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GTX 460 question

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botw

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How much of an upgrade would a GTX 460 768mb be over a 512mb 4850?

Prices on these have come way down and I am thinking about picking one up. Any better options in the $125 price range?
 
40% maybe?

4850 is about 30% slower than GTX 260... GTX 460 768 is probably 10-15% faster GTX 260.
 
MrXROK said:
40% maybe?

4850 is about 30% slower than GTX 260... GTX 460 768 is probably 10-15% faster GTX 260.
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More, but overclocking is a factor. The 4850 and 4870 (which was my previous card) had very poor overclocking. The 4870 could go to 800 over its default 750 for a longtime stable OC, whereas the 460 can do 800 (with a healthy margin to spare) over its 675 default.
 
overclocking is not a factor because overclocking is BIG YMMV> You do realize 4850 also overclocks.

If we started to account for overclocking performance there's no end to what clocks can be generated to compare to what card.
 
MrXROK said:
overclocking is not a factor because overclocking is BIG YMMV> You do realize 4850 also overclocks.

If we started to account for overclocking performance there's no end to what clocks can be generated to compare to what card.
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For the upper limits yes, but there are averages that tell the story.

You can check a dozen review sites, that do test for overclocking, and get an idea of what to expect. Usually you want to take their results and discount a bit.

In fact, the pre-OCed models tell the story too. Find the 5 best pre-OCed models of any said card, and that will give you a pretty good idea of what you can expect.
 
SubtleOne said:
For the upper limits yes, but there are averages that tell the story.

You can check a dozen review sites, that do test for overclocking, and get an idea of what to expect. Usually you want to take their results and discount a bit.

In fact, the pre-OCed models tell the story too. Find the 5 best pre-OCed models of any said card, and that will give you a pretty good idea of what you can expect.
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It's all in the OC'n with the 460s
 
I will agree with the above too. I had two 4850's and neither overclocked well at all. My gtx 460's overclock to faster than 470 speeds. Personally I think it is a huge upgrade.
 
I don't have my 4850 OC'd because I am cooling it passively and they are already pretty hot cards.

BTW - resolution is 1600x1200. Main rig in signature.
 
botw said:
I don't have my 4850 OC'd because I am cooling it passively and they are already pretty hot cards.

BTW - resolution is 1600x1200. Main rig in signature.
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would you overclock the 460?? it wouldn't be passive
 
Maybe, but not much. I want to balance performance, noise and heat as much as possible.
 
SubtleOne said:
For the upper limits yes, but there are averages that tell the story.

You can check a dozen review sites, that do test for overclocking, and get an idea of what to expect. Usually you want to take their results and discount a bit.

In fact, the pre-OCed models tell the story too. Find the 5 best pre-OCed models of any said card, and that will give you a pretty good idea of what you can expect.
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Again overclocking is YMMV... as it's different from each card. 1 guy could be hitting 1000 and another guy barely break stock... It's silly to compare overclocked performance vs a stock card.

Now we should be comparing pre-overclocked cards vs factory cards? :eek:

I've seen 4850 topple near 4870 speeds so why don't you account for that? Oh right you only compare stock vs future overclocked cards. :rolleyes:
 
botw said:
Maybe, but not much. I want to balance performance, noise and heat as much as possible.
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I got exactly three degrees difference when overclocking from the default speed to 800/1900, which is what I game at. Four if I push it to its stable limit - 840/2000. It uses a reference cooling design BTW. Note that some sites explicitly say they have never encountered a GTX460 that couldn't OC to 800 comfortably.
 
MrXROK said:
Again overclocking is YMMV... as it's different from each card. 1 guy could be hitting 1000 and another guy barely break stock... It's silly to compare overclocked performance vs a stock card.

Now we should be comparing pre-overclocked cards vs factory cards? :eek:

I've seen 4850 topple near 4870 speeds so why don't you account for that? Oh right you only compare stock vs future overclocked cards. :rolleyes:
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Alright well if you don't want him to get a 460 and OC it....
there's that 4870x2 for $125! a DAMN good upgrade for him, and he never needs to touch a slider
 
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