GTX460>HD6850 2010 Holiday season Winner

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GTX460 looks like it has won the battle as the best value in this segment.

HD6850 had a shot when it started out at $179.99 but now with all the hot deals on the GTX460 it looks like the GTX 460 is the winnar. :cool:

Good job GTX 460 at winning the 2010 holiday season! :cool:
 
Some 460 models went back up in price too, since Nvidia appears to be following the pricing of the 6850. However, Nvidia has been stuffing free games down peoples throats. The 6850 does require one-pin though.....I guess it comes down to the consumer.
 
The prices go up because they're constantly sold out.
I don't know who is the real winner here.
 
Going back and forth myself.... going to wait til Black Friday or Cyber Monday to see if they drop
 
Right now with the prices being so high on the 6800's, there's really no reason to buy them. The GTX460's are well below $200 now and the 5850 and GTX470 can be had for $225 so why bother with the 6800? I'm sure once the smoke clears and the novelty wears off of the 6800's that prices will settle back down but for now give me a GTX470 any day.
 
GTX 460's going for 120/150 (768/1gb) on sale after rebates now. Yeah, 6850 is in a whole other pricing tier now.
 
Gym Rat said:
Right now with the prices being so high on the 6800's, there's really no reason to buy them. The GTX460's are well below $200 now and the 5850 and GTX470 can be had for $225 so why bother with the 6800? I'm sure once the smoke clears and the novelty wears off of the 6800's that prices will settle back down but for now give me a GTX470 any day.
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GTX 470 for $225? Where?

Never mind, found it:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127501
 
LOL! Ive got $241 available credit on my sole credit card. You gotta know Im using every single bit of my will power to NOT pull the trigger on this thing. Wife would kill me!
 
Just wait it out, Gym Rat. Spend some time at the Gym...

That GTX 470 will remain at the $200-$220 price point regardless (used = $195 - $225). I've been eyeing that card as well - after overclocking, it'll hang with a GTX 480, and it'll be idle most of the time anyway, so power consumption isn't a HUGE issue for me. It's not like I have a lot of time to game.

You may find that you want a GTX "560" or "570" (or a 6950) in the very near future, if you find a deal. You seem like the type to wait for deals - we're in the same boat (I have an HD 4850 as well, but then mine overclocks like mad so I suppose it's more like a 4870).

The 470-card is actually a great balance because it has more than 1GB of RAM, so it doesn't exhibit the same limitations at above 1920x1200, when a 1GB card might.

Still... if I find a great deal on a 460-1GB, I may just bite. It'll be more than enough for my 1080p resolution, especially because I overclock.
 
I initially wanted a 470 at one time.....If I had known they'd drop this much in price......
 
heflys20 said:
I initially wanted a 470 at one time.....If I had known they'd drop this much in price......
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you do not want one with the reference cooler. I was more than happy to send that loud hot running pos back to newegg after a couple of days.
 
Actually I go back and forth. I want the GTX470 for the extra horsepower but honestly, at 1680x1050 how much extra horsepower are we really talking about? If the 768MB cards get down around $120 Im not sure Ill be able to pass that up. Overclock the crap out of it and be happy with 90% of GTX470 performance at 50% of the price. I just wanna play Crysis on High with some light AA but with 2 jobs and a 1 year old at home I gotta consider value. Sucks being an adult sometimes. :(

Just wait it out, Gym Rat. Spend some time at the Gym...
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Ha! Goes back to the whole 2 jobs and 1 year old thing. Dont have nearly the time for the gym that I used to. I was a 260 pound monster 16 months ago hitting the gym 4 times a week. Now Im 240 with love handles maybe going once or twice a week.

Thats why Ive gotten heavier into PC gaming, overclocking and such. A lot of fun and I dont have to go anywhere to do it......and I can eat pizza and chips! :D
 
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Gym Rat said:
Actually I go back and forth. I want the GTX470 for the extra horsepower but honestly, at 1680x1050 how much extra horsepower are we really talking about? If the 768MB cards get down around $120 Im not sure Ill be able to pass that up. Overclock the crap out of it and be happy with 90% of GTX470 performance at 50% of the price. I just wanna play Crysis on High with some light AA but with 2 jobs and a 1 year old at home I gotta consider value. Sucks being an adult sometimes. :(
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at that resolution the gtx 460 768mb or gtx 460 1GB or 6850 is more then enough.
 
I agree but Im a sucker for eye candy and it bugs me not being able to turn on AA on Crysis or Metro. As stupid as it sounds, thats what keeps me from pulling the trigger on something like the 460. I held off on the 5770 for something like the 460 and now that its hear Im still holding off. That little voice in the back of my head telling me to "wait a little more for the 470.....or I could wait even longer and get a 5870 and really crank up the AA!" Dont try to make sense of it, Im hopeless.
 
Yup. I ran the Metro benchmark at max settings just for the hell of it on my current rig.

5 frames per second! That game is just insane. I get like 19 on Crysis maxed and I thought that game was demanding.

Thats why I keep talking myself into waiting/saving for a big dawg card. I just have to see Metro maxed. It has to be life changing graphics to be that demanding.....right. :D
 
Agreed with the OP. The GTX 460 is at a different price point, one that supremely murders the HD 6800 series as a successful one. Why buy a 6850 at $200 when an OCed GTX 460 can almost match a 6870, for almost $100 less too.

GTX 460 = Win.
 
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I'd love to get an 6870,5850 or 470... but case/MB wont let me go past a 8.5" card... Corsair H50 (front mounted) and main reason is the SATA ports get in the way of anything longer.
 
The 460 1gb beats even the 6870 in my book. Way less stuttering and overall driver issues, and the 6870 is far louder. The 460 mops the floor with the 6850. I own and used both of the former on a daily basis for weeks at a time to test and play games with. The 6870 can barely be overclocked at all and the 460 overclocks like a beast. For overall performance the 6870 is slightly ahead even after you take OC into account but the driver problems and noise cancel this out, and the stuttering is still a huge issue in tons of games for ATI. Sad but true.
 
I should have clarified, "the 460 wipes the floor with the stock clocked 6850." If you can get your 6850 to 6870 speeds then my other statement is still in effect:

For overall performance the 6870 is slightly ahead even after you take OC into account but the driver problems and noise cancel this out, and the stuttering is still a huge issue in tons of games for ATI. Sad but true.
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Overall performance is not the deal breaker right now, if it was, I'd still by running the 6870 in my gaming rig and I'd be considering buying the 6970 the moment it comes out. I am not and I won't for a good reason: I had a 6870 in my gaming rig for a month and except for how awesome MLAA is the experience wasn't exactly pleasant.
 
requiem99 said:
I should have clarified, "the 460 wipes the floor with the stock clocked 6850." If you can get your 6850 to 6870 speeds then my other statement is still in effect:



Overall performance is not the deal breaker right now, if it was, I'd still by running the 6870 in my gaming rig and I'd be considering buying the 6970 the moment it comes out. I am not and I won't for a good reason: I had a 6870 in my gaming rig for a month and except for how awesome MLAA is the experience wasn't exactly pleasant.
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pretty lame statement http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/11/17/asus_eah6850_directcu_video_card_review
i don't see any wiping
 
Meh, with the 460 1 GB and the 6850, it comes down to price and brand preference.
At the moment the 68xx are having stock issues, I don't know if they're selling like hot cakes or if ATI isn't manufacturing enough of them, but the 6850 is $20 up right now, while the 460 will probably just keep going down...

It's just a common trend these days, new tech will always sell out within days, and the price will go up.
 
yeah actually it is quiet opposite newegg loves to up the prices of hot selling cards so currently 68xx series are selling very well
 
Good news about the 460 being priced so low and the 6850 having stock issues, the prices of the HD 5850 has been dropping like a rock and at least one model can be had for $155 after rebate on Newegg. Good time to be in the mid-range GPU market, lots of solid choices.
 
UtopiA said:
Meh, with the 460 1 GB and the 6850, it comes down to price and brand preference.
At the moment the 68xx are having stock issues, I don't know if they're selling like hot cakes or if ATI isn't manufacturing enough of them, but the 6850 is $20 up right now, while the 460 will probably just keep going down...

It's just a common trend these days, new tech will always sell out within days, and the price will go up.
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Seems to be stock issues, as a result of selling like hot cakes; heck, even with the price increase, they're still selling out. For example:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103123&cm_re=6870-_-14-103-123-_-Product

How in the hell did Diamond sell out!?
 
The 460 768MB seems to be a great deal for 1920x1080 gaming (those of us who use HDTVs) at the $130 level (I live in CA and the tax really kills any Newegg deals).

Frame rates are fine, except for AVP2, which is where the greater memory of the 1GB and 470 shine.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4002/amd-radeon-hd-6850-overclocking-roundup-asus-xfx-msi/8

As a still owner of a 8800GTS 320MB I worry about the memory, but at $130 I'm almost willing to risk it.

Keep on jumping between a $220 470, $190 6850, $165 460 1GB and a $130 406 768mb. Sigh, choices choices.
 
I don't understand where this misinformation is coming from. The 1gb GTX 460 and the 6850 are roughly equal in performance and price (now). Both are going for around $190 give or take.
 
sfsilicon said:
The 460 768MB seems to be a great deal for 1920x1080 gaming (those of us who use HDTVs) at the $130 level (I live in CA and the tax really kills any Newegg deals).

Frame rates are fine, except for AVP2, which is where the greater memory of the 1GB and 470 shine.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4002/amd-radeon-hd-6850-overclocking-roundup-asus-xfx-msi/8

As a still owner of a 8800GTS 320MB I worry about the memory, but at $130 I'm almost willing to risk it.

Keep on jumping between a $220 470, $190 6850, $165 460 1GB and a $130 406 768mb. Sigh, choices choices.
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Best choice is 470 on sale for 190 Newegg has had that for a while for the MSI one with coupon it might still be active and either way that type of price is going to show up regularly with the 470 in the coming weeks. It's a price/performance combination that cannot be beat. Period.
 
requiem99 said:
Best choice is 470 on sale for 190 Newegg has had that for a while for the MSI one with coupon it might still be active and either way that type of price is going to show up regularly with the 470 in the coming weeks. It's a price/performance combination that cannot be beat. Period.
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^^^ this, the 470 is a tremendous deal right now.
 
I myself just bought a GTX 480 (sig) because I've been finding out the hard way that I prefer video cards with higher memory bandwidth and texture fill rate to give me a more predictable framerate and stutter free experience. I want shaders too, but I don't want to sacrifice raw power to get them. A lot of people don't even realize that the 460 and 470 actually have less in those two areas when compared to the 280/285, and less in one area compared to even the 275 and 260! This is a step backwards that I don't like to see at all. ATI and NV are both guilty and I do not approve. I almost bought a 285 but I found a great price on a 480 and decided to go for it, despite the 384 bit to 512 bit disadvantage it's got much higher memory bandwidth, though the 285 still has a good 20% advantage over the 480 in texture fillrate. Madness, no?
 
sfsilicon said:
The 460 768MB seems to be a great deal for 1920x1080 gaming (those of us who use HDTVs) at the $130 level (I live in CA and the tax really kills any Newegg deals).

Frame rates are fine, except for AVP2, which is where the greater memory of the 1GB and 470 shine.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4002/amd-radeon-hd-6850-overclocking-roundup-asus-xfx-msi/8

As a still owner of a 8800GTS 320MB I worry about the memory, but at $130 I'm almost willing to risk it.

Keep on jumping between a $220 470, $190 6850, $165 460 1GB and a $130 406 768mb. Sigh, choices choices.
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do NOT get a gtx460 768mb for 1920. there are already a few games where you will run out of vram at settings the gtx460 could otherwise handle. some hitches that impact gameplay are not always apparent in a benchmark.
 
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