Yeah I know n00b...I've never run this before as Ive only had a 4400 and just stuck with 01, just did a fresh install of windows because my agp drivers were screwed. I'm guessing its my ram mostly thats holding me back from getting i nthe 12k range where I see a lot of people. Anyhow all default settings, 1024x768 etc. 2800+@3200+(200mhzx11), asus a7n8x dlx, 2x512mb corsair ddr333 xms 2-2-2-5, leadtek 6800gt@400/1100 in 3d mode. I used the winfox utility to set the 3d clocks higher. Get a score of 11,356. This is after a reboot, first thing I run, regular stuff running in background like nav, spybot, asus probe. Thanks, sorry for making useless post.