GN is delidding the new Ryzen APUs

Discussion in 'AMD Processors' started by pendragon1, Feb 14, 2018 at 12:47 AM.

  1. pendragon1

    pendragon1 [H]ardness Supreme

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    That video made me cringe because of the potential pin damage. I'm at work and can't hear the audio, so maybe he covered that.
    It might be better to get a cheap AM4 board and try to work on it while locked down in the socket.
     
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    or just not doing it at all given the IHS design it's damn near metal to metal contact.. you're going to get what 1-2C better cooling on a processor that already runs 65c full load with the stock cooler? after all this is ryzen, you're not overclock limited by temps but instead limited by the architecture.
     
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    umm 10-13C isnt to shabby
    the charts are confusing in this vid so watch it dont just pause and look.

     
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    When I watched this my first thought was how well AMD implements the heatspreader contact with the die. That raised area, the size of the die, makes excellent, gap free contact. I wouldn't bother de-lidding. Intel should do it this way.
     
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    While that would be nice, Intel simply doesn't have to. It's CPUs can reach speeds which are greater than AMDs using existing thermal interface materials.
     
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    I'm referring to superior heat dissipation.
     
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    Overclocks aren't limited by architecture. Even assuming you really mean microarchitecture, Zen is not limited to 4GHz clocks. It is all process node. AMD isn't using 14HP (HP = High Performance). Zen would be able to get 5GHz on 14HP node.
     
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    I realize what you are referring to and I don't disagree with what you said on any technical level. My point is that Intel is still leading on IPC and clock speed. It doesn't give a shit if it could get 20% better heat dissipation going with solder over the TIM they use now. The fact of the matter is, it was a cost cutting decision and it's good enough as far as Intel is concerned.
     
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    can we not make this another intel vs amd thread...
     
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    I only meant to point out that I was impressed with AMD's Heat Spreader/Tim implementation, not AMD vs. Intel IPC
     
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    what are you, some kinda hippie!?

    the great Red versus Blue battle is the lifeblood of our great people!
     
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    pendragon1 [H]ardness Supreme

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    lol kinda. ive been told by my rasta friends in jamaica that im more rasta than half of them :)
     
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