[Phelptwan]

So they you're going to ignore the problem and basically become a bad trader? Thats probably not the best idea if you want to keep on selling. Plus it would be a good idea to remove the retaliatory heat as well. I hope that people search for your name from now on before buying from you just to find out your a bad trader. You're on my DNT list for sure.

 

[Malogato]

Clearly you did not state that you wanted refund of any. At that time I've already told you that I shipped you the heatsink. Then the next day you left a negative heatware without warning. Then ur problem will no longer be my problem anymore.

That's because I asked for a refund 4 days previous. When you refused, I looked for other options.

10/9/2005
I purchase a HSF, install it, and discover stability issues. I PM him letting him now that this is the case, and that I probably would want a refund. This is the first of several pm's and emails that ask for refund, or "a solution".



You told me to sell the processor, instead of agreeing to my request for a refund.



Wether you feel my negative heatware is "Fair" or not is completely seperate from wether you are entitled to just "make shit up" to negatively effect my heatware. My heatware feedback on you, at the very least, pertains to an actual transaction. The argument as to wether or not I should have left you a positive, or neutral, is seperate from this.

The fact of the matter is.. You can still earn a positive evaluation. Anyone who reads your heatware, and sees me give you a negative, then a week later, give you a positive saying something along the lines of "Seller made good on the transaction" will be happier to deal with you, methinks.

It is ok for things to go wrong. (This part is not what makes you a troll)


(The following things make you a troll)
It is not ok to say "well, fuck you, too bad"
or
to threaten me with bodily harm.
or
To refuse to cooperate


Hell, I feel bad on my part about one of the transactions I made recently (Selling my p4 mobo & cpu to cannon) because of the fact that I had to delay shipping it. The difference here is that, all during the time I delayed it, I was in communication with cannon, and he was cool with the delay (he was waiting on other parts anyhow, so it really didn't put off his build). However, had he said "Dude.. I need them parts now!" I would have either 1) Refunded his money if I just 'couldn't live without them' or 2) Figured out a way to get the parts to him.

The difference here is that I maintained communication, and "kept the customer happy"


Your level of communication was either non existant, or, combative.
I thank you for sending me the hsf I paid you for. as I said earlier, Kudos to you for fulfilling your obligation on that part.

I do not thank you for sending me a dead cpu, taking a week to get me the hsf, calling me incompetent, forcing my hand to go get a hsf, etc..

I purchased the hsf before I was informed by you that you'd actually sent me one.
I had the hsf i purchased for 6 days before I received the one you sent.


I offered up the partial refund option to you because

1) I don't think that you want to "lose the sale"

2) knowing the processor is bad, I would hope you won't try to resell it to recover your lost $185.00

3) I have begun rma proceedings already which means, I had to REGISTER THE PROCESSOR IN MY NAME, so, since amd already knows this processor is considered defective, -- anyone you try to sell it to will also discover that.

[I did this because I felt you would not refund my money - which was evidenced by the fact that I sent a money request from paypal, and you cancelled it... - What more proof do I need?]

 

[ymer]

He's definately not going to cooperate, please report him to trollhunters and andandtech trolls database so he won't come out with another nickname and sell his faulty shit

 

[Malogato]

He's definately not going to cooperate, please report him to trollhunters and andandtech trolls database so he won't come out with another nickname and sell his faulty shit

In process.

I have no expectation of getting any monies from him. I chalk it up to experience now. - I'm sure I can figure out a use for the hsf I didn't want to have to buy, and I am sure amd will warranty replace my cpu, as it was dead out of box.

So what if I spent $230-$240 for a used athlon64 3500+