GPU prices — is the worst behind us ?

[sfsuphysics]

I think every time I see this thread my mind reads GAS prices... is the worst behind us? As I spent over $6/gallon the other day. And yes I know other countries its more..

 

[are closed]

“The retail price of the anniversary version of the GeForce RTX 5090 has reached $12,000.”​

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1x56bpf/12k_now_at_microcenter/

Eh, just for comparison.

 

[El_Capitan]

Eh, just for comparison.
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[causticspill]

Well, I picked up a 5070Ti a few weeks ago. I would have waited for the next gen of cards but at this point I'm not convinced that there will ever be a next gen of consumer gaming GPUs (AI/rampocalypse, latest 5090 news, what's even the business case at this point?).

Good news for everyone else though: knowing my luck prices will now start to come down since I just bought something. You're all welcome! If only.

 

[Agent_N]

NIVIDA has a even bigger total marketshare on the AI market:
https://carboncredits.com/nvidia-co...n-2025-and-reveals-next-gen-ai-supercomputer/

AMD is a 4%:
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Wishful thinking doesn't change reality.

We have only NVDIA GPU's in our datacenters and 0 AMD GPU's and that is not chagning as long I am have the power to decide.
Partly because the software is supporting CUDA, not AMD and partly because AMD is a bad performance/$ and partly because AMD lack features in the same way they do on the desktop.

Again the data doesn't agree with the far to vocal minority on forums.

Buddy, this report is from 2024, not exactly reflecting current numbers as more have opted for AMD Helios racks versus 2024 when they didn't have the best options available yet. Get some newer data and not from a company trying to sell data analytic services...

 

[littlegreenmenfromhome]

in another year's time we should have the 9070xt successor that should also be able to beat the 5080

But still not the RTX 4090?

 

[littlegreenmenfromhome]

Buddy, this report is from 2024, not exactly reflecting current numbers as more have opted for AMD Helios racks versus 2024 when they didn't have the best options available yet. Get some newer data and not from a company trying to sell data analytic services...

Done:
https://commandlinux.com/statistics/ai-gpu-market-share-nvidia-vs-amd-vs-intel/

 

[Marees]

But still not the RTX 4090?

very unlikely that AMD will make a gaming card that costs above $1000

 

[noko]

If you count APU and IGP, I am talking GPU's, stop being stupid, because in the next moment you talk GPU's and not shitty integrated graphics.
GPU's are like this:
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Nobody cares for Intel Xe3 (4-core Xe³ graphics package with 512 shaders) or AMD Radeon 860M (8 CU's)
But nice of you once again to display your dishonesty.

And if you ignore FPS and image quality you might have had a point, but in reality, no:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRpJ553RzE

There is a reason their GPU sales have plummet to 8% flat for many quarters now:
NVIDIA performance > AMD performance
DLSS > FSR
Ray Reconstruction > Ray Regeneration
NVIDIA FG > AMD FG
DLSS 5 > [AMD has Nothing]
RTX Remix > [AMD has Nothing]
CUDA > ROCm
NVIDIA Broadcast AI> [AMD has Nothing]
OptiX > OpenCL/HIP
NVENC > AMD Encoder
NVIDIA Reflex > AMD anti-lag
NVIDIA Studio Ecosystem > [AMD has Nothing]

You keep telling yourself that reality is not like it is, it only makes you part of a cult.

For no one caring, Intel GPU wise has dominance, just not what you care about. The world obviously differs. Now no one cares about your 4090 if they are shopping for a card less than $800. Even Jensen says a 5070 is faster than a 4090. So why compare a 4090 against AMD current generation? Anything game wise graphics card, SUB $850, AMD has clear leadership and for most the better gaming card to get, in performance, in price, availability and I say in general, a more decent community is AMD.

 

[littlegreenmenfromhome]

very unlikely that AMD will make a gaming card that costs above $1000

So the RTX 4090 will reach GTX 1080 Ti status, unbeaten for 3 generations....nice.

 

[littlegreenmenfromhome]

For no one caring, Intel GPU wise has dominance, just not what you care about. The world obviously differs. Now no one cares about your 4090 if they are shopping for a card less than $800. Even Jensen says a 5070 is faster than a 4090. So why compare a 4090 against AMD current generation? Anything game wise graphics card, SUB $850, AMD has clear leadership and for most the better gaming card to get, in performance, in price, availability and I say in general, a more decent community is AMD.

Again, yo can mix and match IGP/APU's and GPU's in your "argumentation" like you do.
Facts:
- AMD has dropped to 8% of dGPU slaes for close to 2 years now. Consumers have rejected their dGPU's, despite your crying they do NOT sell as 90% buy NVIDIA, no matter the price point.
- My Intel arc 140T is part of your numbers, but unsued, as i disabled it and use the RTX Pro 1000 exclusively. You are grying to count all the CPU with IGP/APU's not being used for gaming since people adda dGPU tou their system.

So keep crying mr. 8%, reality does not care for your hurt feelings or false claims 8% = 8%.

 

[Agent_N]

Done:
https://commandlinux.com/statistics/ai-gpu-market-share-nvidia-vs-amd-vs-intel/
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AMD was a little late to the game compared to Nvidia, but I also looked up the second pie chart that you posted and they claimed 5-7% for AMD. A 6GW commitment from Meta is a sizable amount of AI hardware that will change that percentage. I know, you will poo poo AMD any chance that you get, I got your one trick pony show figured out already...

https://axis-intelligence.com/amd-statistics/

 

[Marees]

Eh, just for comparison.
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check this one

Chinese bride gifts her partner a flagship GPU at wedding — he breaks down in tears.

She handed him an ASUS ROG Astral RTX 5090 that costs around $12,000

https://x.com/i/trending/2111105088299417679?s=20

 

[LukeTbk]

AMD was a little late to the game compared to Nvidia, but I also looked up the second pie chart that you posted and they claimed 5-7% for AMD. A 6GW commitment from Meta is a sizable amount of AI hardware that will change that percentage. I know, you will poo poo AMD any chance that you get, I got your one trick pony show figured out already...

This is a bit of a strange conversation, Meta has something like 12 GW of nvidia installed or commited compute has well.

Meta deal is a superbe one, but it represent 2-3% of the 200-250 GW of committement around the world in that space and its split over 5 years ramp up, it does not mean that it will change that 5-7% figure in a significant way because Meta has been all along AMD biggest customer pretty much and the reasont they had a nice 5-7% market share, that just a normal extension of their commitement.

Meta has been of the biggest AMD customer/future owner (they could become an almost 10% owner, depending on how much dilution happen and own much of AMD become OpenAI).

Amd is ramping extremelly fast but so does Nvidia, last 2 years AMD had spectacular growth, but to gain market share in a significant way in that space, you need to be growing faster than Nvidia, their latest quarter they had a +116% pace over the one of the year before in their datacenter division, you could be growing at never seen before for that scale 70-90% like AMD (or even record breaking 107%...) is and still loose ground versus them....

 

[Agent_N]

This is a bit of a strange conversation, Meta has something like 12 GW of nvidia installed or commited compute has well.

Meta deal is a superbe one, but it represent 2-3% of the 200-250 GW of committement around the world in that space and its split over 5 years ramp up, it does not mean that it will change that 5-7% figure in a significant way because Meta has been all along AMD biggest customer pretty much and the reasont they had a nice 5-7% market share, that just a normal extension of their commitement.

Meta has been of the biggest AMD customer/future owner (they could become an almost 10% owner, depending on how much dilution happen and own much of AMD become OpenAI).

Amd is ramping extremelly fast but so does Nvidia, last 2 years AMD had spectacular growth, but to gain market share in a significant way in that space, you need to be growing faster than Nvidia, their latest quarter they had a +116% pace over the one of the year before in their datacenter division, you could be growing at never seen before for that scale 70-90% like AMD (or even record breaking 107%...) is and still loose ground versus them....

AMD didn't have rack system comparable to Nvidia previously, but they have their Helios system after having acquired a few companies and some partnerships to put that packaged system together. They are in a much better place to compete now than ever before, but they have a lot of work ahead of them to keep clawing marketshare. Thanks for the engaging post, much preferred over a certain other member that could take some pointers for future engagement.