GTX 480: Initial Install Issues & 280, 5870 Comparisons

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First, the "issues":

I'd like to ask: has anyone had any trouble initially installing the GTX 480, with getting no signal to your monitor?

When I first received the 480, it almost seemed the box had been opened at some point, and even the plastic on the GPU (that you removed before use) was basically peeled off.

My monitor, several times, would not get a signal. It did once, I installed the drivers, but it failed yet again. I had to boot into safe mode, wipe all drivers clean again, could not install the drivers in safe mode, so took the chance of rebooting, which worked, installed the drivers and so far it's been fine.

However, it was quite an order and I thought I had gotten a bad card at first. Has anyone else had an issue like this?

I'd like to know, just to be informed.

Now, the comparisons:

First, the noise of the fan even on 75% is "loud" only in terms of air. Hardly annoying what-so-ever.

Second, the temps do get high, but depending on what game you're playing and how demanding, if you manually set your temps anywhere between 55%-75%, the card stays reasonably cool, no problem. Idle, with the fan at 45% (which is completely inaudible) my temp is 46C right now, after heavy gaming.

Load temps can hit upwards of 80-90C, depending on your fan speed, but what's interesting is that, at 70%, it's still almost inaudible in my case, and keeps things between 70-80C, which is hot, but acceptable temps. Anything above 70% fan speed, and "all of a sudden" you can hear it, which is odd, but again, it's not "bad" by any means in terms of volume.

Third, the direct comparisons... which, for those who don't know or haven't realized, the GTX 480 looks better than and crushes in performance, the 5870, period.

*Note: This is not an "ATi-bashing" thread, as you will notice if you've followed my threads in moving to ATi again for a few tries, then back to nVidia. I'm posting this as a follow-up for the few people who contacted me in my move between GPUs, wanting to know my experiences. For those whom this might seem "old news", well, than simply take it as further confirmation.

Every game tested in the exact same place, for the exact same time with the exact same action, and all in-game settings the same.

Yellow = 5870 scores over the GTX 280
Red = GTX 480 scores over the 5870

Crysis
(4xAA/16xAF; settings all on Very High)

Min/Max/Avg

GTX 480 - 17/49/36.2, 27/44/35.9, 21/45/33
5870 - 8/37/25.6, 13/41/29.3, 18/37/27
GTX 280 - 15/23/19.1, 14/21/18.6, 14/22/19.1

Fallout 3
(4xAA/16xAF; settings all on High)

Min/Max/Avg

GTX 480 - 55/63/59.9, 48/63/59.7, 56/63/59.8
5870 - 39/63/55.5, 32/62/52.9, 29/62/53
GTX 280 - 29/63/57.9, 26/63/57.9, 23/63/52.5


Mass Effect 2

(4xAA/16xAF; settings all on High)

Min/Max/Avg

GTX 480 - 57/61/59.8, 59/61/59.9, 59/61/59.7
5870 - 38/61/54.1, 40/61/53.8, 46/61/56.4, 35/63/50.8
GTX 280 - 29/62/59.5, 58/61/59.9, 59/61/59.9, 53/61/59.8

*Tests done with vsync on, because I always use it, as I cant stand tearing.

There are some seriously significant differences in performance, and both AA/AF actually look better with the GTX 480 as well to varying degrees. When not benching and just sitting back and playing, the performance difference and even some visual quality is hugely noticeable, feeling smoother than any GPU I've ever run.

The 480's fan volume and heat is more than reasonable, and as you can see, the performance improvement in the benchies are more than just one or two fps. There are many places it's anywhere from 5fps (which is not the norm from what I'm seeing; always far higher regularly), to regularly 6-20fps higher, and sometimes double/almost double the fps of the 5870.

It seems the more demanding the game, such as Crysis, the more the 480 shines and the further it out-performs the 5870, which I find interesting.

Minimum frame rates are through the roof, and far above the 5870, with absolutely beautifully visual quality.

Is that worth an extra $100-150 to you? I don't know about you, but it certainly is to me.

So, in short: for those still "on the fence" about whether or not it's worth going with nVidia right now, my answer would be a resounding YES, absolutely.

- End (Important): but if anyone has heard of/experienced any initial install problems as I've described in the beginning of this post, I'd like to hear about it.

I don't see any further issues developing, but that was a very odd and stressful situation at first, and one I still cannot explain. It was sending no signal to my monitor, and my system seemed to not auto-detect the GPU correctly (or some such) at first, which put me through some hoops.

Running the following:
Gigabyte X58-UD5 (F7 BIOS), i7 950, 6GB DDR Corsair Dominator, 850W PSU.
 
Think you're the first I've seen claim Crysis plays better on the 480 than the 5870.
 
I don't know if the 470 GTX is louder than a 480. Hearing a 470 at 70% fan speed reminds of a 1900XTX during boot up when the fan was spinning possibly at full speed.

The 1900XTX was unbearably loud during boot up and during the summer. To each his own I guess.
 
My 480 is annoying at 70% fan speed for sure. It climbs to 75-77% now after maybe an hour of gaming. Anyone claiming inaudible at 70% is a joker, really, or just a troll.
 
My 480 is annoying at 70% fan speed for sure. It climbs to 75-77% now after maybe an hour of gaming. Anyone claiming inaudible at 70% is a joker, really, or just a troll.

Whatever, noise is subjective. What's loud to you may not be loud to me and vice versa. :rolleyes:
 
Or maybe just maybe loudness is all a matter of opinion and just because you feel is horrible doesn't mean he feels the same way nor the next guy.
I personally dont call 70 inaudible but it is far from being a deal killer.
It is just opinions and that does not make one an automatic troll...
 
Back on topic for the OP - you said the plastic was peeled off on your card?

For the other 480 GTX owners, did yours come with the protective plastic sheet?

After a few minutes of gaming, I get drawn into a game and stop hearing the fan noise, that could be happening to a lot of peope. I really am only just concerned with idle fan noise.
 
Believe it or not, it's not just a matter of my "tolerance" for or "opinion" of the fan's volume... in my system, you literally cannot hear the fan until you hit 70%+, and at 70%, it's not that loud in my system at all, though 75% it gets much louder, though still not annoying (which then is a matter of personal tolerance).

As for running faster in Crysis, I'm not sure what to tell you... the numbers I posted tell the story. As you can see, it's running considerably faster than the 5870 for me.

Furmark scores are also higher by about 600pts with 8xAA compared to the 4xAA tested with the 5870, 1920 res, and temps were nowhere near unreasonable.

Not sure why the "protective" plastic on my GPU seemed to have been half pulled off. The static bag was sealed tight, so it obviously happened before it was packaged. Had me a bit worried they shipped some refurbished unit, but it seems to be running fine.

However...

- What about the installation issue I initially had?
Has anyone heard of/experienced anything as such?
Any ideas why that would have happened?
 
First, the "issues":

I'd like to ask: has anyone had any trouble initially installing the GTX 480, with getting no signal to your monitor?

What I would do is once you have your drivers set up the way you like, create a Restore point in windows and label it GTX 480 install. Just today for some odd reason, SLI wouldn't enable, and I had to restore my GTX 480 SLI restore point to get it back.

First, the noise of the fan even on 75% is "loud" only in terms of air. Hardly annoying what-so-ever.

It's really loud, particularly with two of them in there, the noise is cumulative. Fortunately it doesn't have an annoying characteristic or 'whine'. Rather it sounds like a blow dryer speeding up when the cards get under load.

Second, the temps do get high, but depending on what game you're playing and how demanding, if you manually set your temps anywhere between 55%-75%, the card stays reasonably cool, no problem. Idle, with the fan at 45% (which is completely inaudible) my temp is 46C right now, after heavy gaming.

You must not be running multimonitor. My 480 usually idles at 70c+ with both monitors plugged in. Don't have a 3rd yet since Nvidia Surround drivers aren't even ready.

Load temps can hit upwards of 80-90C, depending on your fan speed, but what's interesting is that, at 70%, it's still almost inaudible in my case, and keeps things between 70-80C, which is hot, but acceptable temps. Anything above 70% fan speed, and "all of a sudden" you can hear it, which is odd, but again, it's not "bad" by any means in terms of volume.

50% is inaudible for me but will eventually cause thermal shutdown. 64% is the idle speed and is tolerable but still noticeable. 75% and up is the norm once the gaming starts, and it is LOUD, but you can drown it out somewhat by turning the tv on or turning up the game volume. GTX 480 seemed to be made by headphone gamers. :p

Third, the direct comparisons... which, for those who don't know or haven't realized, the GTX 480 looks better than and crushes in performance, the 5870, period.

The numbers look pretty close actually. I'm not sure if 'crushing' it is true, but I came from a 5970, so my performance expectations are probably elevated because of that.

I DO enjoy the amazing AA levels that these cards can reach without even perceptibly slowing down. Just Cause 2 at 16xAA and 16xAF with ALL goodies turned on @ around 60FPS, anyone? :)
 
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