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Good ripping software

obviouslytom

obviouslytom

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I need recommendations of good dvd ripping software. I have tried handbrake and have yet to get any satisfactory results with it.

Currently I am trying xilisoft dvd ripper and that is causes the video to stutter when its done
 
dvdfab is awesome imo, especially when integrated with wmc. one click ripping of blurays or dvd's, auto lookup of metadata and auto addition to movie library. seems to work every time too...
 
If you're lazy like me, you won't find anything easier than MakeMKV. Simple, fast and hassle free. There's no charge now while it is in beta and you don't need an AnyDVD license.
 
DDR4040 said:
If you're lazy like me, you won't find anything easier than MakeMKV. Simple, fast and hassle free. There's no charge now while it is in beta and you don't need an AnyDVD license.
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Will it rip to any format? Even though it took almost 3 hours plus some time figuring out exactly what settings I needed, xilisoft dvd ripper finally came gave me a good result with a 720p rip of Moon.

I want to create a digital library of all my dvd's (700) that I will use on my HTPC
 
obviouslytom said:
Will it rip to any format? Even though it took almost 3 hours plus some time figuring out exactly what settings I needed, xilisoft dvd ripper finally came gave me a good result with a 720p rip of Moon.

I want to create a digital library of all my dvd's (700) that I will use on my HTPC
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MakeMKV is for Ripping BD and DVD to MKV. It doesn't do any video or audio transcoding. It's useful for that, but I feel that anydvd + Another eac3to GUI + eac3to is much better. MakeMKV is a paid product as well; beta expires in 30 day.
 
How well does DVDFab work for ripping BR's to MKV? Can I pick and choose audio streams, etc?
 
dvdfab makes mkv from dvd's and/or blurays. its awesome actually, i once ripped a ~700mb avi movie to mkv, which made it about 2.5gb in size. then, when i went to re-burn that file to dvd (just trying stuff out) the result came out better quality then the original file. it makes me think that ripping real dvd9 movies (i dont have any!) would result in an extremely good result, and likely be hard to tell apart from a bluray rip.
 
krupted said:
dvdfab makes mkv from dvd's and/or blurays. its awesome actually, i once ripped a ~700mb avi movie to mkv, which made it about 2.5gb in size. then, when i went to re-burn that file to dvd (just trying stuff out) the result came out better quality then the original file. it makes me think that ripping real dvd9 movies (i dont have any!) would result in an extremely good result, and likely be hard to tell apart from a bluray rip.
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better quality than the original? how does that work?
 
Erasmus354 said:
It doesn't, this isn't an episode of CSI:Miami....
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lol...I too am confused as to how an encoded movie could be re-encoded, then burned and end up better than the source. regardless, it is safe to say there wasn't significant quality loss, so that's enough for most people.
 
is there any way I can rip my BlueRay Disc into MP4 with 5.1 audio I want to rip my collection into MP4 but I want to keep the audio original to sound just like the real BD.
 
n3g471v3 d3c1b3l said:
better quality than the original? how does that work?
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Erasmus354 said:
It doesn't, this isn't an episode of CSI:Miami....
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IDversusEGO said:
lol...I too am confused as to how an encoded movie could be re-encoded, then burned and end up better than the source. regardless, it is safe to say there wasn't significant quality loss, so that's enough for most people.
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LMAO :D

Anyways, very handy and useful app here: http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/t/81697.aspx
 
um, when you encode to a much higher quality format you really dont lose anything... then when you re-encode back down the video is being re-processed for a 2nd time. hence, slightly better then the original. how is that so crazy? its not lossless were talking about here, the original file was already compressed and not perfect. plenty of room to improve it.
 
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You don't get "something" from nothing, no way does it make sense what you just said since all you can do is preserve quality. You can't add more to it since there isn't more to add. If we were talking about the original film print (which is mastered at a much higher resolution then what's on the DVD) then yes it would be possible to re-master a higher quality DVD version.

But that's clearly not the case here. You can't add more image quality out of thin air which is exactly what you are proposing. That's not how it works.

All you're doing is wasting space. You can easily drop the video quality down to around 75-80% with near zero noticeable video quality degradation (90% quality I can't tell the difference BTW) but the result is a much, much smaller file size.
 
krupted said:
how do upscaling dvd players work?
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They "guess" at what the image was and from that they try to enhance it as best as they can. They're not adding anything to it though, it's all a mathematical guess on the part of the software (and hardware) that is analyzing the video.
 
thats my point. all i said was the result came out better, and i meant better looking. you all took it all technically but i suppose it was my wording that caused that. basically whats happening is an extra video encoding pass i guess, in a much more manual way. i only mentioned it because even i was surprised to see a noticeable difference, but i have. maybe the video i started with was just 1-pass encoded with a fairly weak process... who knows im not curious enough to look into it.
 
krupted said:
thats my point. all i said was the result came out better, and i meant better looking.
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You're really not getting it. The only increase in image quality is going to be purely in your head.

What I was talking about (and what you were asking about with the DVD upsampling question) is like running FFDShow with some post processors turned on. What you are postulating is that, somehow, you've managed to increase the image quality even ever so slightly when you've re-encoded your DVDs. That just doesn't happen. As I said, you can't add in more info that isn't there.

Even then that's not how video encoding apps like Handbrake even work. All you're doing is nothing but wasting space. A massive size too based on what you've said.
 
Take a 24-bit BMP, save it as a 50% encoded JPEG. Now, resave it as a 24-bit BMP and compare to the original.

Remember, this isn't compression it is encoding (or sometimes transcoding). They are removing data to make it smaller. While they can do that without making the image look horrible (just remove less), you can never put that data back and get the image back to what it was before.
 
Anyone got a good tutorial of burning Dual Layer movie inserting that break thingy in there? Only one I saw seemed more complicated than it was worth.

I know using IMGBurn is the way to go burning Dual Layer DVDs but that break in the movies is causing me to make nice shiny coasters.
 
god damn you guys are the ones not getting it. you all act like its impossible to make a video look better. i am not taking a high quality video, compressing, and then putting it back and saying its better. you guys are telling me thats what im doing, and i am not. read what im saying instead of going with what you want to.
 
I dont think anybody said that...I know I am not. As I understand it, you are taking a compressed video, re-encoding it and expanding it to about 3.5 times its original size, then rencoding the re-rencoded file to standard DVD format and burning to writable media...is that a fair summary? and you are hypothesize that DVDfab has what...a line doubler or some video scaling built in that replaced the missing resolution that had be removed by the initial encoding process? or is it more of a noise reduction algorithm you suspect has improved the quality? I am not being confrontational, I am trying to understand better. I dont think any of us are saying its impossible to make video look better. I think we are saying that dvdfab doesn't do that...at least to my knowledge. I have also contended that up-scaling isn't the miracle that people present it to be. but hey...I could be wrong. proof is in the pudding, maybe I'll try it.
 
BTW...what did you initially play the 700mb file on (pc?) and what did you play the DVD on? just curious...I think it would be funny if you played your burned dvd on an upscaling player and the player was the actual thing that improved it.
 
youre spot on EGO. i never meant to mean it was a big difference, i thought i was being modest enough but what i see is no joke, the final burned dvd looked better. like i said though, since what i started with was a poor quality file its not like any of this applies to this thread anyway and its all blown totally out of proportion. as usual for hardforums.
 
IDversusEGO said:
BTW...what did you initially play the 700mb file on (pc?) and what did you play the DVD on? just curious...I think it would be funny if you played your burned dvd on an upscaling player and the player was the actual thing that improved it.
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im not stupid! :D it was the same pc the whole time.
 
krupted said:
it makes me think that ripping real dvd9 movies (i dont have any!) would result in an extremely good result, and likely be hard to tell apart from a bluray rip.
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this is where i fucked up. turning a dvd into a higher resolution rip of course wont make it bluray like. the added resolution might help a little but im not sure why i put it like that. i am stupid:(
 
IDversusEGO said:
and you are hypothesize that DVDfab has what...a line doubler or some video scaling built in .... etc.
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The problem is is that DVDfab doesn't do anything like that. All it does is rip the DVD, if you have it set to "DVD5" then it will rip the DVD and compress it slightly to fit a DVD5 disc.

Krupt, I'm sure you have plently of DVD9 movies around, most Hollywood movies are. If you meant burnable discs then that's different. Either way, DVD5 or DVD9 does nothing to increase the video quality, at all.

What I would think is happening is that you're using some 700mb Xvid or such encoded video and turning it into something like an h264 MKV file instead. You're not adding anything to the process to add any kind of extra quality. What you are doing is using a different, possibly better and more efficient video codec.

What it comes down to is what codecs you have installed.

krupted said:
yeah. got it. this is why people dont stick around hardforums for too long. i couldnt imagine finding 4 people on these forums i would actually want to hang out and have a beer with....
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That's weird. I can think of many, many people here I'd love to grab a beer with. That sounds more like a personal problem Krupted....
 
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krupted said:
yeah. got it. this is why people dont stick around hardforums for too long. i couldnt imagine finding 4 people on these forums i would actually want to hang out and have a beer with....
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CrimandEvil said:
That's weird. I can think of many, many people here I'd love to grab a beer with. That sounds more like a personal problem Krupted....
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I think a lot of that has to do with how easy it is to take stuff the wrong way. Like my comment...I was trying to be funny, apparently didnt succeed. Whatever...I take it all with a grain of salt and move on.
 
IDversusEGO said:
I think a lot of that has to do with how easy it is to take stuff the wrong way. Like my comment...I was trying to be funny, apparently didnt succeed. Whatever...I take it all with a grain of salt and move on.
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the 'make up your mind' comment? if that was joshin me, it went right over my head and i apologize.

crim- it was a 700mb avi file turned into mkv, which then that mkv was turned into dvd5 (i know, those are actual formats but i know you know what i mean). this is exactly what i said, the problem was i kept on talking and said something stupid after that and apparently that was the focus instead of what i thought we were talking about.

but in any case, the result is, the original avi file looks worse then the dvd5. im not saying its a big difference, its just the changing resolutions that inherently smooth things out i guess. its obvious when text comes on the screen, or you look at telephone wires.... its like AA was turned on.
 
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