Good gaming headset with mic?

Discussion in 'Computer Audio' started by cyclone3d, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    11,802
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    My old Creative Fatal1ty gaming headset is probably going to bite the big one pretty soon. The other day it fell about 8 inches and one of the earpieces broke clean off. I have glued and reinforced it, but I am not expecting it to hold for very long.

    I noticed the other side is almost broken as well. I am going to fix it as well, but I would like to get some recommendations before the whole thing finally self destructs.

    I do have some more hifi oriented cans for when I am not playing multiplayer/chatting but I would like something that will last and has pretty good sound. The less plastic the better.

    I do not want a USB headset, I will use my SB ZxR thank you very much.
     
  2. GotNoRice

    GotNoRice [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    10,170
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2001
    Why not just use a desktop microphone in combination with one of your good headphones? You probably even already have a USB Webcam or something along those lines that you could use as a microphone if nothing else.

    Sounds like dedicated headphones + dedicated unrelated microphone would be exactly what you need and would meet all of your goals. Why compromise on your headphones/headset just so you can have a cheap plastic microphone attached?
     
    kalston, tungt88 and IdiotInCharge like this.
  3. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    11,802
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    Well, any recommendation for good mics that can keep background noise to a minimum? Maybe something I can attach to my good headphones?

    Only dedicated mics I've ever used were utter crap.
     
  4. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge Not the Idiot YOU are Looking for

    Messages:
    4,270
    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2003
    Probably doesn't get any better than the Antlion ModMic 5, as any desktop solution (like my Blue Snowball) will pick up keypresses and the like.
     
  5. illram

    illram [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,235
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2011
    Sennheiser G4me One? Well reviewed, good audio + mic quality, analog (no USB), about $150. Open and not closed which is rare in a "gaming" headset.
     
  6. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    11,802
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    That looks like it might just work. Not sure exactly how I would mount them to my Pioneer SE505 cans though. Maybe remove the sketchy volume/tone controls like I have been wanting to. However I would still need another set as most cards don't have enough power (laptop) to power these and I probably don't want to be carting them around.

    How is that as far as hearing ambient noise? They are an open design so I am guessing that they let pretty much everything in and out for that matter.
    How do they hold up? They look sturdier than my current Creative set.
     
  7. illram

    illram [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,235
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2011
    I personally don't own them but I do own a few Sennheiser open headphones and they do let in ambient noise, and people will hear what you are listening to as well. Not recommended if you need good isolation. I prefer the sound of open headphones so it is worth it for me, in environments where I can control for that. As far as build quality Sennheiser usually makes pretty good stuff.
     
  8. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    11,802
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    Well, the Sennheiser Zero may be a better fit for me even though the sound stage is said to be smaller. Fine with me, and I will keep an eye out for a good price. They are also foldable and that is another plus for me.
     
  9. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge Not the Idiot YOU are Looking for

    Messages:
    4,270
    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2003
    Wanting isolation means getting closed...

    And the perennial challenge of trying to get a wider soundstage with closed cans, or decent bass with open cans remains...
     
    RogueTadhg likes this.
  10. atarione

    atarione [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,740
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2011
    the snake likes this.
  11. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    11,802
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    Which is why I am super indecisive as far as what I want to get.

    The Pioneer SE-505 cans I have are super excellent compared to all other headphone I have had in the past. 2-way speaker setup in them is nice as well. Bass is just about right and the highs are there unlike other newer headphone I have used. Supposed to be an even better set once the volume/tone controls are removed. In fact, I just had to go watch(listen) to some music vids on youtube because I like them that much.

    The only thing I don't like about them is that they become somewhat uncomfortable after wearing them for 2-3 hours.

    In any case, I ordered a used pair of Sennheiser HD598. I'll probably just do something like atarione said and mount the mic from my old Creative headset to them as it works just fine.
     
    IdiotInCharge likes this.
  12. owcraftsman

    owcraftsman Gawd

    Messages:
    659
    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Aforementioned esoteric options aside which I have tried the HyperX Cloud II is a great option which only the most discerning ears can differentiate between and adds tremendous versatility.
     
  13. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    11,802
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    And it is a USB soundcard with attached headphones.

    Not sure if part of you reply was sarcastic or not....

    I'm not an "audiophile" per se.. as in I refuse to spend ludicrous amounts of money on sound equipment. I pretty much will not even spend new prices on audio equipment. Most of my stuff is thrift store finds or crazy low priced eBay finds. I just don't like poor quality equipment.

    You can call me Scrooge Mc-Audiophile :D
     
  14. owcraftsman

    owcraftsman Gawd

    Messages:
    659
    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    A bit sarcastic only because I've seen hundreds of threads just like this where the replies come back the same almost every time.
    I was only offering practical advice in light of that fact.
    In my mind paying nearly double for a headset and then plunking down another 70 bucks for a mic for not that much better performance is just not worth it.
    Maybe I should have said bang for the buck.
    Yes the HyperX Cloud II can be used with USB but that's only needed for 7.1 audio otherwise it comes with adapters so it can be used with mobo onboard sound, aftermarket sound card (amped up or not), PS4. Xbox and your smart phone if it has a jack.
     
  15. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    11,802
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    Gotcha. I'm planning on using the mic from my old headset so that won't cost me anything more. Just have to figure out how to mount it up is all.

    I really didn't like the thought of buying a $70 mic that really would not be much better for my purposes.
     
    IdiotInCharge likes this.
  16. illram

    illram [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,235
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2011
    I love my 598's. You can call it a day with those for headphones period if you want, they're great. I say that as someone who owns about $5,000 in headphones and related equipment including the HD800S. Good choice.

    For what it's worth I tried on the Game One's and Zero's today and they feel very premium. I did not feel like the Game Zero's were as open as the 598's and thus would be decent if you wanted some isolation.
     
  17. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    11,802
    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2004
    The headphones came today. The pair I purchased was $60 shipped in as-is condition that said only one side worked. I figured it was a bad connection.

    When I first tried them both sides worked great and then after a while, the right side just stopped.

    Did some testing and found out that the voice coil on the right driver was not getting a connection to the little circuit board.

    Now, here is my big pet peeve... I am guessing this is industry standard or something, but the voice coil wire is not soldered to the little circuit board that the normal wires are soldered to. Instead they just put a dab of glue after placing the wire in place and expect it to somehow keep a good connection.

    I ended up melting the glue off with my soldering iron, breaking the voice coil wire a bit on accident and then jumpering it to the little circuit board with a stripped wire I soldered to the circuit board and then to the voice coil wire.

    After that I sealed it with liquid electrical tape like it had before (not the same glue that was supposed to hold the wire to the circuit board).

    Now it works great, but I am really kind of put-off by them trying to use glue in the first place instead of soldering.

    I am betting that pretty much every single driver that stops working is because of this horrible mfg decision.

    /rant

    In any case, I really like how they sound and my observations compared to my Pioneer SE-505 set is this:

    Maybe a bit stronger bass.
    Higher frequency response
    Sound stage may be a little big bigger. I switched back and forth a bunch of times and really had a hard time telling for sure.
    Take less power to drive.

    Way, way, way lighter.

    Now I just have to figure out a way to use the mic from my old headset. Maybe I will hack apart my old headset and use the plug and mount for the mic from it.
     
  18. atarione

    atarione [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,740
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2011
    i **guess /think.. they would tell you they use the glue method because the VC would be sensitive to the heat from soldering them
     
  19. illram

    illram [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,235
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2011
    If you are feeling lazy cyclone3d there are numerous mic cables for the HD598 that you can purchase on Amazon for between $8-$15.
     
  20. cageymaru

    cageymaru [H]ard|News

    Messages:
    16,355
    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2003
  21. illram

    illram [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,235
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2011
    I heard those headphones have good timber.
     
    atarione and cageymaru like this.
  22. atarione

    atarione [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,740
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2011
    they spruce (get it spruce??) up the wood work on those and audiophiles may pay big bucks for that...
     
    cageymaru likes this.