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Grand Theft Auto VI

vegeta535 said:
you people
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talking about the game is the point of the thread.
 
zehoo said:
I don’t really have an issue with a girl boss if it has been written well like Ripley in the Alien franchise or Sarah Connor in T2 with faults and flaws and depth to the character.

Modern writers though just write an unlikeable man that can do no wrong and call it a woman.
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If a female character has flaws and depth, they are by definition not girl bosses. Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor are not girl bosses.
 
zehoo said:
I don’t really have an issue with a girl boss if it has been written well like Ripley in the Alien franchise or Sarah Connor in T2 with faults and flaws and depth to the character.
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Those characters had writers who were actually good at their craft. These writers want us to know what sequins are.
 
I wouldn't call those "girl bosses" either, just awesome protags who happen to be female. "Girl boss" is something more specific.
 
The ten commandments of writing a girlboss:

  1. The girlboss always succeeds at everything on her first try
  2. The girlboss outperforms seasoned masters of the craft on her first attempt
  3. The girlboss can do no wrong, it's always a man's fault if something goes wrong
  4. The only obstacle between a girlboss and her goals are men keeping her down
  5. The girlboss never needs to improve, train or learn, she is already the best from the start
  6. The girlboss can never be lead around by a man, she only leads
  7. The girlboss needs no men, her male followers are always bumbling buffoons
  8. The girlboss needs no help, she gets out of every situation on her own
  9. The girlboss has no love interests, she only uses men as fucktoys
  10. The girlboss has no discernible personality or interests
 
I’m going to cancel my cancel my Wolverine PS5 controller and buy this instead. I don’t need 3 controllers and this looks like it’ll be fun.
 
what's a good example of a girlboss, I honestly am not sure I come across those very often... main chick from this game doesn't seem like one (to me)
 
xnaughtyowlx said:
what's a good example of a girlboss, I honestly am not sure I come across those very often... main chick from this game doesn't seem like one (to me)
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Sarah Connor, Ellen Ripley, Alice Abernathy, Claire Redfield, Jill Valentine and Beatrix Kiddo are a few if we are talking movies.

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vegeta535 said:
They won't block mods. Anyway you people seem to always look for a reason to be outraged over ever big game.
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No reason to be outraged, right? We are all delusional, right?



Rockstar quietly updated their rules around modding in anticipation of GTA6:


Mod Guidelines​

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Do not expand or modify Rockstar Games' official storyline, plots, missions, characters, or other elements of our established continuity.
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If it's not clear enough this is basically a blanket ban on any meaningful changes. You can't even replace Jason with a plank of wood. Oh, wait he's already that, never mind.
 
M76 said:
No reason to be outraged, right? We are all delusional, right?



Rockstar quietly updated their rules around modding in anticipation of GTA6:


Mod Guidelines​

(Quoted the most relevant part only)



If it's not clear enough this is basically a blanket ban on any meaningful changes. You can't even replace Jason with a plank of wood. Oh, wait he's already that, never mind.
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You make it a dream sequence. No lore changed.
 
I dunno what you are upset about then, clearly you are allowed to create and use mods, just as long as it doesn't make any changes to the game whatsoever.

They seem like they are not wanting mods to ruin the experience of the game, but do they realize you don't actually HAVE to install and use mods? And just keep those on single player only then. I should be allowed to play as southpark characters if i want to. Plus more silly videos and mods get more people into the game which translates to $$.
 
zehoo said:
You make it a dream sequence. No lore changed.
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Nah, still counts as expanding.

Darunion said:
I dunno what you are upset about then, clearly you are allowed to create and use mods, just as long as it doesn't make any changes to the game whatsoever.

They seem like they are not wanting mods to ruin the experience of the game, but do they realize you don't actually HAVE to install and use mods? And just keep those on single player only then. I should be allowed to play as southpark characters if i want to. Plus more silly videos and mods get more people into the game which translates to $$.
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It's about control, they don't care about your experience, they couldn't care less whether gamers are having fun. You see modern game developers don't make games for the players, they make games for themselves. And they take great offense if someone tries to change their game.
 
M76 said:
It's about control, they don't care about your experience, they couldn't care less whether gamers are having fun. You see modern game developers don't make games for the players, they make games for themselves. And they take great offense if someone tries to change their game.
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Yea I don't like this new direction. It used to be "im glad you are enjoying the game we made" and now it is "i want you to enjoy the game exactly the way I want you to".
 
it's probably just something that's there to use as a catch all that they can use if they want to but will ignore most mods. Much like J-walking. It's mostly ignored, unless you're annoying them.
 
M76 said:
It's about control, they don't care about your experience, they couldn't care less whether gamers are having fun. You see modern game developers don't make games for the players, they make games for themselves. And they take great offense if someone tries to change their game.
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They have always been very possessive over how their games are played since GTA:SA. At one point Rockstar had to tell Take2 to chill the fuck out as they were going after any and all mods and Rockstar eventually released a press release stating you can mod the game just keep it single player and everything is copasetic.

This time around its different. Female character and ive seen some downright gooner ass posts online about it. I think Rockstar isnt dumb and they are doing two things here. Setting the expectation up front by drawing a line in the sand to stay away from the official storylines, official plots, official missions, official characters, and official stories. No cross game porting, No MP modding outside of their new platform, no hardware porting. If someone makes the right mod and it goes viral it can cause alot of problems for Rockstar and has in the past. I think they are trying to avoid that from happening unnecessarily. You can tell by looking at the whole list that these are liabilities. If you had to comb through all the GTAV mods to remove the ones that do not comply. Would probably be very minimal if any. Some of these guidelines were in place before GTAVs release.
 
M76 said:
No reason to be outraged, right? We are all delusional, right?



Rockstar quietly updated their rules around modding in anticipation of GTA6:


Mod Guidelines​

(Quoted the most relevant part only)



If it's not clear enough this is basically a blanket ban on any meaningful changes. You can't even replace Jason with a plank of wood. Oh, wait he's already that, never mind.
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That is dumb. Not that GTA needs mods to sell but I think it helped keep it even more relevant for PC game sales for a good while. Lots of GTA5 mods out there that kept the players playing more. I can't see how that is bad, unless they fear someone will circumvent their online currency thing. But I assume they have robust protections for their online aspects.

Are they upset about this? Practically made this scene a meme and in the spotlight many years post release.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRTohe4_-hA
 
German Muscle said:
They have always been very possessive over how their games are played since GTA:SA. At one point Rockstar had to tell Take2 to chill the fuck out as they were going after any and all mods and Rockstar eventually released a press release stating you can mod the game just keep it single player and everything is copasetic.
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What are you even talking about? The multiplayer for SA was itself a mod. So you're telling me that rockstar said keep mods out of the unofficial modded game mode? LOL
German Muscle said:
This time around its different. Female character and ive seen some downright gooner ass posts online about it.
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Excuse me, but I'm having a hard time taking anyone seriously who uses the term "gooner" unironically. Haven't you heard about rule 34? Justifying banning modding because of some spicy posts on the internet, really?
German Muscle said:
I think Rockstar isnt dumb and they are doing two things here.
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It's not about being dumb, it's about what they think they can get away with.
German Muscle said:
Setting the expectation up front by drawing a line in the sand to stay away from the official storylines, official plots, official missions, official characters, and official stories. No cross game porting, No MP modding outside of their new platform, no hardware porting. If someone makes the right mod and it goes viral it can cause alot of problems for Rockstar and has in the past. I think they are trying to avoid that from happening unnecessarily. You can tell by looking at the whole list that these are liabilities.
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Yeah, right it is going to cause problems just when GTA6 is about to be released, not before, right? Do you honestly believe they are doing any of this with good intentions? What is even left to mod, if you are not allowed to mod characters, story, missions, not allowed to mod in real world locations, (which is not even a copyright issue), people, etc.?
German Muscle said:
If you had to comb through all the GTAV mods to remove the ones that do not comply. Would probably be very minimal if any.
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Well duh. that's the issue. Clearly this is not about old mods, but preventing future mods for GTA VI. It is unlikely to be enforced retroactively.
German Muscle said:
Some of these guidelines were in place before GTAVs release.
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Do you have an archived version of it? Because the internet seems to be scrubbed (I wonder why?) from any previous version of the guidelines besides the current one.
 
M76 said:
What are you even talking about? The multiplayer for SA was itself a mod. So you're telling me that rockstar said keep mods out of the unofficial modded game mode? LOL
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MP in SA wasnt official. Noit sure why your picking this out to drill down on. GTA:SA was the infamous hot coffee mod. That was the turning point. Putting MP on a game that doesnt have it has nothing to do with any of this.
M76 said:
Excuse me, but I'm having a hard time taking anyone seriously who uses the term "gooner" unironically. Haven't you heard about rule 34? Justifying banning modding because of some spicy posts on the internet, really?
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Then why are you replying to me?
M76 said:
It's not about being dumb, it's about what they think they can get away with.
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No thats just the narrative your pushing. lol
M76 said:
Yeah, right it is going to cause problems just when GTA6 is about to be released, not before, right? Do you honestly believe they are doing any of this with good intentions? What is even left to mod, if you are not allowed to mod characters, story, missions, not allowed to mod in real world locations, (which is not even a copyright issue), people, etc.?
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I think they are trying to protect their assets and IP. I dont feel like its malicious and i think they should. What is even left to mod? Alot like i said this affects hardly any mods that exist today. Im not sure what parts you wanted to mod that this restricts. Im betting there are none. Its just your reason to complain.
M76 said:
Well duh. that's the issue. Clearly this is not about old mods, but preventing future mods for GTA VI. It is unlikely to be enforced retroactively.
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It is and has been enforced retroactively.
 
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