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Is it a good upgrade to go from my note 3 to the note 5?

I cant seem to justify it but maybe you can.
 
It's definitely a significant upgrade all around, but if you're still happy with your Note 3, then keep on truckin with it. ;)
 
Tyler-Durden said:
Just do it! Note 5 is the best phone of 2015. That's from an iPhone disciple.
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Not that it isn't a great phone for the year, but I think that even the critics are near unanimous on that the Nexus 6P is the best Android phone this year. Just saying.
 
CHANG3D said:
Not that it isn't a great phone for the year, but I think that even the critics are near unanimous on that the Nexus 6P is the best Android phone this year. Just saying.
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It's definitely a toss up. I was listening to the Droid Life podcast while driving the other day and they weren't sure they would give the 6P phone of the year or not. The 6P is just as fast or faster in real world performance (while the Note5 benches much faster), but Samsung's UI makes much better use of the phablet form factor with its Note features, while adding some notable extras like wireless charging, Samsung Pay, slightly better camera, and the internal NAND is still considerably faster with UFS 2.0 vs eMMC in the 6P. But as always you get stock Android and guaranteed/fast updates on the Nexus for the next 2 years minimum.

So it's pretty much down to preference now. Personally I would rather have the 6P though, as I don't care about wireless charging or camera performance really and much prefer the software flexibility (rooting/ROMing) of the Nexus over any other features. Note5 on Verizon/AT&T is completely locked down, so I won't even consider it, I don't think it has even been rooted.
 
Note 5 can be rooted and ROMed on T-Mobile. Mine is. ;)

Critics can have the Nexus 6P. I'll take the Note 5.
 
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The problem with TouchWiz is not only it still slightly lags, but it's multitasking support is horrible despite having that amount of RAM. Like what's the point of having that kind of RAM if you're just going to kill all but 6(?) tasks, just like when you only had half that amount of RAM. So I'd take the Nexus 6P, which does have a good camera, over the Note 5, especially when you look at the prices.

I also have to use a secure device, so having frequent security updates is absolutely necessary. I know Samsung had promised security updates every 15 days, but where is that exactly?
 
Lol, wasn't being touchy. But when I specify the Verizon/AT&T model, one should infer that this doesn't apply to the other variants of the phone. I'm on Verizon and OP may be on either of those two carriers as well, so it was worth mentioning if that is a concern of his.

You assuming I'm being touchy is ironic since you're the one being touchy about it. :p
 
Holy cow excrement, my bad!!!! :eek::eek::eek:

That's what I get for not paying attention to what I'm copying/pasting between 3 twitter feeds and [H] while on my phone at the dentist.

My apologies, guys! :eek:
 
tangoseal said:
Is it a good upgrade to go from my note 3 to the note 5?

I cant seem to justify it but maybe you can.
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Well your going from a 32 bit processor to a 64 bit and a large speed increase battery decrease though but you get Quick charging No IR No Micro SD No removeable battery though...But the note 5 is going to get android M after samsung finishes bolting touch wiz to it.

IR if you use it i do use mine can be fixed on the cheap either a OTG or 3.5mm jack dongle will give that function back

No SD and no change able battery though is no es bueno i suppose i could live with a 128GB model though that is more than my note 3 has total. (32+64 for anyone who wanted to know)

I suppose most people only hang onto the phone for 2 or so years anyway but i recently replaced my Note 3's battery with a new on and my screen on time doubled from 3 hours to 6 and that is just on the first charge cycle. If i were to need to do this with a note 5 it would require me to pry apart the glass phone and replace what should be a user replaceable part...

That said i am looking at a used note 4 or going to the moto x pure. Note 4 has everything the note 3 does a slight processor bump the pulse sensor and ir and Quick charge but... it will not be upgraded past L nor will its boot loader get unlocked so your kinda cemented into touchwiz with the only exception being if you get your hands on a dev device then you can unlock the boot loader and load whatever is the latest rom for it but you will run into compatibility and other issues...

The biggest thing i think ill miss is my s-pen i don't use it too often that is why i think ill get over it but it was nice to use on occasion...


Tldr
32 bit to 64 bit with more cores and a speed increase for the soc
minus features (IR blaster, removeable battery, sd card support.)
Will get latest version of android.
Jump the samsung wagon go elsewhere they screwed the pooch
Ill miss my s-pen...
 
Tyler-Durden said:
Note 5 can be rooted and ROMed on T-Mobile. Mine is. ;)

Critics can have the Nexus 6P. I'll take the Note 5.
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And then either have to deal with Touchwiz ROMs, or buggy AOSP ROMs that are buggy because Samsung are a sack of dicks with their drivers.

Oh yea, and in rooting and ROMing all your warranty is gone.
 
Skripka said:
Oh yea, and in rooting and ROMing all your warranty is gone.
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In theory.. in reality though not so much. I've warrantied my old Note 2 and M8 (twice) after unlocking the bootloader with no issues. I've never heard of anyone getting denied for it either, so it doesn't seem like something any OEM really enforces. Probably because most of us go through our carriers and not the OEM too and carriers don't check for it at all.
 
T4rd said:
In theory.. in reality though not so much. I've warrantied my old Note 2 and M8 (twice) after unlocking the bootloader with no issues. I've never heard of anyone getting denied for it either, so it doesn't seem like something any OEM really enforces. Probably because most of us go through our carriers and not the OEM too and carriers don't check for it at all.
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Note 2 didn't have a hardware Knox chip that permanently flips, conversely Note 3 and onward do...so yea. Completely. Different. Animal.
 
Skripka said:
Note 2 didn't have a hardware Knox chip that permanently flips, conversely Note 3 and onward do...so yea. Completely. Different. Animal.
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Not sure what difference it would have made to Verizon. I've still seen people on tech blogs mention RMAing newer Samsung phones after tripping the Knox with no issues. A quick Google gave me this thread as well that shows lots of people warrantying their phones with the Knox counter tripped. So I've yet to see anyone actually be denied a claim after sending their phone back, only told that they couldn't if they asked beforehand. I'm sure you can find some out there that have been denied, but it doesn't seem common still.
 
Skripka said:
Note 2 didn't have a hardware Knox chip that permanently flips, conversely Note 3 and onward do...so yea. Completely. Different. Animal.
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It is the same case with the note 3 you can only rom if there is a working exploit and then the roms are all based off modified versions of stock software.

What it boils down to is if given a choice stay on my note 3 or go to a note 5 if it was free and the 128gb I might go for it if I can root it and there is some roms for it.

As it stands now im looking at a moto x pure if samsung brings back the micro sd and opens the bootloader in the same way sony and moto have it I might go for a samsung device in the future.
 
Skripka said:
And then either have to deal with Touchwiz ROMs, or buggy AOSP ROMs that are buggy because Samsung are a sack of dicks with their drivers.

Oh yea, and in rooting and ROMing all your warranty is gone.
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My Note 5 runs beautifully on Darthstalker 2.0 ROM. Gets as good battery life as my iPhone 6+, too. By the time the 1-year warranty is up I'll be ready to JUMP to the Note 6, if it's as good as the 5. T-Mo has no issue with upgrading a rooted Android, which will be back to stock by the time I'm ready. Already exchanged it once when the S-Pen failed.

But, thanks anyway.
 
This really sucked. My Note 5 died yesterday. It got real hot, restarted itself and I got a black screen, one dead Note 5. Neither magic button combinations nor a trip to the AT&T Service Center today could revive it. I wasn't given any trouble by the service center and another Note 5 will be at my house in a few days. Not sure if being able to pull then reinsert the battery would have made a difference. :(
 
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