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Looking at just a gpu for now. I have seen two 3060s on FB Marketplace for $220 and $150. Seems like reasonable prices but I don't know if I trust buying off Marketplace. As for upgrading cpu, I may look into a new build sometime next year. I used to be a die hard AMD guy but switched to Intel for their onboard graphics since I don't game at all.
Check the board manufacturer's web site and see if there's a BIOS update to add it. The hardware requirements for resizeable bar go way back, so it's just a matter of whether your board vendor bothered adding it to a BIOS update. Resizeable bar got going with the RX 6000 series & Zen 3 launches in late 2020. Shortly thereafter it was added to lots of Intel boards and NV Ampere cards. I flashed my mainboard and my 3090 to add support for it. 9700k was last year's model at that point, so the boards that go with it were new enough at the time that they likely got an update.
That could be an issue. The AsRock Steel Legend B580 card I have is huge, like the size of my 3090, and it wants 2x 8-pin connectors. The 2-fan models are quite a bit smaller though, and "standard" B580s only need one 8-pin power connector.
You are correct. My psu has two 6+2 pin connectors. Thanks for all the replies. I'm gonna take a look at Best Buy for some open box deals. If not, I seen some used 3060s for sale locally.
Do you know the total wattage? Brand/Model etc? Im assuming this is custom built in which case you should prolly be okay. While not really common there were a handful of pre-builds (or even something as yucky as a dell, hp lenovo etc) that could have had a 960 w/ a proprietary PSU. Like I said not really likely, but possible? A full system/part list would make it easier for suggestions.
Thats a good point, but short time budget might play into effect, Ie the whole concept of a loan/cc etc. Pay a little now and a little later, end up paying more over the years but less of an impact to some people. Researching/building/upgrading PC's is fun (and way easier than most non-geeks think) but prebuilds ie say the ibuypower type things when they are on sale you simply cant part-for part out the same systems for less money.
Cool. Thanks. I think a 3060 is my sweet spot right now. I could always put that into my pc if a good deal on something newer comes out.
If you find a 4060 new for $250 with retail return and a full warranty then the difference makes more sense.
I was like whuuuut?
I saw one for $180 and still thought it wasn't good enough. No matter what the market is selling it for that's a $150 card max even then I wouldn't bother with it not worth it imo. Just wait be patient save up another hundred and get a higher tier up it will be more pleasurable in the long run.
Thanks. I have seen a few 3060s on FB marketplace for $250ish but I felt that was too much. Are any of these good deals- $250 for a 4060, $160 for an A580, or a 6600xt for $220(I plan to offer him $170).
Ahh, ok. I should be looking for the "B" 580. Got it. Thanks again for all the info everyone!
No, all the RTX 4000 series cards are a newer architecture than the 3000 series models. The "problem" is NV reduced the width of the mem bus and added a bunch of cache memory between the 3000 and 4000 series cards, which sometimes shows up as a regression due to lower memory bandwidth. AMD did the same thing between the RX 5000 and 6000, so AMD did it first. The 3060Ti->4060Ti mem bus difference is particularly bad since it was 2 notches, 256-bit to 128-bit. All the AMD cards and the rest of the NV cards were just a one notch change, so 320->256, 256->192, 192->128, etc.
I wouldn't unless he has resizable bar on that i7-9700 platform which I'd guess is a no. Arc cards really need that feature.
Good chance it can be added with a BIOS update. The hardware requirements for rebar have been part of the PCI-e spec forever, and a lot of recentish boards got updates in late 2020 or 2021. An i7-9700 box wouldn't have had it out of the box, but there's a good chance the board vendor released an update to add it. When rebar hit 10th gen was current and 9th gen was last year, so still well supported. Just as an example, Asus added resizable bar support to their ROG Strix H370-I boards on 4/19/2021.
That's cool that older platforms are getting updates. OP should check though to be sure. Why just the "get a B580" is not necessarily the best advice here.
Older platforms didn't get updates, but the relevant time frame for "older" is late 2020. The whole rebar thing hit when AMD launched the 6000 series and Zen 3. At that point in time 9th gen Intel and Zen 2 were recent, just one generation back from current. A lot of those got updates. It wasn't just mainboards that got updates either. I got a firmware update for my 3090 to add rebar support.