GPU Overheating

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cuemasterfl

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I've been getting a lot of crashes with games just lately, so I installed Everest and found the temperatures inside to be very hot:

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Asus F8000 (ISA A00h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)

Temperatures
Motherboard 49 °C (120 °F)
CPU 60 °C (140 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 52 °C (126 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 52 °C (126 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 52 °C (126 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 52 °C (126 °F)
MCP 93 °C (199 °F)
GPU [ TRIAL VERSION ]
GPU Memory 84 °C (183 °F)
GPU Ambient 63 °C (145 °F)
Seagate ST3750528AS [ TRIAL VERSION ]

Cooling Fans
CPU 1762 RPM
Chassis 1028 RPM
GPU 4718 RPM (100%)

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.66 V
+3.3 V 3.34 V
GPU Vcc [ TRIAL VERSION ]

I was running WoW a little while ago and the GPU temperature was 202F. All of the fans are working inside and there's very little dust. Why so hot? Could I need a bigger power supply?

Here's specs for the rest of the system:

Field Value
Computer
Computer Type ACPI x64-based PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
OS Service Pack [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Internet Explorer 8.0.7600.16385
DirectX DirectX 11.0
Logon Domain [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Date / Time 2010-04-26 / 22:18

Motherboard
CPU Type QuadCore AMD Phenom X4 9750, 2375 MHz (12 x 198)
Motherboard Name Asus M2N78-LA (Violet) (3 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Video, LAN, IEEE-1394)
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA GeForce 9100, AMD K10
System Memory [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DIMM1: Samsung M3 78T5663EH3-CF7 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (6-6-6-18 @ 400 MHz) (5-5-5-15 @ 333 MHz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz)
DIMM2: Samsung M3 78T5663EH3-CF7 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DIMM3: Samsung M3 78T5663EH3-CF7 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DIMM4: Samsung M3 78T5663EH3-CF7 [ TRIAL VERSION ]
BIOS Type AMI (04/03/09)

Display
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (512 MB)
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (512 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Monitor LG W2061 [20" LCD] (1904204016)

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Realtek ALC888/1200 @ nVIDIA MCP78 - High Definition Audio Controller

Storage
Storage Controller AOLCKIM4 IDE Controller
Storage Controller NVIDIA nForce RAID Controller
Storage Controller NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller
Disk Drive Generic- Compact Flash USB Device
Disk Drive Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device
Disk Drive Generic- SD/MMC USB Device
Disk Drive Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Device
Disk Drive ST375052 8AS SCSI Disk Device (750 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II)
Optical Drive HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH40L SCSI CdRom Device
Optical Drive NGTUX VCLQN0LQ SCSI CdRom Device
Optical Drive NGTUX VCLQN0LQ SCSI CdRom Device
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions
C: (NTFS) [ TRIAL VERSION ]
D: (NTFS) 14198 MB (2001 MB free)
Z: (NTFS) 49998 MB (25105 MB free)
Total Size [ TRIAL VERSION ]

Input
Keyboard HID Keyboard Device
Mouse HID-compliant mouse

Network
Primary IP Address [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Primary MAC Address 00-21-00-E1-ED-FC
Network Adapter Atheros 802.11 a/b/g/n Dualband Wireless Network Module (192. [ TRIAL VERSION ])
Network Adapter NVIDIA nForce 10/100 Mbps Ethernet
Network Adapter VirtualBox Host-Only Ethernet Adapter (192. [ TRIAL VERSION ])

Peripherals
Printer Fax
Printer HP Deskjet F300 Series
Printer Microsoft XPS Document Writer
Printer Send To OneNote 2010
FireWire Controller AT&T/Lucent IEEE1394 FireWire Controller (PHY: Agere LFW3226/3227)
USB1 Controller nVIDIA MCP78 - OHCI USB 1.1 Controller
USB1 Controller nVIDIA MCP78 - OHCI USB 1.1 Controller
USB2 Controller nVIDIA MCP78 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
USB2 Controller nVIDIA MCP78 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
USB Device HP Deskjet F300 Series (DOT4USB)
USB Device HP Deskjet F300
USB Device USB Composite Device
USB Device USB Composite Device
USB Device USB Input Device
USB Device USB Input Device
USB Device USB Input Device
USB Device USB Mass Storage Device
USB Device USB Printing Support

DMI
DMI BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
DMI BIOS Version 5.10
DMI System Manufacturer HP-Pavilion
DMI System Product NY464AA-ABA p6130y
DMI System Version
DMI System Serial Number [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DMI System UUID [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DMI Motherboard Manufacturer PEGATRON CORPORATION
DMI Motherboard Product VIOLET
DMI Motherboard Version 3.02
DMI Motherboard Serial Number [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DMI Chassis Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
DMI Chassis Version Chassis Version
DMI Chassis Serial Number [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DMI Chassis Asset Tag [ TRIAL VERSION ]
DMI Chassis Type Desktop Case


Thanks.
 
I suggest cleaning the dust out of your GPU fan assembly, especially if it has a shroud and see if that helps. 202F... ~94.5C, I don't think that's overly hot for a GPU but it is pretty uncomfortable, and wow 100% fan speed? Is it overclocked at all (factory even)? Try setting it to stock clocks if it is.
 
It's not overclocked. I don't even know how to overclock anything (and I don't want to). What about the CPU temps? I'll get one of those air can things tomorrow and blow the dust out of it tomorrow night. Just curious - does a "full screen" game require more horsepower than a game in windowed mode?
 
cuemasterfl said:
It's not overclocked. I don't even know how to overclock anything (and I don't want to). What about the CPU temps? I'll get one of those air can things tomorrow and blow the dust out of it tomorrow night. Just curious - does a "full screen" game require more horsepower than a game in windowed mode?
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No.

Make sure to keep the can level as you spray it.. sometimes the propellant can come out in liquid form and that's not good.
 
Bizzare, WoW shouldn't come anywhere near making the GPUs that warm. Run Furmark and see what happens there.
 
I'll run Furmark in a bit and report. Right now I am running wow and the GPU is crazy:

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Asus F8000 (ISA A00h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)

Temperatures
Motherboard 60 °C (140 °F)
CPU 61 °C (142 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 61 °C (142 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 61 °C (142 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 61 °C (142 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 61 °C (142 °F)
MCP 93 °C (199 °F)
GPU [ TRIAL VERSION ]
GPU Memory 104 °C (219 °F)
GPU Ambient 69 °C (156 °F)
Seagate ST3750528AS [ TRIAL VERSION ]

Cooling Fans
CPU 2228 RPM
Chassis 1228 RPM
GPU 4689 RPM (100%)

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.66 V
+3.3 V 3.34 V
GPU Vcc [ TRIAL VERSION ]
 
69C on the GPU core is not bad at all if that is the load temps. If you are still artifacting at 69C the card may be fubar. Also, those CPU temps are fine as well, 61C is great.
 
Well, I did the stress test with Furmark, and the GPU temp got to 143 C before my machine crashed.
 
143 C is 289 F, which is VERY hot. WoW was only getting it up to 223F, but admittedly I was only standing in the Stormwind AH. Maybe it's a driver issue then?
 
Yeah, serious issues, sounds like the TIM may be messed up, supprised it even allow you to run that hot, its more than a simple dust problem I believe.
 
cuemasterfl said:
Well, I did the stress test with Furmark, and the GPU temp got to 143 C before my machine crashed.
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Uh. How did it actually reach 143 C before crashing. That's unbelievable temps...

There's obviously something wrong with your 8800 GT's cooling. Is the fan even working?
 
Single Slot 8800GT's have crap cooling, that's for sure.
not entirely inadequate cooling, but crap enough by most standards.


did you recently update drivers?
 
I updated the drivers a few days ago. I just took the video card out of the computer, cleaned it up a bit, put it back in and made sure it was secure. I'll report again once the temps have had time to rise.
 
heatlesssun said:
Yeah I thought these things shut down at 120C.
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If you recall, several driver sets that were killing cards due to a fan bug were also overriding the thermal shutdown, so cards were overheating beyond the limit and didn't throttle down. Perhaps its still like this and Nvidia only fixed the fan bug in the recent drivers?
It could explain how he can manage to get such high temps before the machine shuts down.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...275-warning-nvidia-191-xx-195-xx-drivers.html
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7551
 
cuemasterfl said:
Right now I am back to 219 F and 100% GPU fan speed, so no change there.
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Try the canned air solution. On old cards, the heatsink gets dust stuck making it harder for air to flow through. While you are doing it, you can also reapply thermal paste if you know how. :)
 
I'll do the air can thing tomorrow night. I don't know anything about thermal paste.... ;)
 
Please post in celcius, that's what people usually report their temps in so that we don't need to do the conversion.

Your 8800GT is hitting over 100° which is way too hot for this card and it's likely damaged. My 8800GT also died a similar death along with an 8800GTX. I find that the threshold is about 2 years before several 8800GT cards start dying.

It might just be that your heatsink is completely clogged with dust or the fan is damaged from dust though.
 
I actually have the same issue with my Sapphire HD 5770. Ran furmark and was getting temps above 100°. I don't really know if I should be installing a better headsink on it or something.
 
This can probably be solved by applying some new thermal paste to the card. Here's a walkthrough for you, op:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tya7lU0T3FE

There are quite a few others, too. Basically you unscrew the HSF, clean off the old stuff with 91% isopropyl alcohol and lintless cloth, then just apply the new paste and screw the HSF back on. Easy.
 
I cleaned the GPU and fan really good with an air can, and right now, after running wow for about 15 minutes, I have these temps:

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Asus F8000 (ISA A00h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)

Temperatures
Motherboard 46 °C (115 °F)
CPU 55 °C (131 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 50 °C (122 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 50 °C (122 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 50 °C (122 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 50 °C (122 °F)
MCP 76 °C (169 °F)
GPU [ TRIAL VERSION ]
GPU Memory 98 °C (208 °F)
GPU Ambient 69 °C (156 °F)
Seagate ST3750528AS [ TRIAL VERSION ]

Cooling Fans
CPU 1831 RPM
Chassis 1045 RPM
GPU 4599 RPM (100%)

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.66 V
+3.3 V 3.34 V
GPU Vcc [ TRIAL VERSION ]

This is a little bit cooler than last night. We'll see in the days to come how it runs. Thanks for the link psilence ;)
 
can you post some pics of your case with the side panel off? I would like to see teh case type and how much airflow the case has.
 
I know the surface area is dusty, but inside the machine it's pretty clean now I used the spray can. It stays inside this little hole all day. Could that be part of the issue?

pc1.jpg

pc2.jpg
 
Since I took the side case off, the temp has stayed around 85-88 C. It went over 93 C one time for a few moments, but it seems pretty stable at the moment. I'll try a more graphically intense game probably tomorrow, like Mass Effect 2 or Dragon Age: Origins, and will let you know how that goes.
 
The airflow in that case is abysmal. Just by looking at it I don't think that HP case was designed for hardware like that in mind. Is that bottom exhaust the only exhaust fan?
 
Don't just blow out the fan, make sure air goes through all the metal fins at the back of the card. Take the card out completely and blow everything out of it.

Don't leave the case door on. Don't have your computer inside a cupboard!

Is that rust on the rails in that cupboard? Is there a lot of moisture in the air?
 
It's dust. No moisture, just dust in there. I'll see if I can bring it outside of where it is now, but given the desk I have, I'm not sure where I can put it at this point. BTW, GPU temp is still 82 C and holding steady.... :)
 
yes definitely leave the side off and take the comp out of that cabinet. See how it does.
 
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