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CANiSLAYu

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Would it be worth it to sell my Canon EF 28-135mm IS USM w/ hood and 72mm Hoya Super HMC UV filter and buy a Tamron AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di or Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8 EX DF? Money is not an issue (I'd make like $50-70) and the extra range isn't that much of a concern since I have a Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO Zoom Macro Super II to regain the 71-135mm range (and I plan to move to a 70-200 f/2.8L when I have the scratch sometime down the road). So basically it comes down to: would there be enough of an image quality increase and is the constant f/2.8 worth the hassle of selling my current lens? TIA.
 
neah, I'd keep the lens that you have.

I had that Tamron lens and I kept on getting an "err 99" message on my 10D.
 
hey i get that error 99 message with my 10D and the only lens i ahve is a tamron. mebe that is why. i was goin nuts wondering what it is : D. and canislayu i would keep the one u have and save the $ for the 70-200.
 
Originally posted by Hooker
save the $ for the 70-200.
That's not an issue because like I said in the original post I'd sell my 28-135 before buying so I'd actually make money overall. I just want the one that has better IQ. Wonder if I can borrow one from somewhere... hehe.
 
IMHO better go and try it first @ your local store. Most bigger local stores have good selection on pro lenses.
After trying sigma, tamron, and canon - I'd say go with Canon if money is no issue at all. Better overall quality.

In my area, I have a local store that will pricematch BHphotovideo so it's all good for me.
From What i found from searching and reading others suggestions, equipment list you want for all your need is:
canon 17-40 F4 L or if you have money to splurge the 16-35 F2.8L
Canon 70-200mm F2.8 L
Canon 300mm F4 IS or 400mm DO for people with fat wallet.
Plus 1.4x TC
 
the perfect lens' for me would be

17-40mm f/4L USM
28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM
70-200mm f/4.0L USM
2x Tele Convertor

this would give me all ranges from 17-400. :)

and if i stacked tele convertors, even more :)
 
Guys, if I had the money for L glass right now I wouldn't even be pondering this situation ;)
 
can we see some unedited pictures that you have taken using the 28-135.


i repeat, unedited. this will help us make a clear decision :p
 
Unless someone here has one of the lenses I'm contemplating I don't see how it could be of much use, hehe, but here you go. Too lazy to dig up my backups of any good pictures, but here are a few I have readily available:

Tidepools001.JPG


Golfing032.JPG


BalboaPark025.JPG
 
Well if you can better save up a bit more for the L lense or try to look for second hand ones from Keh.

I've read so many people been having some many err99 problems due to the use of thrid party lenses - so just for safety investment reason - go with Canon.

Eventhough, I, myself dont have any problem with my sigma macro 105mmEX with mydrebel so far.

If you buy ur sigma/tamron/tokina lenses locally - it's much easier to deal with if something were to happen like that dreaded err99 problem. You can just simply come back to the store and ask for an exhange or something. If you buy online - it will be a pain especially if you are doing this professionally. You'll lose time and money.
 
I plan on saving up for L no matter what, but thing about if I get one of these lenses I can have it now without spending any more money, hehe. I planned to at least check and see if the stores around here have them in stock to see how they perform. If they have them hopefully they'll be priced closely to the online competition. If no stores nearby have either of them I'll probably just forget I ever read about them.
 
i really dont think theres anything wrong with the image quality of the lens you have now, it also has quiet a good range.


if i was you, i would keep it and save cash so you can have an L lens AS WELL as the 28-135.
 
Originally posted by -expl0de-
i really dont think theres anything wrong with the image quality of the lens you have now, it also has quiet a good range.


if i was you, i would keep it and save cash so you can have an L lens AS WELL as the 28-135.
Well, in any case down the road I think I'll be selling this lens because I plan on having a 24-70 2.8L and 70-200 2.8L so there'd really be no point to keep the 28-135 IS besides having to change lenses a little less frequently.

My thinking was that if I essentially trade the 28-135 IS for one of the cheaper 28-70 (or 75 in the Tamron's case) then having the 70-200 2.8L be my next purchase so I'd have 28-200mm with a constant f/2.8 and good IQ and that would make me be in less of a hurry to get the 24-70 2.8L. Of course I'd only want to do this though if the cheap f/2.8 lenses are better than the 28-135 IS. Sounds like most people are against it though so I guess I'll just stand pat for now (unless of course I get to try 'em out and am impressed ;))
 
I haven't really read into each of the posts, but why do you want to part with the 28-135 IS? Its the top of the line (other then L) basic zoom lens. I mean its worth a pretty penny here in la Canada. I bought the 28-105 USM insted because its more then half the price (plus I got 177 bux off when I got it with my Elan).

The tamron, and other lenses are no where near as good as that lens.

Cheers,
 
would there be enough of an image quality increase and is the constant f/2.8 worth the hassle of selling my current lens? TIA.

No. Image quality degrades with larger apatures. Smaller apatures always produce sharper images. Its a combination of Shutter speed and Apature size. It also effects the depth of field, and all you would get is a faster hand hold anyway. Its a half an f-stop from the wide angle, and 2.5 stops from the telephoto. I would say from my limited knowledge, and experience, that what you would gain from the extra stops doesn't out weigh the quality of that lens. Only one lens that I can see comes close to being good enough to replace it. Its the 24-70 f/2.8L zoom. tamron, and Sigma lenses are good for people that don't have money. If you need a faster lens, get the 50mm 1.8.

Ok that answers your first part. But after some review, and one statement I didn't consider
extra range isn't that much of a concern since I have a Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO Zoom Macro Super II to regain the 71-135mm range
so I would say if you really want the consistant apature, and the faster lens, you are going to trade off 1 element, gain 10inches of min focusing distance, and gain about 120g in weight oh and its a 77mm front element screw. thats pretty big. Just remember that image quality improves with a smaller apature. (*actually its a combination of shutter and apature).

I hope that gives you some clear help.

Cheers,
 
Well, after calling around one of my local stores stocks the Tamron for $340 ($320 at B&H) so that's not too bad. Their policy is that you can rent the lens and if you decide to purchase it within a month of renting it, they will put the amount you spent renting it towards the total price. So I guess if I have some time this weekend or next week I'll be able to do some real world testing and see which I like better :)
 
canislayu since u live in san diego, what are some good photography stores, cause so far i have only gotten my stuff online, with the exeption of this place called oceanside photo & Telescope, but i wnat to know about other places.
 
Originally posted by CANiSLAYu
Well, after calling around one of my local stores stocks the Tamron for $340 ($320 at B&H) so that's not too bad. Their policy is that you can rent the lens and if you decide to purchase it within a month of renting it, they will put the amount you spent renting it towards the total price. So I guess if I have some time this weekend or next week I'll be able to do some real world testing and see which I like better :)

It's much better to do it that way whenever you purchase your lens.
 
Originally posted by Hooker
canislayu since u live in san diego, what are some good photography stores, cause so far i have only gotten my stuff online, with the exeption of this place called oceanside photo & Telescope, but i wnat to know about other places.
I quickly learned after getting my 300D that the the west coast sucks for camera gear, hehe. But here is a list of stores. I've heard that Bob's Camera and Nelson Photo are the best, but I haven't been to either. The only 2 decent shops I've been to are George's Camera and North County Camera. George's looked like it had a nice selection, but I didn't check prices because I was in a hurry because I was just going to buy some Eclipse and PEC*PADs (parked in a red). NCC is huge and everyone's really nice, but the prices were up there.
 
coo thanks, now i can go check out those two lenses i want to get before i actually get em : D
 
For the west coast, the best camera shop by far is Canoga Camera, www.canogacamera.com sometimes they have better prices than b&h and their service is top notch and they are friendly unlike b&h
 
ya thanks bucket, i know about that place ;] but i was wanting to know where actual walk-in stores are, not online stores and since canislayu lives in san diego like me, he can tell about some. but thanks for the input anyway :D
 
Originally posted by Hooker
ya thanks bucket, i know about that place ;] but i was wanting to know where actual walk-in stores are, not online stores and since canislayu lives in san diego like me, he can tell about some. but thanks for the input anyway :D

Its a big store in Canoga Park LA
 
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